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    Default The true meaning of "Antisocial"

    I have been reading the fourms and seeing many people saying things like grouping in this game is hard because people are antisocial.

    This is not true.

    Infact Antisocial people are more likely to group and they are the people who are going to screw you over on loot and such.
    Why?
    Because here is the true meaning of antisocial.

    Antisocial personality disorder

    A condition characterized by repetitive behavioral patterns that are contrary to usual moral and ethical standards and cause a person to experience continuous conflict with society. Symptoms include aggression, callousness, impulsiveness, irresponsibility, hostility, a low frustration level, marked emotional immaturity, and poor judgment. A person who has this disorder overlooks the rights of others, is incapable of loyalty to others or to social values, is unable to experience guilt or to learn from past behaviors, is impervious to punishment, and tends to rationalize his or her behavior or to blame it on others.

    Thus Antisocial does not mean you do not communicate with others.

    Avoidant personality disorder is when people avoid contact with others in any way shape or form.

    People with avoidant personality disorder can't stop thinking about their own shortcomings. They form relationships with other people only if they believe they will not be rejected. Loss and rejection are so painful that these people will choose to be lonely rather than risk trying to connect with others.

    So please stop with the whole people are antisocial so they dont group.

    Thanks

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    I've never used the term antisocial in anyother context than along the lines of how you defined it. As a matter of fact, I usually say "antisocial behavior." You might get an occasional person who uses the term out of its correct context, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people using the word know what it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolien View Post
    I have been reading the fourms and seeing many people saying things like grouping in this game is hard because people are antisocial.

    This is not true.

    Infact Antisocial people are more likely to group and they are the people who are going to screw you over on loot and such.
    Why?
    Because here is the true meaning of antisocial.

    Antisocial personality disorder

    A condition characterized by repetitive behavioral patterns that are contrary to usual moral and ethical standards and cause a person to experience continuous conflict with society. Symptoms include aggression, callousness, impulsiveness, irresponsibility, hostility, a low frustration level, marked emotional immaturity, and poor judgment. A person who has this disorder overlooks the rights of others, is incapable of loyalty to others or to social values, is unable to experience guilt or to learn from past behaviors, is impervious to punishment, and tends to rationalize his or her behavior or to blame it on others.

    Thus Antisocial does not mean you do not communicate with others.

    Avoidant personality disorder is when people avoid contact with others in any way shape or form.

    People with avoidant personality disorder can't stop thinking about their own shortcomings. They form relationships with other people only if they believe they will not be rejected. Loss and rejection are so painful that these people will choose to be lonely rather than risk trying to connect with others.

    So please stop with the whole people are antisocial so they dont group.

    Thanks

    Anti-Social can also mean being against society. Not going against their morals or norms... but actually against the idea of a society.

    It would be like saying Anti-Government... being against the government.

    Or Anti-Gaming.... someone against gaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolien View Post
    I have been reading the fourms and seeing many people saying things like grouping in this game is hard because people are antisocial.

    This is not true.

    Infact Antisocial people are more likely to group and they are the people who are going to screw you over on loot and such.
    Why?
    Because here is the true meaning of antisocial.

    Antisocial personality disorder

    A condition characterized by repetitive behavioral patterns that are contrary to usual moral and ethical standards and cause a person to experience continuous conflict with society. Symptoms include aggression, callousness, impulsiveness, irresponsibility, hostility, a low frustration level, marked emotional immaturity, and poor judgment. A person who has this disorder overlooks the rights of others, is incapable of loyalty to others or to social values, is unable to experience guilt or to learn from past behaviors, is impervious to punishment, and tends to rationalize his or her behavior or to blame it on others.

    Thus Antisocial does not mean you do not communicate with others.

    Avoidant personality disorder is when people avoid contact with others in any way shape or form.

    People with avoidant personality disorder can't stop thinking about their own shortcomings. They form relationships with other people only if they believe they will not be rejected. Loss and rejection are so painful that these people will choose to be lonely rather than risk trying to connect with others.

    So please stop with the whole people are antisocial so they dont group.

