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    Default I do not raid at end game. How common is this?

    I am just curious as to how common people like me are at end game. I am one of those that spends his end game achievement hunting, and Artifact hunting. I am also going back over the older zones making sure I have done *every* possible quest, and filled in all those little corners of the map, gone cairn hunting, doing every puzzle in game. I have joined a non-raiding guild to this end. We socialise, RP, and generally have fun doing those other few activities together.

    I do however run dungeons, but only want to do them once to get the achievements for doing them. Once done, left alone.

    I am determined to get as many artifact sets and titles as is physically possible in game. This means that with my main and two alts, I spend 3 hours a day just artifact hunting, running unstable zone events.

    Looking forward to seeing replies about this here. I see posts complaining about people lives being over if they cannot progress with armor from raiding because of the ESM cap, and I think "But why are they complaining? There is so much more to endgame than raiding."

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    It's fine however you play it. Different strokes for different strokes, just play the game whichever way entertains you.

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    I am level 60 for 4 months now, I have completed nearly every quest outside of raid ones, and I am working towards maxing every single profession (I still miss 3 professions), artifact hunting, and completing PvE-oriented achievements. I haven't entered a single raid instance yet.

    It's actually a lot more grindy and time consuming than being focused solely on hardcore raiding.

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    I'd wager you can spend more time doing artifacts and achievements than it takes to raid, you have a massive amount of content outside of raids and not many people realize this.

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    When I hit 60 the 1st time, I worked on world gear and hit the Chronicles. I don't have interest in "Dungeons" and Raids in this game, as I would have to join a guild for that stuff, which would mean a bunch of drama (anytime you put people together, there will be drama). I pretty much consider Chronicles to be my dungeons and Zone Events to be my Raids. I find it more enjoyable cause I won't be limited to playing the cookie-cutter builds (I actually have a sword and board dps build I like to use, sure couldn't get away with that in "dungeons" and raids without people yelling bloody murder).
    After the 1st it pretty much becomes level the alts one after the other and work on guild quests. Once all are leveled (with the exception of the ones I level with a friend), I'll start working on gear for them, with the limitations of World, Crafted, and Chronicles.
    I have started doing some Warfronts on a level 50+ char I usually level with a friend, sometimes it's more appealing to kill 1500 players, then close 95 rifts for a guild weekly.

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    You are in good company.

    From a post on our community blog:
    " Between 40% and 60% of our daily active users chase artifacts (and by chasing, I mean harvesting). When so many people are avidly hunting for something, there’s only one logical conclusion: give them more of what they want."

    Entire blog post:
    http://community.riftgame.com/en/201...-better-games/

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    Me too. i do not raid at all. lol. No time for it and doesn't want to commit to it.

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    Hey, we are in the same page. I wanted to give raid a chance, then i give up on the idea when the effort to get into raid group are not worth the reward that i would get.

    So i just focus on other game aspect, like crafting, dungeon, closing rift, questing, story, saga, event etc etc etc. After that i realize there are much more to do end game in this game than raiding.

    Glad to see there are people here that love the same idea as me too

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    I have raided in some games at end game but I really don't either in most games.

    I do dungeons and some PVP in most MMO's but yeah I don't have many real life buds who play MMOrpg's so I don't really RAID much and I a lot of the time don't join guilds either so...

    I wouldn't say it's uncommon for people to not RAID, or at least not often.
    Last edited by gobSIDES; 03-29-2014 at 07:45 AM.

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    Don't raid personally, just can't do a year plus investment to be best in slot grinding the smallest chunk of content in the game. I'll probably play it once eventually when I decide to quit because really who wants to hang around after the credits roll, the world gets a lot more empty at that point.

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    I've never done raiding in Rift, except occasionally tagging along on raid rifts. If things settle down a bit in the rest of my world, I plan to spend some time getting better at things and trying it, but it turns out to be very hard for me to get to that point, because I have sensory issues that make it harder for me to handle the experts well enough to focus on learning my class. This gets better with time and practice, though.
    You can play WoW in any MMO. You don't have to play WoW in RIFT. Oh, and no, RIFT is not a WoW clone. Not having fun any more? Learn to play, noob! I don't speak for Riftui, but I moderate stuff there. Just came back? Welcome back! Here's what's changed. (Updated for 2.5!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDataDude View Post
    You are in good company.

    From a post on our community blog:
    " Between 40% and 60% of our daily active users chase artifacts (and by chasing, I mean harvesting). When so many people are avidly hunting for something, there’s only one logical conclusion: give them more of what they want."

    Entire blog post:
    http://community.riftgame.com/en/201...-better-games/
    Now this is interesting. I find it hard to believe that 40-60% are 'artifact players'. How is one categorised as an artifact harvester. Are these just people who collect an artifact while going about their business or are these people who scour zones looking for artifacts. I can't believe it's the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDataDude View Post
    From a post on our community blog:
    " Between 40% and 60% of our daily active users chase artifacts
    Which obviously means they don't raid.
    Noco@Wolfsbane

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    Considering that raids are just a tiny part of all the end game content one could expect not raiding to be very common, as it proves to be. It may seem different because raiders alongside with pvp qq'ers usully make themselves more "audible" around here, the internet in general and in the in-game chat.
    Last edited by TrueJimmie; 03-29-2014 at 11:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Swag- View Post
    Which obviously means they don't raid.
    Quote Originally Posted by caitie View Post
    Now this is interesting. I find it hard to believe that 40-60% are 'artifact players'. How is one categorised as an artifact harvester. Are these just people who collect an artifact while going about their business or are these people who scour zones looking for artifacts. I can't believe it's the latter.
    They could very well be raiders, pvpers, or any number of other thing as well. That single statement doesn't say they are doing a singular thing, just that it's the most common.

    You can slice it several ways and that's why such a large range is given. For instance, it could be people with X amount of artifact collections completed, it could be people who gather X amount of artifacts per day, week, or other time frame, or it could be people who actively activate their patron vial and/or quantum sight to find artifacts. It could also be any combo of those or something else. The range still fits.

    While it may be hard to believe, the data is the data. The data don't lie

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