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    It would not be so bad if Trion would put it where we can use credits to open up the earring slots and planar attunement.The grind to get them is horrendous. People say u can grind out in 3wks 100,000 VS. Wth. That is bogus right there My poor nephew tried it Guess What? Not going to happen. He got all crafted gear upgraded that then tried to upgrade it more. he had to use his earned VS to get the accelerators which he said cost like almost 6,000 VS to do per one.
    I have one question to the DEVS : Why are equipment slots gated in this way? Could you not put a credit price on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave1780 View Post
    So you think you're monthly patron fee keeps their doors open? I don't own Trion but I bet it takes more than our $15 a month to stay open.

    Look, I've been pretty rough with Trion recently over a lot of things and I'm not making excuses for them but they are a business and do need to make money. That much I understand. And if I am not happy with the level of service I receive, I will take my business elsewhere.
    Isnt WoW subscription about 15$/month,an the game seems pretty healthy to me,also you didnt count that you have to buy new souls...
    But the problem isnt how trion makes money,its how bad the marketing decisions are.Many here say that you dont have to buy earrings,pw:w because they are not needed.Now lets say that some other mmo players decide to give this game a shot so they search about the cons of this game.When they see:
    -Not all gear is equipable,unless you buy CE on NT(i was amazed when i saw that even THE FIRST item of the story line is pw:w worst way to tell players about CE)
    -Not all gear slots are open,you have to buy them
    but for those 2 points its ok,you can grind them for a month or more depending on your abillities
    -Tempest seems to be rather a necessity than an option to me,no other soul seems to be so needed to every warrior build(ranged builder,riftblade,reaver)

    Now tell me,new players who sees those drawbacks,do you think they would say what we say?that its ok,its still a free game?
    Nope they say its probably a p2w game(even though its not).And the worst thing is that active players think that way
    Ofc i dont think this is a dev's fault on the whole mess that is created(unfinished reaver rework,lack of pvp progression,many players leaving the game).The ones to blame are those who pressure the expansion to be released within a time schedule,or at least i hope thats the case and everything is going to be better^_^

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    Default Ear Ring are also low level Quest Rewards

    Just for a bit of a change I rolled a new alt and went out into silverwood to do some quests.

    Imagine my amusement to get ear rings as a quest reward from one of the quests at Argent Glade... nice way to slap people who haven't bought the CE.

    Daglar can say and use words as many ways as he wants, but to those of us who have supported the game since the beginning, well me at least and more than a few others by the looks of it, this is leaving more than a sour taste in our mouths.

    It's very sad that it's going this way, Rift , by the looks of it, was F2P'd early, to support terrible decisions on other games in their stable, and they are now having to do it even more to support them as well.

    The enjoyment of Rift is going fast as well... a huge city maze to navigate to do quests... grind/pay walls... it all saps the will out of me to even bother to log on, sad really, I used to really enjoy Rift, but that is fading very fast the more I see the direction of the game and the attitude of the Devs to customers voicing legitimate concerns and the wordplays they use to excuse themselves.

    This would have all been avoided with honesty at the beginning... they fooled us once with the 12 month Storm Legion then going to F2P.... this is the fools us twice moment, and I just really can't be bothered anymore with it.

    I will probably still play on and off a bit, just messing about, as there are still a few good online friends who play. Sadly 95%, possibly even more, of the Guild and friends that used to play have totally dropped Rift due to their decisions since Storm Legion, but I cannot see any more real cash investment in a game that cannot be honest and upfront to its customers.
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    I wasn't aware so many fans of the rock group Queen played Rift, Freddie Mercury would have been proud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slipmat View Post
    I wasn't aware so many fans of the rock group Queen played Rift, Freddie Mercury would have been proud.

    I dedicate this video to all you fans, enjoy
    Don't use Freddie for forum PVP, come on. There are lines you don't cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galibier View Post
    I am what the f2p market calls a "whale". As such I do not feel the burn. However I have many friends who play this game who are feeling this burn and even I being one of those "whales" has to say "damn if I couldn't afford this crap I would be playing elsewhere." Hell SWTOR which was the cash game I used to point to as a more expensive option than Rift now seems a bargain. Just saying.
    Yeah I suppose I'm with you here. I'm mid-50's, good job, not many hobbies other than playing video games, kids have moved out, empty nest again, and if I decide to go out and have a nice evening with friends I'll spend $200 on drinks and food before the night is over (it's funny how it always seems to reach that mark, when it was four people we went lesser places, just my wife and I now and we still spend the same amount but go to nicer locations).

    So if I'm playing Rift and realize that I need something to do whatever it is I want to do, I'll go spend $5 or $20 in the Rift store, or buy a REX that I sell quick for a cheap price if I need in game plat. I've completely lost track of how much I've spent over time and I don't give a damn. If I didn't want to spend it or didn't think it was worth it, I would go to a ball game, or watch a pay per view movie, or spend money somewhere else for my entertainment.

    I guess because I measure Rift against other forms of entertainment, and because I seem to have a different scale of what "expensive" means, I've lost the ability to connect with those who are complaining.

    Almost every night on the way home from work, I buy a Starbucks coffee (grande breve latte, please, with 2 Splendas in it). Why? Because I live and work in a really big traffic mess and I'm going to be listening to XM radio while I crawl along in my car for an hour to get home. And that coffee relaxes and entertains me while I'm doing it. It costs $4.70-something, nearly $5. That's 750 credits in the Rift store. So I pay 750 credits nearly every night and never complain or care, because I perceive the value of the coffee for the long ride home.