    Thanks
    Nobody is literally making a diagnosis of a personality disorder when they call someone antisocial. It's a label that is colloquially applied to someone who does not want to interact with others

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolien View Post
    Antisocial personality disorder
    LOL, another modern politically-correct disorder .. it's ANTISOCIAL, it's a chosen attitude, stop making out it's some sort of mental condition.
    Last edited by Kerin; 06-11-2011 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tygerus View Post
    Nobody is literally making a diagnosis of a personality disorder when they call someone antisocial. It's a label that is colloquially applied to someone who does not want to interact with others
    Thank you.

    According to the OP, people are complaining that other players are "antisocial." Not that they have an antisocial disorder. Those are two completely seperate topics.

    Antisocial

    1: averse to the society of others : unsociable

    (According to Websters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerin View Post
    LOL, another modern politically-correct disorder .. it's ANTISOCIAL, it's a chosen attitude, stop making out it's some sort of mental condition.
    This is a bad post on so many levels. Try harder.
    Last edited by Tygerus; 06-11-2011 at 12:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pig View Post
    Thank you.

    According to the OP, people are complaining that other players are "antisocial." Not that they have an antisocial disorder. Those are two completely seperate topics.

    Antisocial

    1: averse to the society of others : unsociable

    (According to Websters)
    It's not unsociable because they don't like socializing; it's because nobody likes socializing with them -- they're complete selfish ****s to everyone, ergo, their behavior is unsociable. It's not condonable or conducive to sociability. Get it?

    Those who rage against society aren't necessarily antisocial, either; they're just self-styled rebels without a cause or a clue.

    Edit: In other words, a true antisocial person is about a hop, skip, and jump away from straight up sociopathy. The only thing they're missing is the urge to kill to satiate some sick desire.
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    "Antisocial personality disorder" is not the same thing as an antisocial.

    Anti social is simply that. not social. Someone who prefers not to socialize. There can be many different levels of antisocial behavior.

    If you're a person playing a social multi player game that is entirely built around community and group play, and you choose not to play this game with other people, that could be called antisocial behavior. But it doesn't mean you're an antisocial person, and CERTAINLY doesn't mean you have a disorder.
    Last edited by Azchire; 06-11-2011 at 12:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashthra View Post
    It's not unsociable because they don't like socializing; it's because nobody likes socializing with them -- they're complete selfish ****s to everyone, ergo, their behavior is unsociable. It's not condonable or conducive to sociability. Get it?

    Those who rage against society aren't necessarily antisocial, either; they're just self-styled rebels without a cause or a clue.

    Edit: In other words, a true antisocial person is about a hop, skip, and jump away from straight up sociopathy. The only thing they're missing is the urge to kill to satiate some sick desire.
    You're relying heavily on assumptions with almost every point you try to make in this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashthra View Post
    It's not unsociable because they don't like socializing; it's because nobody likes socializing with them -- they're complete selfish ****s to everyone, ergo, their behavior is unsociable. It's not condonable or conducive to sociability. Get it?

    Those who rage against society aren't necessarily antisocial, either; they're just self-styled rebels without a cause or a clue.

    Edit: In other words, a true antisocial person is about a hop, skip, and jump away from straight up sociopathy. The only thing they're missing is the urge to kill to satiate some sick desire.
    An antisocial person can be such for a variety of reasons. Many of which are as far from a "hop skip and jump" from true, clinical sociopathy as it gets. The leap from one to the other is huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolien View Post
    Antisocial personality disorder

    A condition characterized by repetitive behavioral patterns that are contrary to usual moral and ethical standards and cause a person to experience continuous conflict with society. Symptoms include aggression, callousness, impulsiveness, irresponsibility, hostility, a low frustration level, marked emotional immaturity, and poor judgment. A person who has this disorder overlooks the rights of others, is incapable of loyalty to others or to social values, is unable to experience guilt or to learn from past behaviors, is impervious to punishment, and tends to rationalize his or her behavior or to blame it on others.
    OMG!!! The typical MMORPG player!
    Or, at least, the typical MMORPG player that posts on forums!

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    You're an idiot.

    Anti-social =/= antisocial. Go back to primary school language baddie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlippoth View Post
    OMG!!! The typical MMORPG player!
    Or, at least, the typical MMORPG player that posts on forums!
    I mean, honestly, it pretty much describes most gamers and just about everyone that posts on any forums anywhere now that I think of it. Pretty funny stuff.

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