Two simple questions

[Expletus]

I don't know if you missed it but the Zareph's portal is not even close to the exploit in question. It is the spawn camping and force respawning cycle that outside of exiting the game could not be avoided. The rewards gained were on the same level of unintended to what you describe.

Oh so sorry I didn't mention one of the "other exploits" you all complain about. However since we're on it... you could have easily backed up and escaped the onslaught. Again this was tested on the pts by players, and no preventative measures were set up to prevent it. In FPS (yes this obviously isn't a fps) in matches spawn camping is a method used everyday. To think it wouldn't happen in PVP is ignorant on your part.

After all, I can spawn camp you in black garden, codex, whitefall and scion... oh think I forgot library?? No I can camp you on the portals AND on the stairs.

[Bluebell]

Why are people so greedy on what a few other people got? They "exploited" (still debatable) to quickly increase and you missed out on it so now you're QQing because Trion doesn't want to take away the candy you didn't get to steal?

Personally I've never "exploited" this feature and you know what? I don't care if someone did. I really don't, and I can't understand how someone can feel so strongly about another person getting some pixels you didn't get.

Had this been a chase for world first end-raid boss I'd understood it, but its a bit of personal ranking and a few pieces of gear. And its being fixed now, so no bad person is gonna get ahead of you again...

[trinta]

does anyone understand the meaning of an exploit??

Of course!

Exploit: Anything I don't agree with or didn't get a chance to participate in.

[Fangthane]

This is just like the earlier changes to make it harder (even after the spawn camp fix) to earn Conquest Power (for player kills). Trion refuses to punish offenders, and devises solutions that only make it harder for non-offenders to close the gap.


And now, let's hear the cheater opinion on exploiting your way to unearned rewards and breaking the EULA without consequence...

2) Life isn't fair. Deal with it.

[Rickter]

I love made up numbers.

who said they were made up?

mmodata.net

lol, you guys. . .

[TheGrinnz]

Oh so sorry I didn't mention one of the "other exploits" you all complain about. However since we're on it... you could have easily backed up and escaped the onslaught. Again this was tested on the pts by players, and no preventative measures were set up to prevent it. In FPS (yes this obviously isn't a fps) in matches spawn camping is a method used everyday. To think it wouldn't happen in PVP is ignorant on your part.

After all, I can spawn camp you in black garden, codex, whitefall and scion... oh think I forgot library?? No I can camp you on the portals AND on the stairs.

LOL

Confirmed, you have no idea what the actual exploit was, here you go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQTxASurTMA

There is absolutely no way to "back up and escape" because you are dead before you finish loading your character. Every single other spawn camping case you mention requires the camped people to move forward and continue to participate in the game, these people were simply force respawned in the same spot they died and instantly killed by several AoEs.

It is by every definition an exploit of bad map design which was stated by a developer and then corrected, via mega-turrets.

It's been stated nothing will be done about it, so I'm not trying to belabor the issue. Just correcting misinformation.

[THRiLL KiLL]

i dont know about the changes as of today.

but i have been getting 40 t0 60k favor per a match.

no exploits. just good old fashion zerging.

[SanguineDeath]

1)
Why did you remove the ability for players to farm favor in Conquest which skyrocketed
players to P50 by giving extreme amounts of favor per run?.

2)
If it wasn't intended for players to reach the ridiculous amounts of favor in Conquest
and you decided to remove it, why haven't you punished / adjusted those who gained
from this unforeseen "feature" before it was fixed?.


Several players now are barely out of P40 while entire guilds who saw fit to exploit this unforeseen
feature, are P50 with full gear ripping through any resistance pre-50.


Here's an example for you Trion. If my bank accidentally puts 200milion $ on my bank,
and i decide to spend several millions on cars, boats and houses, the bank will remove all
that money and reclaim everything i bought.


So why haven't you corrected this issue with people rocketing to 50 full gear over a weekend
if you decided it was an unintended feature to level up that fast?.

Or do you think its fair to not punish those to exploited, while letting the people who didn't want
to take part in it, pay the price for not exploiting by getting slaughtered?.

I guess this kinds of reminds me of the whole debacle with those tokens for the horse and spider a while back during that other world event. Whether or not Trion will fix this - who knows... they didn't deem it important enough the last time so why should they bother now???

[Valfador]

god you guys are idiots bad game design does not = expliot

So abusing a flawed game design is not exploiting?

[Expletus]

LOL

Confirmed, you have no idea what the actual exploit was, here you go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQTxASurTMA

There is absolutely no way to "back up and escape" because you are dead before you finish loading your character. Every single other spawn camping case you mention requires the camped people to move forward and continue to participate in the game, these people were simply force respawned in the same spot they died and instantly killed by several AoEs.

It is by every definition an exploit of bad map design which was stated by a developer and then corrected, via mega-turrets.

It's been stated nothing will be done about it, so I'm not trying to belabor the issue. Just correcting misinformation.

Funny I was in the slaughter and I was fine to back up. Guess my SSD paid for itself.

Would like to point out one thing... bad map design is not an exploit. Exploiting bad map design ?? You make me laugh.

[TheGrinnz]

Funny I was in the slaughter and I was fine to back up. Guess my SSD paid for itself.

Would like to point out one thing... bad map design is not an exploit. Exploiting bad map design ?? You make me laugh.

Sorry but even with your mythical respawning you can't back out of the AoE before getting hit by 20 firestorms and 20 rain of arrows in one tick. You were not in the slaughter.

[Drigr]

Love internet arguments.

One side, its not an exploit, I will defend that point to the death no matter what you say

The other side, it is an exploit, I will defend that point to the death no matter what you say.

Trion, the only people that can settle the dispute, "let's continue sipping tea and just close the thread when it gets out of hand."

Which is smart for them, if they admit it was an exploit, they would have to punish the exploiters. If they admit it wasn't, they open the door for future game breaking flaws to be exploited without being able to punish people

[SanguineDeath]

Why are you guys getting on the OP's case. He was pointing out a valid exploit that ppl were abusing. Has this game gotten so old and stale that you all don't care anymore???

An exploit is still an exploit and that's the point they were making or is it ok, in your eyes, to sploit as long as it doesn't effect you because that seems to be the consensus here??

[Expletus]

I most def was in the slaughter and laughed when it happened. Did I think it was an exploit - no. Did I think it needed to be fixed, hell yes. I don't like the term exploit being thrown out so loosely such as you do. There is a difference between exploiting and playing the game/map w/in the set mechanics given by the developers. Again, it didn't start with spawn camping, it moved from Zephers first then to the spawn w/in days. It evolved.

[SanguineDeath]

god you guys are idiots bad game design does not = expliot

There have been too many of these "bad game designs" lately and Trions apparant apathy is most disturbing. One would almost think that they could care less if you sploit as long as you don't tell them which would mean extra work...