Adjusting pvp healing, time to make lingering wounds curable?

[Seether]

Lingering wounds is currently one of the strongest abilities in group pvp and many people have been asking for it to be nerfed. In 1.3 I feel that this ability has been one of the few balances against the strength of healing in group pvp. However, with the proposed changes to healing in PvP I think that this ability my be tipping a bit too far into the overpowered territory since it can not be cured.

[Vocalhealspam]

The answer to the PvP healing nerfs is to simply run DPS builds instead.

[Sez]

Rogues heal debuff is getting buffed. Get ready for a major Meta-game change.

[Corian]

Well, the PvP healing nerfs seem to be targeting insta-cast or over-time-based healing, I guess for its effectiveness considering its ease of application.

If that's the case, lingering wounds applies passively. It doesn't even require its own GCD, and can be applied--reliably--to quite a number of targets using certain specs. Nothing could be easier.

So here's some alternate solutions:

1. Lingering Wounds remains as is in 1.3, and healing remains as it is in 1.3. Rogues won't like this one, but I think everyone else would be okay with it.

2. Proposed 1.4 healing nerfs are implemented; Lingering Wounds can now only be applied by single target abilities. Let's be honest, most of those meatheads won't even know the difference. :P

3. Proposed 1.4 healing nerfs are implemented; Lingering Wounds is now a poison-based effect. Clerics and mages are super happy, warriors probably a bit less so.

4. Add in skills that remove bleed (red box) debuffs. I don't see this happening.

I vote for 2, btw.

[Arrick]

You do realize they are only nerfing INSTANT heals, not ALL Heals?



LW's is fine, L2P.

[Krazybojangles]

You do realize they are only nerfing INSTANT heals, not ALL Heals?



LW's is fine, L2P.

Only heals a Chloro has is instant it's not fine.

[Sarathor]

Thank God my rogue is level 45, since I'm switching to him. My mage will be for PvE only.

[VirusDancer]

You do realize they are only nerfing INSTANT heals, not ALL Heals?

LW's is fine, L2P.

So you need LW to kill a Druid using Balm?

[VirusDancer]

Also, are they not buffing Coda of Restoration? Which is, you know - an INSTANT?

Yeah, it makes no sense...

[Shinigam1]

If that's the case, lingering wounds applies passively. It doesn't even require its own GCD, and can be applied--reliably--to quite a number of targets using certain specs. Nothing could be easier.

No, it is not a separate GCD. No, we don't apply it when we feel like it, it happens when you crit. Which for lower geared and many builds means it's far less likely than fel blades (20%, my riftblade/paladin solo build has 6% crit chance).

Everyone is suddenly hating LW I suspect because they're suddenly seeing it everywhere. 44 paragon/22champ is the fotm. The 44 pointer gives 3 guaranteed followup crits and 17 champ gives LW. Nothing about LW is any different.

[Nightwish]

Also, are they not buffing Coda of Restoration? Which is, you know - an INSTANT?

Yeah, it makes no sense...

It's not an instant as it requires combo points, it's a finisher.

- Vybz

[VirusDancer]

It's not an instant as it requires combo points, it's a finisher.

- Vybz

Doctrines require Convictions.
Glory requires being crit.
Soul Purge requires building charge.

[Puzzlebox]

No, it is not a separate GCD. No, we don't apply it when we feel like it, it happens when you crit. Which for lower geared and many builds means it's far less likely than fel blades (20%, my riftblade/paladin solo build has 6% crit chance).

Everyone is suddenly hating LW I suspect because they're suddenly seeing it everywhere. 44 paragon/22champ is the fotm. The 44 pointer gives 3 guaranteed followup crits and 17 champ gives LW. Nothing about LW is any different.

It was just as prevalent in 1.2 when 2H warriors were charging + proper timing + bladefury.

But people were too busy *****ing about Pyros to notice.

[Nightwish]

Doctrines require Convictions.
Glory requires being crit.
Soul Purge requires building charge.

So I looked up all these abilities and they're all better than Coda Resto hands down. They seem to be easier to achieve/activate than standing in place and building up 5 combo points while being focus fired. Notice all the healing changes were done to classes that are able to main heal. That 533 Coda Resto every 5 combo points is really going to keep that Bard alive.

- Vybz

[Krazer]

Players sure can't handle changes to the meta...