    I guess I need a narrative from the other side of things to understand why it makes people so angry to need to throw some dollars at their entertainment. If there was something else I liked playing more than cost less, I'd go play that. Is it that you really LIKE playing THIS game and just wish it were cheaper? I wish a lot of things were cheaper, that's the tension of the consumer spending game.

    This whole "Trion lied to me" thing is stupid. They're going to insist they didn't, the angry guy will insist they did, that's like a marriage gone bad. Time for the angry guy to move out and get a divorce, I think.

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    Considering the expansion is going to be around for roughly two (or slightly more) years, I don't see how 3-4 weeks of grinding is a big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torvaldr View Post
    No individual game should cost a player $200 a year or better to play and fully enjoy.
    Most games with a reoccuring fee are in the ballpark. Wow is almost that much a year and it's doing well.

    I think $200 a year is a fine number as long as you get a lot entertainment from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alatarv View Post
    Almost every night on the way home from work, I buy a Starbucks coffee (grande breve latte, please, with 2 Splendas in it). Why? Because I live and work in a really big traffic mess and I'm going to be listening to XM radio while I crawl along in my car for an hour to get home.
    No, why is because you can afford XM and Starbucks because you have large quantities of disposable income. Lame to come lecturing less well-off people about how luxurious you are and how the money doesn't matter, and how stupid they are to complain. At least you realize you've lost the ability to connect, so you have the opportunity to get perspective.

    For me, I paid for credits to buy these things from the store. I also bought the souls. I also bought a sub. I'm not going to pay again. Maybe by the time the next expansion comes, I will have the earrings by then. Until then, I'm completely unmotivated to play any group content at a disadvantage, and at this point haven't logged in to Rift in a week.

    Want to hire Black Magic Specialist for this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverangel69 View Post
    No, why is because you can afford XM and Starbucks because you have large quantities of disposable income. Lame to come lecturing less well-off people about how luxurious you are and how the money doesn't matter, and how stupid they are to complain. At least you realize you've lost the ability to connect, so you have the opportunity to get perspective.

    For me, I paid for credits to buy these things from the store. I also bought the souls. I also bought a sub. I'm not going to pay again. Maybe by the time the next expansion comes, I will have the earrings by then. Until then, I'm completely unmotivated to play any group content at a disadvantage, and at this point haven't logged in to Rift in a week.

    Want to hire Black Magic Specialist for this one.
    I don't think that was his intent. He was just relating the expense vs. the pleasure he receives from the game and coffee. It's what he enjoys so he's OK spending the money and I feel the same way. Similarly, I get a cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee on the ride to work although I could easily make some off brand at home and save $1.50 a day. But I won't because I like the taste more and I get pleasure from it.

    A lot of people spend money they don't have to but choose to. We spend money on more trivial thing b/c those are the things that makes life, well, life. Good, satisfying, pleasurable.

    At least that's how I interpreted it.

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    I purchased the NT Xpac .. at that time there was no mention of PVP at all ..Little did we know that they planned a unification of gear and PVP as we new it was no more with Prestige counting for nothing .. progression gone. It was all kept under an NDA and no one new about it at the time the Xpac went on sale. I trusted them but feel really let down let down because I loved PVP a lot.

    Been with them before SL in the old subscription days.I purchased SL and after paying for a years subs it suddenly went F2P. Not an inkling of it at all.

    Given their track record I think folks need to be very careful about what the representatives say and what they do because it seems that it can mean 2 different things.

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    I dont't get one point:

    Rift is a game, we play it to have a hobby. Like thousands of other hobbies too. Why the hell it is so hated that there is a grinding needed for the earringslots or the pw:w or instead of that to pay for them?

    The expansion is now how old? 2,5 weeks? How long will it last till the first complaints about "nothing more to do... we need content" will hit the forums?

    Slipmat said well with Freddies help: I want it all... and I want it now.

    Does one of you who complain about the longlasting grind think about the nessessarity that a game has to take a longer time than only a month, especially the online games? So ok, for the people who cannot grind because of children, work or both: Buy your slots and attunement, if you have no time to play. Understandable. But may be you also have no time to play the game, to raid... or?
    The others who don't want to pay money or cannot, mostly should have or at least effort the time for earning it ingame.

    But please: The way you play a game may not be the way of all players and definetely also not Trion's. Trion's interest is to earn money... so they cover both ways of gamers. What is wrong with that?
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    Well, play for it or pay for it, it's your choice.

    And i don't get it, there is no subscription required and you can play the whole content even with the "classic" souls, and there are still complains... much ado about nothing.

    And if you think WoW is sooo much better, don't let the door hit you on the way outside... of course there you have to pay the subscription AND you have to pay the expansions, and there is an item store... but sure, Rift is the evil one here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmidgesToe View Post
    And I'm still of the mindset you don't need the CE editions to enjoy tNT both during leveling and to be competitive at endgame. It's neat stuff, but not truly needed if you enjoy playing the game
    I guess that depends on your definition of "competitive" and "end game"

    ... because being several hundred stat points behind on every single one of your raiders (20x folks who did not pay) is not going to be anywhere near competitive compared to a group of people who did.
    So long, and thanks for all the fish~

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    At least earing slots can be acquired in game, even if it's a grind. The ONLY way to get an amphibious mount is by paying $150! That's not cosmetic. That's questing and gathering speed.

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