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    Default Activision/Blizzard Accounts. You now have the facts.

    Came over this very interesting well researched article about subscriptions for WOW, for those saying 12Million ect have a read through this.

    However there are some big words and calculations, might need to ask an adult for help.

    Enjoy.

    http://daeity.blogspot.com/2010/08/b...n-numbers.html

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    I've been saying it for awhile. The numbers don't add up.
    When you look at how many copies of WotLK sold... it was not anywhere in the ballpark of the 11 million subscriptions they claimed at the time.

    Now, Cataclysm is here, and has not sold *HALF* of the 12 million they claim, yet they finally got Warcraft running in China again (that should have added 3-4 million easily), and they claim 12 million now?
    Either they have lost roughly 1/3 of the subscribers they had before... or they are blatantly lying... or a combination of the two.

    The whole "12 million" claim is just irrational when you *GLANCE* at actual facts.

    Good link. Interesting read. Not surprising, and I am sure fanboys and fangirls will be like rabid dogs to try and pick it apart.
    When in doubt, just look at the expansion sales. How many people will pay $15 a month and *NOT* get the expansion for level cap and content? Yeah... not too many.
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    Hey, good read

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    Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this would be Rift related.

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    Very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urtha View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this would be Rift related.
    It is, kind of Rift related.
    This shows Trion we hold people accountable. Don't lie to us, we aren't stupid.

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    There is actually a simple way less complicated answer.

    7-8 million out of those 12 million are Chinese/Asian. They do not buy the game or the expansions they get the client fore FREE. And they pay hourly rates. Blizzard counts them as active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharuko View Post
    There is actually a simple way less complicated answer.

    7-8 million out of those 12 million are Chinese/Asian. They do not buy the game or the expansions they get the client fore FREE. And they pay hourly rates. Blizzard counts them as active.
    Then how did Blizzard claim 11 million subscribers when the Chinese *DID NOT HAVE* WoW available?
    When WotLK hit in the US/EU, and they claimed 11 million subscribers active... the Chinese *DID NOT HAVE WoW*.

    The numbers... don't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urtha View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this would be Rift related.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Urtha View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this would be Rift related.
    Ya know, I was thinking the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D_B View Post
    Then how did Blizzard claim 11 million subscribers when the Chinese *DID NOT HAVE* WoW available?
    When WotLK hit in the US/EU, and they claimed 11 million subscribers active... the Chinese *DID NOT HAVE WoW*.

    The numbers... don't make sense.

    WotLK came out in 2008. That's when Blizzard released the 11.5 million number.

    Chinese WoW went offline in 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D_B View Post
    Then how did Blizzard claim 11 million subscribers when the Chinese *DID NOT HAVE* WoW available?
    When WotLK hit in the US/EU, and they claimed 11 million subscribers active... the Chinese *DID NOT HAVE WoW*.

    The numbers... don't make sense.
    I've been saying this for some time: wow is not as big as the public thinks it is..

    You don't need to complicate things and calculate the supscriptions based on earnings..
    Just look at sales figures..

    4.7 mil copies of cataclysm sold in 30 days from the launch and that's a record..
    If you didn't get an EXPANSION 30 days into its launch you are bellow "casual"

    And add ppl like me who quit after 2.5 years non stop sub and 5 years total.
    And ppl like my friend who bought it, came back, then quit again less than month in..

    To be honest cataclysm is a special expansion with redesigned low lvl content..
    So you can add some figures to that of ppl that rerolled and decided to wait with the purchase..

    But still far away from 12mil..

    Want more proof?
    Google raid progress and you'll find maybe 1 mil raiders recorded a kill of 1/12 bosses..
    Add another mill for pvp players to that and you can expect a "hardcore" base of 2mil.
    With another 1-2mil complaining the game is "too hard"..

    Truth hurts..
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    9 million gold sellers and 7 guys in a basement in rancho cucamonga......

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    Ergo WoW is a bad game and not still the #1 MMO by a large margin in the Western world!

    Did I do it right?

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    WoW doesn't have 12 million players, it has 11 million, that means it's a TOTAL FAILURE!!!!!!

    See my proof below:

    http://blueprintfundraising.com/wp-c...8/10/graph.gif

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