I got an idea..... to keep the bads out..... you die? too bad you're out of the match someone else replaces you. better luck next time don't die :P
I'm not going to participate in a disappointing and lackluster pvp experience by myself, and if I cant do it with friends then there's no point in even playing.
some ideas i guess
- All wfs need to be back
- Balance issues resolved, stop catering to ranged players.
- Damage and healing hard values can really be fine tuned. TTK is too fast.
- Need to take steps forward and not backwards, add content, not delete it. Seems simple no? TDM? Free for all? New maps based on current zones (which would make it easier to develop)
- Reduce wfs to 10v10 max. Or make the maps bigger. Smaller team fights are always better and 15 people on each side is very laggy for the engine used on this game. Makes for a choppy pvp experience even for those with top end pc's.
- Cap mount speed on all maps to 150% and remove mounts on codex.
- Meaningful prestige system, up to lvl 150 and add "prestige points". Similar to honor talents from wow but make it unique.
- Planar fragment system just needs work in general, nobody likes an rng grind that takes forever. People like gear and stat differences, but not long grinds that involve heavy rng.
- Eternal pvp weapons?
- Rift 2?
lol alot of these are all basically long shots but idk i guess it doesn't hurt to post.
Last edited by Xclvsive; 04-21-2017 at 09:40 AM.
Premades shoudln't ever have existed in an MMO to begin with. It's okay to group up with your friends in pvp-centric games that don't involve vertical progression gearing like, Halo or CoD, but in an RPG it only invites drastic imbalance. You're basically trading the concept of fair competition away in order to play with friends (assuming you and your friends are skilled / geared anyway).
In games like this, time put into the game directly correlates to how powerful your character is, unless you're an RPer or dimensioneer or something. This is more true than ever now because of fragments. Yes, there is some bolstering, but it is and has always been an imperfect system that does not take every factor into account.
PvP by nature in an MMO is a shaky concept at best simply because there is so much gear and stat variance involved, but having a premade basically adds a multiplier to that potential imbalance.
Last edited by bollesti; 04-20-2017 at 12:04 PM.
In the absence of perfect stat balancing, you have to choose between having a fair, balanced game, or the ability to play with your friends. Trion chose the latter, and here we are.
Let's call it for what it is shall we. If you did the same amount of work, get the same gear, good skills, got into premades, would you be saying the same thing? You are one side looking at the other wanting to be on that side, but can't for various reasons, so instead of taking that as initiative to become better, you whine about how unfair it all is. Zero you-know-what's given.
I like to sea trion add in a merk tab
cause I play deifnt and I hate when I get merked to gurd side
I would play gurd if that what I wanted a tab were it says you wish merc? y/n just a persnol choice
Lemme give you a scenario: Player 1 has all greens, no runes, no orbs, and still has NT essences with minimal fragments. Player 2 has a mixture of TD and expert gear, all t9 fragments, and near-BiS essences.
Who's gonna win 1v1 in this encounter? Is skill going to have ANY bearing on who wins? No, no it won't. Bolstering doesn't do enough to close the gap, and still doesn't take many factors into account.
Your argument is fundamentally flawed. Time invested should NOT automatically give you an advantage for versus play. It is up to YOU, the user, to develop those skills. You can do 1000 wfs and run TD 1000 times and not actually get better, but in this game, you're going to hit harder and heal harder because of gear. This is okay for PvE because the players are working together towards a common goal. Your victory is not hindered by others having better gear than you because they chose to spend every waking hour of their free time grinding.
PvP should be entirely or almost entirely skill based, in ANY game. This whole train of thought that investing more time should reward you with a stat advantage over other players in a versus environment is wrong, just so, so very wrong. But of course it's going to be the popular sentiment in an MMO, so I guess I'm just shouting at a brick wall here.
Can you imagine an FPS where you had green, blue, purple, or orange gear / weapons that you got through grinding? Like a versus borderlands? Can you imagine the utter RAGE that would induce? Do you recall the utter rage it DID induce in destiny versus play? And those pieces of gear / weapons didn't have NEARLY the variance that gear / weapons in this game do!
Last edited by Boxsmith; 04-21-2017 at 05:53 AM.
I haven't pvp'd in several years. Used to be 'better than average...
Probably just a sense I get... but aren't most pre-made groups kind of boring? I'm referring to those matches where you are steamrolling over the other team. Yeh, shiz and giggles for a while but would seem to get old without regular challenges. Just curious.
WFs suck now because there are too few who do them. Every match is a PM vs a PUG. Yeah it's easy to say well "Your pug should adapt" etc. This, however, doesn't work. No matter how much you say to focus down healers, and get objectives most PUG groups are doing their own thing or have no clue what is going on. That being said I do not think PMs should be done away with. If people want to group they should be able to. In my opinion the only way to fix PVP at this point is to increase the incentive for all to do it. This would enrich the pool of players and make matches more competitive. I'm not saying force PvEers to do PVP, but there are incentives that could be added into PVP that could entice them. Also exclusive had some very good ideas. I used to PVP very heavily in SL and at the end of NMT. I can't bear it in SFP. Going into a PUG every match with people who are generally clueless when we against a PM is just lulllllllllll. Also please bring back NB for rogues. That was our most fun PVP spec
Make NB great again
**** it dude. Lets go bowling