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    Hey,



    So basically ima newbie when it comes to PC's specs but im delving in and going to build a sub 1000 pc myself for the first time have been reading around and wonder if a spec like this would be good for the new generation of MMorpgs such as Guild wars 2 and Rift and was hoping some techies maybe lurking around who can offer advice on if this rig would be able to run ( or think it could based on video footage ) Guild wars 2/Rift in crowded areas on a relativley high setting


    Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Ga-...7181787&sr=8-1

    Processor : Intel core i5-750 - http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42915

    Graphics card : Sapphire radeon HD5850 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-HD5...7181943&sr=8-1

    Case : Coolmaster Elite 330 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elite-330-Mi...4&sr=1-1-spell

    Power supply : OCZ StealthXstream 600W or Antec truepower new TP-650 ( which is better ? )

    Hard drive : 2x Western Digital caviar blue 640 GB

    Ram : 4GB Corsair PC3-10666c9 1333MHz DDR3 ( would go higher if the otherboard can take more ram not sure how to tell if it can yet )

    Processor cooling : Gelid Tranquillo - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gelid-Tranqu...7182024&sr=1-1



    Is that case big enough for all this ?

    Sorry for the noobie questions just want to ask ( mainly for re-assurance) before wading in and wasting money then realising i could have got better ( bought a pc Gamer magazine and Custom PC mag that helped me choose.)



    Thanks



    ~Warbs

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    I'm sure Rabbit and Fozzik will be a long at some point as they're the geniuses here. You might want to have a look at the thread that Rabbit started: here.
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    Personally, I wouldn't ever buy computer parts through Amazon. However, I see you're not in the US >.< .

    The card I can say, is a great choice. I use a HIS 5850 and it's a great card. I use 3 monitors, so I lag a little bit on ultra high settings (but that's my crappy dual-core). I am not by any means a fan of intel, but to each his own. However, I do suggest Newegg for purchasing, because things will usually be much cheaper.

    Your mobo will support up to 16gbs of RAM and is dual-channel.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20Ga-p55m-ud2

    As far as PSU, I would go with this one
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...20new%20TP-650

    It has more PCI-e connectors, more SATA connectors, and higher max power. Just my thoughts. The case doesn't look like it offers much for cooling, but the 5850 doesn't really have heat issues, and my stock fans work just fine, though I do leave the side off. Just a personal preference. I have a mid-tower now, and I will be going full tower for my next rig. If you do decide to go full tower, I suggest this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-225-_-Product.

    I hope this helps (at least a little).
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    Hi,

    thanks for the help and yeah i only placed the links to amazon for people to see although i did order the case from there yesterday but im basically looking around for the cheapest places at the moment due to money being tight.

    Ad yeah the case is relativley small although the entire front panel is mesh which i guess helps the cooling but that case you showed looks really nice.Im also planning to put some extra fans in the current case once i see how much space there is once ive bought the main parts

    Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by Warbs View Post
    Hey,



    So basically ima newbie when it comes to PC's specs but im delving in and going to build a sub 1000 pc myself for the first time have been reading around and wonder if a spec like this would be good for the new generation of MMorpgs such as Guild wars 2 and Rift and was hoping some techies maybe lurking around who can offer advice on if this rig would be able to run ( or think it could based on video footage ) Guild wars 2/Rift in crowded areas on a relativley high setting


    Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Ga-...7181787&sr=8-1

    Processor : Intel core i5-750 - http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42915

    Graphics card : Sapphire radeon HD5850 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-HD5...7181943&sr=8-1

    Case : Coolmaster Elite 330 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elite-330-Mi...4&sr=1-1-spell

    Power supply : OCZ StealthXstream 600W or Antec truepower new TP-650 ( which is better ? )

    Hard drive : 2x Western Digital caviar blue 640 GB

    Ram : 4GB Corsair PC3-10666c9 1333MHz DDR3 ( would go higher if the otherboard can take more ram not sure how to tell if it can yet )

    Processor cooling : Gelid Tranquillo - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gelid-Tranqu...7182024&sr=1-1



    Is that case big enough for all this ?

