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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusitan View Post
    not everyone as English as main language, be happy u actually got what i tried to say ^^
    I'm sorry, but what cheap-*** podunk language class did you take where "u" was an acceptable spelling of "you?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    If you only saw 2 people from WoW starting conversations in general chat then I need to transfer
    to your server.

    Ever other word on my server and few others in that lowbie chat was WoW this or WoW that. Just
    consider yourself luckey then for not ending up on that server.

    I come from Aion, but you do not see me talking about it constantly Even the EQ and War guys
    have been really silent. The WoW playerbase insist on being vocal for some reason.
    This was my observation as well. I come from Eve Online by the way and I don't go around saying 'Well in Eve I could just launch some cruise missiles and seal the rift'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigeons View Post
    I see a lot of people whining about 'wow players' and telling them to 'go back to wow' or whatever, but the actual amount of trolling by wow fan boys I've read in game over the beta weekend? um, like 2 people maybe?
    If this was all you saw, then I wish I had been on the server you chose! Unfortunately, my experience was that countless WoW players got on beta and made characters for no reason other than to troll general chat about how much better WoW is than Rift. It was beyond obnoxious.

    But in all honesty, I don't believe your claims of only two. I played on a few servers and the WoW trolls were rampant where ever I went and ended up having to just turn ch. 1-9 off. I just can't believe there was even one server that was full of only people there just to enjoy the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadperson View Post
    Runescape definitely exposed the younger generation to MMO's
    The general age range of WoW is 20s. I play with a lot of people in their late 20s and early 30s. The problem is, there's also a lot that act like they are kids, and it's always the vocal minority that sticks out more. The more mature WoW players generally keep to their guilds, so all you hear in public channels is trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timothymcgee View Post
    you can blame trolls for it, the come over from the game and start ranting about it and how this game sucks, for one most beta players are here cuz we really want to play and enjoy the game not hear some kid troll about wow
    Indeed!

    The WOW community in general is unhelpful and unhealthy, The spiteful trolling aspect is unfortunately the norm in my experience and I have played since the game released and still play today.

    Loving RIFT thus far

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    Essentially, it was a success. People hate success and popularity, unless it's them who are successful. There are a lot of other reasons people cite, but it basically stems from that despite what they say.

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    I agree with most of the posts in this thread. I have been in quite a few betas in the past (my first being DAoC). I have been around the block so to speak. It's been from what I have noticed, the past couple of years the trolls poping on to "open betas" and saying how much"this game or that game stole or copied WoW" I noticed it big time in the last beta event but not to much in this time thank goodness.
    I don't flame them nor do I care what they post or say, but in my opinion, there are players out there who have never pllayed WoW for more than a week (I'm not one of 'em I have played since beta) and get kinda tired hearing about Wow is a better game blah blah blah...So those players fall into the "trap".
    Somebody wrote earlier how WoW has a younger player base thus the lack of patience and the beliefe that WoW was the first. This my friends is true, i allowed my daughter to choose which game she wanted to play. The choices I gave her were DAoC, EQ2, and WoW...She chose WoW over the others (go figure) she said she liked WoW due to its ease and the fact that all of her friends play it...She told me that she didn't know about the other games (those "other" boxes stare her in the face every time she sits down to her homework...go figure.)
    Oh and welp at 6 I was listening to the Beachboys and The Surfaris cause my parents controlled the 8 track and welp the backstreet boys were a bit after my time and I was still diggin Metalica and Gwar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    I'm sorry, but what cheap-*** podunk language class did you take where "u" was an acceptable spelling of "you?"

    Because you need to get your money back.
    I'm sorry Mr. English teacher, do i need to put my donkey ears and look at the wall now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prospero View Post
    Tune the challenge:reward ratio as high as you want, but for the love of god, don't raise time:reward and call it good design.
    THIS! I understand the worries about not having a cohesive community, but sometimes it seems like people are being negative/elitist for the sake of it. Yes, you should have to run to a dungeon the first time. But every time after that? This is not challenging. It's boring.

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    I was turned down by a guild (won't name them) for not having enough MMO experience. I spent 7 years healing for a guild top of the server and even a little bit of the 7 years healing for a guild that was in the World top 100 in Burning Crusade.

    I have also played Aion, AoC, Warhammer, STO and a few others. (Not as much as WoW but I still played them off and on)

    Now I know a lot of people hate WoW but not every WoW player is terrible, immature, a child, or a troll. But honestly to be turned down by a guild because I had WoW in my gaming history. It is really sad.

