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    Default New Dreamweaving Crates are VERY P2W (and buggy)

    First off, here's some information about the new Dreamweaving Crates and rare minion adventures.

    - The rare minion missions cost credits to complete - 45 credits for a 15 minute mission and 135 credits for an 8 hour
    - There doesn't seem to be 1 min or 4 H rare missions
    - They drop Cosmic Fragments and Planar Stabilizers

    Planar Stabilizers are relic quality and used to open the new Intrepid IA boxes, which have guaranteed loot. They are not bound.

    Cosmic Fragments are used in the new Dreamweaver Cosmic Essence Supply Cache (4 per cache). They are bound.

    This is an example of an essence that dropped from an Aggressor (DPS/healing) supply cache:



    This is a rare rarity essence. Imagine what the epic, or relic essence is like, if they exist. This item is soulbound, so it can only be obtained through first getting a cosmic fragment from RNG minion missions that cost credits, having dreamweaver and two recipes, and then being lucky with the cache (which costs a not insignificant amount of materials too). The cosmic fragments are also soulbound.

    Furthermore, the option to skip these rare minion missions is broken at the moment. I tried logging out, restarting my game, and other things. None of them worked. If I want to do a mission, I effectively have to either pay up, or wait until they reset.

    Example essences:

    A tanking stat greater:


    A DPS greater:


    Tanking lesser:


    A healing greater, with even higher stats:


    The essences seem to have PvP procs. This means that there are no tanking essence procs, only tanking greaters with DPS/healing type procs. For DPS purposes, there are Brimstones (206 CP), Sandstones (190 PC/SC) and Rotwards (~1449 death damage/heal ).
    Last edited by DarkDaemon; 02-10-2016 at 02:26 PM.

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    Now you know why they nerfed minions. I mean balanced.

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    Also the fragments, box and essences are all BoP.

    So if you want the essences, I guess the only way is to throw credits at the adventures and throw yourself into the RNGfest and hope you don't get something like that screenshot had.
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    Guess what I just got!



    This is ridiculous. If they were just rare level essences like the one in my OP, that would have been fine, but this is so BiS it's beyond normal levels of P2W.

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    The upgrade is also obtainable with credits. No heart/eyes/etc required...

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    i'm estimating ~1000-2000 credits, based on rng, to craft and upgrade one essence, and then you have to get lucky.

    i'm not even sure what to say about this.

    edit; also just a heads up, these will almost definitely be downbolstered in pvp since the latest event essences are too. the greaters probably will not work in pvp at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecru View Post
    i'm estimating ~1000-2000 credits, based on rng, to craft and upgrade one essence, and then you have to get lucky.

    i'm not even sure what to say about this.
    Cost me ~1500 credits to get 7 cosmic fragments (and a lot of averturine)
    Last edited by DarkDaemon; 02-10-2016 at 09:41 AM.

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    These things also drop greaters?

    Also, it's curious how they made it a requirement to have 450 DW to get these, the stuff isn't even account bound.
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    So why isn't this tradeable? Only obtainable by credits and rng? Ofc the trion argument would most likely be you can buy credits with in game plat so its not p2win....

    Sigh I should've expected something like this by now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolio View Post
    These things also drop greaters?

    Also, it's curious how they made it a requirement to have 450 DW to get these, the stuff isn't even account bound.
    people were asking sink for ribbons, so they got now

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    The limiting factor and the expense are the cosmic fragments, not the ribbons. 25 ribbons per box sets you back a handful of plat, the few hundred credits for the fragments is a far bigger issue.
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    The P2W era begins in deffinitive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liadva View Post
    So why isn't this tradeable? Only obtainable by credits and rng? Ofc the trion argument would most likely be you can buy credits with in game plat so its not p2win....

    Sigh I should've expected something like this by now

    As we've learned from the Artifaction thread (too lazy to find the dev quote/post):

    RNG = FUN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolio View Post
    The limiting factor and the expense are the cosmic fragments, not the ribbons. 25 ribbons per box sets you back a handful of plat, the few hundred credits for the fragments is a far bigger issue.
    still you need quite a few to get 450 DW, not everyone have it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramcius View Post
    people were asking sink for ribbons, so they got now
    This isn't a sink for ribbons, although it will drive prices up as more raiders attempt to level their DW

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