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    Quote Originally Posted by Belterra View Post
    You haven't presented any evidence that I'm trolling... You seem to have trouble holding apart trolling and a genuine curiosity backed up by firm belifies. Also, if that's so then this thread in itself don't belong here either, as this is a game forum, not the US military forum. But trying to get anything elese then "with or against us" out of this thread seems to be like trying to get blood from a stone, so I'll just rest my case with saying that peace will never ever be achieved through war, they are each others polar opposites. It's your choice what you want to contribute to, and I've already made mine. But since I seem to have difficulties getting my point across, let me try with this song here. Funnily enough, this guy was an american.
    The only choice you've made is to allow others to die so you can be free. If you can live with that choice so be it, but at the very least the next time you see someone in uniform go say thank you.

    and you are correct, war will never bring peace, NOTHING will. If you've got the solution to stop all violence, hatred and evil, by all means, let us know, hell, go enact your strategy and bring world peace.

    Otherwise continue to sit on the sideline and let others fight for you. (or do you hold the ridiculous idea that if we just got rid of the military everyone would just leave us alone?)

    Since you like it so much, here are some quotes to ponder
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf" - Unknown

    "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
    "If you're dumb, surround yourself with smart people. If you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you" - Sports Night

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    I'm surprised...my reporting worked!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anextiomarus View Post
    I'm surprised...my reporting worked!
    Nicely done! You Sir, deserve a salute, for not only cleaning up our streets but the forums as well. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belterra View Post
    Something I've always been curious about is why militaries think they should be proud. I mean, wars are the scourge on the world and the biggest mistake ever by humanity, so why should contributors to this feel proud of themselves? Maybe you could explain this to me without rubbing glory oil all over it? No hate or hard feelings, I'd just like to know what you're thinking.
    What human being does not ever feel a sense of envy, jealousy, or covet things that others have? It is just part of being human. Yes, some people can suppress these emotions and desires but many are not able to do so. It is human nature to want things...some want material items and some crave the feeling they get when they force others to bend to their every will and desire. It is why we have locks on doors, police forces, or other means of protection. It doesn't matter at what level you look at, there have always been instances of someone wanting what someone else has and they take measures to get those things.

    I truly do wish the world could just be as peaceful as you say. It would be a wonderful place to live. However, I do not believe you can have that simply by "leaving each other alone". When you have no government, no "rules", society breaks down, look at Somalia for an example.

    With countries and governments, its really no different than above. If one country has things that another country desires or lacks, sometimes they take measures to try to take that from that country. Hence we have a military to deter those countries from thinking they can just come and take what they desire.

    We also have the issue of religion. I think you would find that a great many wars have been waged over that single cause. You have people who have been taught to believe something from the moment they were born. For them, it is indelible fact what they believe and logic and/or reason contrary to their belief has no bearing and not all religions care to peacefully co-exist with each other. I would daresay that a primary tenant of pretty much any religion is to "spread" their religion, so there is a chance conflict will arise.

    It would be nice to think that we could all just get along and do our own thing and live happily ever after. The realist in me knows that there will always be those people who feel entitled to what others have and will take it if given the chance. Or that some people feel their way is the right way so we must all bow down to their will and do as they instruct.

    So, I trust I have at least laid some of the basic foundations as to why we may need a way to protect ourselves and our society?

    At the local level, we have police forces. When you move up to the Nation-State level you have a military. The military is just a political tool at the disposal of the Nation's leader. It is usually a tool of last resort. The primary purpose is to DETER. To say to others that this nation is too strong to attack and you do so at great risk. A soldier doesn't WANT to fight...but a soldier is ready, trained, and able to fight. A soldier doesn't have a say over what their government's leaders decide outside of exercising his/her right to vote (at least in MY country).

    My country, the United States of America, has an all-volunteer force. No one is forced to join the military. Some join out of a sense of tradition, pride, or just wanting to give something back to the country that has provided them so much opportunity and freedoms. Our military does more than just fight...we are also there to help a country in need that has been hit by some natural disaster. Our military training and capabilities give us the ability to respond quickly and get assistance to those who need it. Our Navy has ships that can provide power and fresh water to areas...we have means to transport food/water/supplies to areas that are practically impossible to reach in a short time. I think Japan is very grateful any US military assistance.

    Why do we feel proud? It is because we know we can help...be that humanitarian assistance or by stopping a ruthless dictator from killing his own people or from taking over another country. Very few other countries could even do this, much less are willing to lead and do this. We help because we can help and no others seem willing to help. We are proud because we know we have a long-standing tradition of those who came before that have given their lives so that we have the freedoms we have today.

    What do you think our world would look like today if the United States had kept to its isolationism policy during WWII?

    Oh, by the way...what is your country?

    For the OP:

    I recently retired as a Major from the US Air Force after serving 20 years on active duty. My father is a retired USAF MSgt and he says that from the time I was in 6th grade, all I wanted to do was be in the Air Force like him. I know he is proud of me...but he is my hero and all I ever wanted to do was be like him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uk33 View Post
    Coastguard? I thought you said military folks hehe
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    Did 4 years as a CTT, got out in '07.

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    The husband is National Guard and I am a civilian

    Thank you for your service!

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    My reply was removed and I am not exactly sure why so I will state this part again since it was related to the topic;

    I am happily married to a 68W (Combat Medic) who is in the US Army, 10th Mountain Division. To the top!

    He is a line medic and just recently returned from a 12 month tour in Afghanistan (Baghlan, Kandahar and Konduz province) and served as a line medic (the ones that fight) and I am super, ultra, mega proud of him for he is now the Senior Line Medic of Bravo Company 1-87. HOOAH! (sorry I had to boast. Hehe. Proud Army wife here!) I love my soldier and I love my friends who also serve and have served. It takes a lot to do what all of our service men and women do and I am so very thankful for it all. I only hope that my support and love for them can show them that they are appreciated.

    I wish my hubby played MMOs but sadly he is not that big into video games.

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    The husband is a 68p, (X-Ray Tech).

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    I've got 12 years in the navy and I'm a STG2(SW) which means I'm a sonar technician onboard surface ships. Currently I'm stationed at Yokosuka, Japan and I just got back from deployment yesterday and I'm finally able to Rift it up!

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    Signed my contract at MEPS December 7th, 2010, ship 20110517 US Navy. Rate is intelligence specialist, CS3 (Petty Officer Third Class) upon completion of C School @ Dam Neck VA. Initial rank will be an E2... was 6 credits short of E3

    Any Navy people know/knew any IS guys? Did they seem to enjoy it/regret it etc? Hard to find any info online besides the generic description the MEPS liaison gives you.

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    Oh yeah...

    2E1X4 was my AF designation (25R for the Army folk).

    Television and Intrusion Detection Systems (they merged Base Intrusion Security Systems and Television Studio Equipment Operation and Repair just after I joined).

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