    Sorry for the noobie questions just want to ask ( mainly for re-assurance) before wading in and wasting money then realising i could have got better ( bought a pc Gamer magazine and Custom PC mag that helped me choose.)



    Thanks



    ~Warbs
    Looks like good choices to me. Just a couple of little things...

    The case is just fine as far as size, but doesn't look like it comes with a front fan. It would be a good idea to grab a quality 120mm and have it sucking air in the front (there's a spot in the lower front to screw in another fan), or else pick up a case that's similar but comes with at least two fans.

    The MicroATX motherboard isn't a problem, but it is small and makes everything a little tighter and more cramped when it doesn't have to be. That case will handle a full ATX board, which will spread things out a bit and give you more expansion slots for potential upgrades. Just something to consider.

    As for power supply, My favorite is Corsair, but I think either of the ones you mentioned would be just fine.

    For the CPU cooler...I'm not sure if that will fit in the case...you'll need to check the measurements carefully because that cooler is HUGE. Those 120mm coolers...it's just hard to describe how big they are until you see them in person.

    Are you buying two hard drives because you're planning to do a RAID setup? If so, I would advise against it. If you are looking for more speed, get an SSD for your OS/Apps and a cheap second 7200 RPM drive for storage. Much better across the board performance, and more reliability.
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    Hi,

    just looked ad yeah i dont think that cpu fan would fit...watched a video of one and didnt realise the size.Since im planning to overclock the CPU at some point do you recommend a smaller fan that would have adequate cooling and yeah im going to place a fan on the front and was also wondering if its possible to mount a fan on the side or roof of the case ? even though there are no screw slots do some fans come with a sticky back of some sort ?

    Also if im removing the stock fans to add my own is there special types of fans like a fan to suck air out and another to pull air in ? and is there a certain way fans should be placed to best cool the system

    I wont be using it for intensive gaming just mainly MMo's ( mainly Rift and GW2 ) but would like to be able to handle alot of players on screen at once without having to dim the graphics to much as on my current machine i cant even handle a siege on Aion with lowest graphics and bodies turned off but i can run normal gameplay on highest graphics with around 20-30 FPS

    my curret pc :

    Manufacturer: DIXONSXP
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
    Memory: 4gb ram
    Hard Drive: 312 GB
    Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT



    Thanks, appreciate the help

    ~Warbs
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    Limited in what i can do now, at work on my iPhone, hehe. This is what I'd recommend. ...

    - Consider one SSD and a standard drive, they are much faster.

    - See what AMD says about the series 6 next week. Word is a big announcement is coming with a possible launch of two cards (roughly about at the power of the 5850 and 5870), with the rest of the cards coming in the next few months.

    - consider that intels sandy bridge is coming soonish and is supposedly a decent leap ahead for them.

    It seems my pc page got asploded on my last update, but that will be working again around I'd say around 4:30 pst. You can access my full bla bla then and I'll look at yer parts more then.

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    A q6600, while older should be fairing ok, it's that Nvidia 9400 that is completely crippling you. Upgrade that with a new AMD series 6 and you will likey be feeling a lot more powerful, probably enough to hold out for sandy bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabb1t View Post
    Limited in what i can do now, at work on my iPhone, hehe. This is what I'd recommend. ...

    - Consider one SSD and a standard drive, they are much faster.

    - See what AMD says about the series 6 next week. Word is a big announcement is coming with a possible launch of two cards (roughly about at the power of the 5850 and 5870), with the rest of the cards coming in the next few months.

    - consider that intels sandy bridge is coming soonish and is supposedly a decent leap ahead for them.

    It seems my pc page got asploded on my last update, but that will be working again around I'd say around 4:30 pst. You can access my full bla bla then and I'll look at yer parts more then.

    - - -

    A q6600, while older should be fairing ok, it's that Nvidia 9400 that is completely crippling you. Upgrade that with a new AMD series 6 and you will likey be feeling a lot more powerful, probably enough to hold out for sandy bridge.
    Hehe sounds goodm thanks

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