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    Default why do people enjoy Sandbox mmorpg?

    just a question for the people that like that style of gaming. what is it you like about it? how does it keep you attached?

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    The only real sandbox game I can think of in recent ages is minecraft, which I enjoy because, well, it's wide open and I can do whatever I want.

    Be aware that a few people here misuse the term "sandbox" and use it to refer to a theme park MMO with very few attractions and a lot of grinding. That's not sandbox play. Minecraft is sandbox play.
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    In UO and SWG you could build towns and shops and do a lot more than just grind, so I would say those two were sandbox games, but I can't think of any other MMOs that qualify.

    After we had played UO for a few years we began to talk about how cool it would be if we had quests in the game.

    I think what would keep you attached to a sand box game was the mark you had made on the world.
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    UO was the most fun I've had in a very long time.

    No pvp/pve gear, just gear. You had alot of freedom in that game, wether that be pvp or pve or building a home or farming mats. You had community, and you had player made events.

    I miss it. The lack of rules, the lack of grinding endlessly for a certain item. I tried out Darkfall for awhile, which had a beautiful world, in depth gameplay, it was just horribly implemented and everyone used bots/exploits.

    Hope sandboxes make a comeback. If UO ever rereleased I'd be all over that game so quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tro44 View Post
    just a question for the people that like that style of gaming. what is it you like about it? how does it keep you attached?
    I doubt anyone can answer this question. There hasn't been a a sandbox MMO in a long long time, with exception to Minecraft and the only reason anyone would play a sandbox MMO is because they like to do "anything" they want.

    Are you sure your not referring to a theme park MMO?
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    Darkfall would be the closest thing an MMO has come to sandbox since Ultima Online. If it had the same production support and development talent as Rift or WoW, but kept true to it's sandbox Ideals and Skill system It would have been freaking amazing.

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    Shadowbane was a sandbox MMO as well. I feel that player-created content is more reliable and has a much higher lifespan than developer-created content. Whenever a themepark MMO releases a patch, there's at least one clique (raider, casual, PvPer, quester, crafter, etc.) that complain because they didn't get anything new. This doesn't happen in a sandbox MMO, though admittedly some groups (raiders, mostly) can't create their own content in an sandbox MMO.

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    Eve is one of the few sandbox games that I can think of. Once you get past the sandbox you can do whatever you can think of.

    And contrary to popular belief 0.0 is not endgame. Endgame is what you make it. Some people enjoy mining, mission running, station trading, manufacturing, whatever came to mind. I personally carebeared it for several years running missions and teaching new players how to run those missions. When wormholes came out I decided to get my feet wet on the 0.0 end and go explore those for a bit. Since I had fun with scanning and wanted to be a little more sinister I dabbled with ninja salvaging. Then eventually I joined up with Standards and Practices [IEEE] and had a field day showing corporations and the CEO's who run them the folly of certain actions.

    And its not even limited to careers. Race's at this point mean nothing other than what your profile looks like. If you want to fly another racial ship, train up for it. You want lasers instead of missiles, train up for it. My character could fly every ship up to battleship and could shoot anything that came with a trigger.

    And even though your ships may have bonuses for certain items you were not obligated to use them. I ran around with a laser Ferox for a while even though it had bonuses in hybrids. A lot of times for tough rooms in missions I would hop from a raven to a support Dominix.

    I also liked that Eve is a game of consequences. We have trash talkers in every game but in Eve you better be prepared to back up your words because a loss really means something. This was usually how we found our clients in the IEEE. Once we opened up an 'investigation' we usually uncovered more bad leadership skills like failure to warn the corp about mining during war, having unescorted haulers auto piloting through space, how to look in local for bad guys.....

    Minecraft is a fun one for creative people. My latest project has been a massive keep centered in a valley. Any spot that is reachable by players I have been building walls (with lava inside), and the keeps front blocks the main entrance though I haven't figured out how to get my pistons working properly yet to make a grand entrance. Each level is roughly 3-4 stories tall (like 16 blocks) complete with rafters and glowstone chandeliers. I also have secret entrances all over for a multitude of ways to escape (or get in if you know about them). We have a pyramid in the desert, an oriental city opposite from me, the Dwarven highway connecting many of these areas so you can travel creature free, and a rail system for the areas the mine hasn't reached yet.

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    I enjoy the freedom of it all, being able to go and do anything the programming will permit. Amazingly I have yet to try out Minecraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptFailure View Post
    I enjoy the freedom of it all, being able to go and do anything the programming will permit. Amazingly I have yet to try out Minecraft.
    I fought it for a long time thinking it would be boring as well with bad graphics to boot. My friends bought me a copy and lo n behold I spent 20 hours building non stop. Make a room here, room there, room over here, another area over there. Friends nearly crapped their collective arses when they saw Sky Fortress the next day.

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    wurm online is the only true sandbox MMO out now, made by the same guy who made minecraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss616 View Post
    wurm online is the only true sandbox MMO out now, made by the same guy who made minecraft.
    It was made by Notch? News to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elth View Post
    Darkfall would be the closest thing an MMO has come to sandbox since Ultima Online. If it had the same production support and development talent as Rift or WoW, but kept true to it's sandbox Ideals and Skill system It would have been freaking amazing.
    Seriously, if that game had a skill cap so you couldn't just max everything out, it would have been an amazing game. Sadly, all it came down to was magic > everything, and being chased down by people flying through the sky.

    I heard they were rereleasing though? Need to check it out again and see if they're actually going to fix the few but dire problems with that game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptFailure View Post
    It was made by Notch? News to me.
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    I always been into huge worlds like Elder Scroll, probably why I liked Darkfall so much I did. Theres definitely light at the end of the tunnel for me as game called ArcheAge is coming. I think Kingdoms of Amalur is too.
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