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    Default Newcomer question

    Absolutely not a newcomer here. I've solo'd and PVP'd Rift since Beta. But now that PVP is slowly bleeding to death, and now that soloing old content doesn't earn much anymore, I'm exploring PVE options so I can stay in the game. I'm having lots of trouble finding any groups to play with though. The LFG and LFR mostly don't result in anything popping and the advise most often given is: "Just join a guild and go from there."

    So, reluctantly I joined a guild. The biggest one on my homeshard. (ctrlaltelite) But then what? I've been a member since a while now. And when I look in the roster and wall it seems quite active. I'm trading artifacts with the guild bank and adding lots of new skins from it as well. There are new items every day. But I haven't got the foggiest idea on how to proceed now. The LFG and LFR still don't pop any quicker or any at all.

    Are there any guides, old or new, to how these guild things work?

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    Have you ever tried to actually *talk* to anybody in your new guild? Sometimes a wee bit of communication with other players really can do wonders.

    If on the other hand you're not that type of person who likes to communicate with others - there is a ton of single player games on the market that surely will suit you better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elayara View Post
    Have you ever tried to actually *talk* to anybody in your new guild? Sometimes a wee bit of communication with other players really can do wonders.

    If on the other hand you're not that type of person who likes to communicate with others - there is a ton of single player games on the market that surely will suit you better.
    I'm the type of person that prefers playing against other people for the extra challenge. MMO's usually are very good at providing that. The looking for warfont tool always pops within half a minute, regardless of time of day. I realize Rift is very quickly drifting away from PVP, but that is what attracted me to Rift in the first place. I've invested a lot of time in Rift, and still find it a very charming game, so just switching over to something else doesn't have my preference.

    I was under the assumption that using LFG from within a guild would form a group of guild members.

    My few attempts at guild chats always seemed to go like this:
    Me: "Hi! Anyone up for an expert?"
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Me: "Hello?"
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Me: "Anyone...?"
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*

    Then I usually press "K" -> select "join random warfront" -> *Warfront pops*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlavius View Post
    I'm the type of person that prefers playing against other people for the extra challenge. MMO's usually are very good at providing that. The looking for warfont tool always pops within half a minute, regardless of time of day. I realize Rift is very quickly drifting away from PVP, but that is what attracted me to Rift in the first place. I've invested a lot of time in Rift, and still find it a very charming game, so just switching over to something else doesn't have my preference.

    I was under the assumption that using LFG from within a guild would form a group of guild members.

    My few attempts at guild chats always seemed to go like this:
    Me: "Hi! Anyone up for an expert?"
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Me: "Hello?"
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Me: "Anyone...?"
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*
    Other guild members: *Talk amongst each other*

    Then I usually press "K" -> select "join random warfront" -> *Warfront pops*

    Join a new guild

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlavius View Post
    I was under the assumption that using LFG from within a guild would form a group of guild members.
    The advice "get a guild" usually means "get a guild of like-minded people, and then organize your in-game activities with these people". The game won't do any of that for you, just because you're in a guild.

    And if people in your guild won't talk to you, then (as Maltie said) look out for a new guild.

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    Also, when joining a guild you may want to talk to an officer or the guildleader first to see if it would be a good fit. That way you can bring up your expectations / concerns / etc and see if the guild has "like minded" people.

    And yes, just being in a guild doesn't magically kidnap them into dungeon runs when someone in their guild queues up. So like someone already mentioned, when people say "join a guild" they mean "join a guild and 1) jump in when someone organizes anything in guild chat or 2) try to organize stuff in guild chat"

    I've also found that people who just randomly say "anybody for a dungeon" get a lot less traction than someone who says "LF3M DPS for dungeon, have tank & heal". Bottom line: make friends with a tank or healer (or learn to tank / heal) and your dungeon organizing will be much less frustrating.

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    Default Not all guilds are the same lol

    My friend- you just need the right guild. We always do things with our guild members, help gear them, coach them, and help them progress. I am not in game very much anymore- I am playing a different game, but my guild remains in Rift and my co-guild leader and officers are still helping new guildies out. Just find one that is a good fit. We also have Vent- which helps because you can explain things. We have a website- which has not been updated recently but there is still information on it that might help up and comers. These are things you should check into joining a guild- as well as talking to the GL or RL and seeing what the vibe is.

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    looks like you're having problems with peeps.

    my advice :

    find out if peeps prefer using guild chat or voice comms. many guilds have a dedicated TS or mumble or discord.

    join in the discussion. YOU'RE the new guy. YOU have to take the first step (oh the supreme irony... me coaching other people how to make friends LOL)

    make friends ask a bit more directly. "im doing an expert, anyone wanna hop in? would love to do a guild run!!" rather than a boring bland question like "anyone wanna do expert".

    make a group, do some old dungeons for chievos, play with lowbies, there;s tons of ways to make new friends.

    and it just doesnt have to be with a guild, you can do the same with global chat too. friends are found in all places.
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    Default Not that easy

    Ok im not being negative just making some points as i think thiers more than enuf negativity surrounding rift already.
    In theory the advise of finding like minded guild is correct its not that easy, Ive had a post on the forums a while asking for guilds invites, 209 views not 1 invite i'm a very active player open too all forms of gameplay but alas no joy.
    i too joined CtrlAlt/del thinking lg guild plenty of social activitie,
    There roster is filled with countless people who no longer belong,
    No one even said welcome to guild left after 15 mins.
    Not all guilds are the same there are good guilds out there just cant find them

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    It is true that from a guild point of vieuw the newcommer has to put some effort in the step of being accepted .
    Usually this is done just by socialising .
    In my opinion you dont have to use voice coms at all to be accepted . our guild has many guildies who just cant speak english enough for a convo or are just not able to talk because they have babies sleeping

    A guild is like a family , you just have to find the right one with common goals you like to achieve.

    We have a new member that is so friendly and helpfull we are forcing him to write a guide : how to raid in 15 days from lvl 0 to 70 .

    Activities are pushed from our members or are simply orgenised by our officers but in the end it is the individual that has to be pro-active

    I wish you all the luck finding your home

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