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Thread: Trion - Another "Live" Test you might consider.

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    Default Trion - Another "Live" Test you might consider.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the concept of normalization. It's a pretty late stage in development to implement that into the game, but if you can pull it off properly Kudos.

    However, you might consider an alternative "live" test for fair PvP that would be less stressful on the community. Would it be feasible to combine every server into a single battlegroup, and then create a button called "Ranked" which would queue you for PVP with players that are within the correct prestige brackets?

    P1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, 41-50.

    Right now our population in PvP is too small for consistent ranked matches, but during prime-time with every server in the same battlegroup (possibly still separating EU and US), I think it's possible that queue times could be reasonable.

    You'd have to test it on the live servers, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patchkid View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I love the concept of normalization. It's a pretty late stage in development to implement that into the game, but if you can pull it off properly Kudos.

    However, you might consider an alternative "live" test for fair PvP that would be less stressful on the community. Would it be feasible to combine every server into a single battlegroup, and then create a button called "Ranked" which would queue you for PVP with players that are within the correct prestige brackets?

    P1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, 41-50.

    Right now our population in PvP is too small for consistent ranked matches, but during prime-time with every server in the same battlegroup (possibly still separating EU and US), I think it's possible that queue times could be reasonable.

    You'd have to test it on the live servers, though...

    once again, the system is already in place. the population (yes, even in 'prime time') is just not there to support the brackets in many cases.

    I'll give you a tip: if you want lower rank matches, go to the Faeblight cluster. If you want more high -rank matches, go to the Seastone cluster.

    That's about as close as the system will get for now, and it's only going to get worse starting next week.

    What they really need to fix is the class balance during match making. Color coded games are getting old.
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    Keeping a thread going with half truths, ignorance, bias, and an inability to understand even the most basic elements of pvp is not going to get anything nerfed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygfa View Post
    once again, the system is already in place. the population (yes, even in 'prime time') is just not there to support the brackets in many cases.
    I think you missed the part where I suggested the following two very significant changes to the current system.

    1. Combine every single server (regionally) into the same battlegroup / cluster.

    2. Make ranking an option that is enforced when selected.

    Instead we have little clusters of servers, half of which are dead. While ranking is not enforced even if players would prefer to wait for a ranked match.
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    This already happens, if enough people within your bracket queue. Clearly they do not.

    EDIT: Combining every battlegroup is probably a bigger undertaking than you're considering as there's not currently a single type of content that lets you be in the same instance as characters on other battlegroups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinnz View Post
    This already happens, if enough people within your bracket queue. Clearly they do not.

    EDIT: Combining every battlegroup is probably a bigger undertaking than you're considering as there's not currently a single type of content that lets you be in the same instance as characters on other battlegroups.
    Maybe, but not necessarily a bigger project than normalizing all of instanced PVP. Out of curiosity, you only get to do T2 PUGs with your own battlegroup, correct? Just checking since I have not really paid attention to server tags for T2s.

    Seems like the underlying technology is there. I know they've changed the battlegroups around when they change servers over (used to play on Sunrest... it's a trial server now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misun View Post
    yea pvp in Rift is not going to have a bright future, no matter what they do at this point.
    "too little, too late"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patchkid View Post
    Maybe, but not necessarily a bigger project than normalizing all of instanced PVP. Out of curiosity, you only get to do T2 PUGs with your own battlegroup, correct? Just checking since I have not really paid attention to server tags for T2s.

    Seems like the underlying technology is there. I know they've changed the battlegroups around when they change servers over (used to play on Sunrest... it's a trial server now).
    Most definitely a bigger project engineering-wise. What they're doing now only requires software changes within the game, not to how servers are set up :P

    And yes LFG only works within your battlegroup as well.

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    besides people who are rank1 still will face enemies rank10 (and people already qq about PA which gives much less advantage then r1 to 10) and will qq about that,

    all europe servers are already in one battlegroup and matchmaking isnt working due to less population.

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