    Judge a player before you judge their gaming history you may be suprised in the quality you get that way.

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    To be honest most people that frown upon wow players probably couldn't even handle some of the "harder" wow raids.

    I've spent off and on time in wow, i've raided with one of the best eq1 raiding guilds pre-velious, and i've absolutely been at the top of every mmo i've played let alone fps/rts.

    There are some people that know gaming in and out, they know how to read people, they know how to compete against people, and they know how to regurgitate an optimized rotation while moving outta fires.

    Nothing an mmo forces you to do will ever be more than moving your character and pressing the right keybind at the right time, and i have yet to see anything past a 1st gen mmo require insane reaction time for an interrupt or anything like that. (In pve)

    Everyone has their own experiences however, though as a rule of thumb when it comes to gaming opinions I firmly believe the best players tell it like it is, and the people that aren't as good have skewed perspectives because they haven't reached the top or don't know what it takes to reach the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinhosaur View Post
    To be honest most people that frown upon wow players probably couldn't even handle some of the "harder" wow raids.
    I just find it highly amusing that people who plan on hardcore PvEing would be so Anti-WoW. (They are very close in resemblance in many ways not saying this to hurt anyone's feelings but it's my honest opinion)

    I no longer play WoW just tossing that in there. I quit due to getting tired of many things. Mostly the maturity level of players. (which is most likely why everyone is scared of people coming from WoW)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughter View Post
    I just find it highly amusing that people who plan on hardcore PvEing would be so Anti-WoW. (They are very close in resemblance in many ways not saying this to hurt anyone's feelings but it's my honest opinion)

    I no longer play WoW just tossing that in there. I quit due to getting tired of many things. Mostly the maturity level of players. (which is most likely why everyone is scared of people coming from WoW)
    It IS amusing because the functionality and mechanics in rift are almost identical to WoW. You have the GCD, you have the same type of healing dps and tanking mechanics and let's face it, a lot of the talents and abilities are identical to ones you find in wow.

    Rift is not WoW, the world and story are a little different, there are some features that are different, but the pve raiding is not going to be some mindblowing experience that we've never seen before.

    Like in your case laughter, you not only played wow as a hardcore raider for a long time, you also played many different classes, so you have the versatility to handle all sorts of different types of playstyles. When you play with souls in rift, you are going to be able to call on the experience you gained in wow, and it is going to help you play your classes more efficiently in rift.

    So how can anyone possibly argue a negative connotation for wow, pertaining to rift, when it actually HELPS people play better to have had wow experience.

    There's really no game closer to rift in mechanics than wow... people may hate wow because they feel it is pop culture, but that won't change the reality of it.
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    Blizzard didn't make the trolls, they made a game. Did that game spawn trolls? Yes, but so did EverQuest. Trolls have existed for a long time, long before people slapped the word "troll" to their name, before the term troll we would have just called them *******s and left it at that.

    People call World of Warcraft players "elitist", well I'm sorry that I like to know how to play the games I play, I'm sorry that you think I'm "elitist" because I have a deep understanding of the games I play. Do you think I will be any less "elitist" when Rift comes out?

    I'm not elitist, you are for calling me that. People throw the term around but have no idea what it actually means, so let me teach you:

    e·lit·ism

    1. practice of or belief in rule by an elite.
    2. consciousness of or pride in belonging to a select or favoured group.

    Those who call others elitist are merely showing their own elitism. You think you're better than me because you don't play WoW or any other MMO? Here's a newsflash for you: You're not. Far from it, in fact. That's not me being elitist - because I don't think I'm better than you - that's me telling the truth.

    When WoW first came out people compared it to EverQuest. Why? Because that was the most popular MMO on the market at the time. People compare new MMOs to WoW because it's the most popular MMO of it's time.

    When the next-big-thing comes out and topples WoW over (no, I don't think it'll be Rift, I think it will be a real next-gen MMO and Rift is not "next-gen") then people might start comparing new MMOs to that.

    Are you going to call them elitist, too?

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    Frankly, when I wanted fun raids, I played EQ and EQ2 over WoW any day. WoW raiding was easy. It was an alright game on its copy cat merits. But, OP, when I logged into WoW and read trade chat for a few minutes my first notion was not to hug my fellow dork but rather put a bullet in the head of the scum of this earth that were happily trolling away in the worst sense...

    Literally, trade chat gives WoW players a bad name fair or not. It was bad enough that players of other MMO's have no desire for aceptable WoW behavior to spread to their current MMO. So far, thankfully, Rift is not so bad an example of your fellow gamer.

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