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    is when someone wants to force others to adapt to their playing style and want 0 to none alternatives for the ones that dont enjoy their same kinda of things.

    who falls into this category?

    the rabid world pvp players seems to be easier ones to be recognised when it comes from suffering from the play with me syndrome. they wanna have everyone play the way they want, they frown and whine when other server choices are given to players, cause they normally think. that all the potencial pvers or the ones who rather play with consensual pvp rules are easy victims that would escape out of their controll, they want you and our mothers to play with them at all cost . normally they are the most vocal and loud ones and are easy to be recognised among every major modern or older mmo forum.

    then we have the raiders, ubber elitist mega hardcore group. everyone needs to raid, raiding should be the final end game content, raiding should provide us with the best and only ultimate rewards, therefore anyone who isen't willing to work hard on it is viewed as a weak lazy type of gamer who wants all to be spoon fed to them. casuals normally become their worse nightmare and pvpers. they want to feel important for their achievements and want to be recognised and worshiped each time they show up in the town market place with their newly hard earned armor of the ancient fire dragon. this group is also among the most narcisist and elitist among the players. so iether raid and apply to my ubber hardcore raiding guild or you ll be a second class gamer!.

    then we have the group enforcers. this are the more insecure among the 3, to them is hard to understand someone wanna solo in a mmo and they normally view soloers as potential antisocials, so they would love that everyone should be required to group at all times, even to visit the nearby auction hall! is it perphaps they feel lonely?

    so do you think you also suffer from the play with me syndrome? why is it so hard to understand that not everyone is our clone nor that everyone desires or enjoy the samethings we do. therefore why do we wanna force others ?

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    How about the 'play for me' syndrome?

    The folks who ask to be 'boosted' through dungeons by high levels rather than actually forming up a group for it, makes me so

    I try to be as tolerant as possible of others playstyle. The people I respect the most in their playstyle are RPers, for mianly selfish reasons I admit, they add to my game experience and make it more immersive for me, but im just not an RPer myself.

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    is exactly what happened when we were in kindergarden. i think it comes from back then, you picked a doll or a baloon and then saw other kids doing different things, yet you wanted them to play with you,you wanted them to drop whatever they were doing and enjoy having a good time with your doll or red baloon. ofcourse you diden't think that perhaps they dident liked baloons or were scared of dolls? but you wanted them to play with you at all cost, so you went running to the teacher and with tears dropping from your face, told her . " other kids don't wanna play with me, please make them play with me with my doll and my baloon? this same analogy can easily be applied to mmo nowadays

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    Meh you forgot the hardkore krafters that want crafting to be so grindy that the average player would sooner have quintuple root canals than try to get the next level which would take 12,764 work orders to achieve /nod

    Instacombine crafting? ROFLCOPTERLOLZ... for newbs only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linolea View Post
    Meh you forgot the hardkore krafters that want crafting to be so grindy that the average player would sooner have quintuple root canals than try to get the next level which would take 12,764 work orders to achieve /nod

    Instacombine crafting? ROFLCOPTERLOLZ... for newbs only.
    And yet, if you make crafting an instant combine, you remove an aspect of game play that many others enjoy, even if you do not.

    We could always make all content easily soloable by all players. Crafting can be dummied down to City of Heroes level. No need for raiding since everything can be accomplished solo.

    At this point, you will have a game that is competitive with, say, Wizards 101, or maybe FreeRealms. Except even those games have group content. Maybe Hello Kitty online???? I know, Disney Fairies, this has exactly what you are looking for. No need to group, raid, or craft. You can play the entire game without ever having to interact with others. Of course, the entire point of that game IS social interaction.

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    < PvPer, doesn't like dolls or balloons and I don't care if you don't wanna play with me.

    I know who likes to PvP after game starts going, they easy to find. I like to PvE a lot too. So usually I am a person that has two different crowds I sometimes hang with. Least on the current game I do because PvP and PvErs are all on same server. There is no PvP server and no PvE server.

    I adjust to the server; seems every game has a different flavor of people.

    Most Likely to be: Defiant - Cleric Calling (PvP Server)

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    Idk what HC raider did you meet, but i realy dont think all of them act or think like this, the only reason why for HC vs casual hollywar is when start discusion about risk vs reward, HC players think that if they put more efforts then casual the reward should be grater than if you just done solo quest's or one grp dungeon's. I cant remember any situation, when I was in HC guild, to think like "Phh n00b's, damn casual's look at my shiny epigz armor!". And I realy cant remember any threads from HC players which request that everyone in game must be a raider.
    I mean, did you realy meet HC player who came to you and say "Go raid!" or "Not a raider? n00b ololo!"?
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    I think if you make enough much of a broad generalization you can fingerpoint every single playstyle to be guilty of similar acts, which obviously isn't an accurate statement. But I think it is rather unfair approach, since lets face it there are plenty of world PvP's, raiders and oldschoolers who don't want to force their own ideals upon other people. At the same time, you can find people from every playstyle with really extreme opinions on what should and should not be present in a game - but ultimately they are just one person and definitely do not represent the entire playstyle

    At the end of the day everyone has some form of opinions, expectations and hopes for their next possible MMO. Some inviduals are just more considerate of others when presenting theirs in threads (be it posting or replying) and some less or not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AyameArai View Post
    At the end of the day everyone has some form of opinions, expectations and hopes for their next possible MMO. Some inviduals are just more considerate of others when presenting theirs in threads (be it posting or replying) and some less or not at all.
    This pretty much sums it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadya3 View Post
    is when someone wants to force others to adapt to their playing style and want 0 to none alternatives for the ones that dont enjoy their same kinda of things.

    who falls into this category?

    the rabid world pvp players seems to be easier ones to be recognised when it comes from suffering from the play with me syndrome. they wanna have everyone play the way they want, they frown and whine when other server choices are given to players, cause they normally think. that all the potencial pvers or the ones who rather play with consensual pvp rules are easy victims that would escape out of their controll, they want you and our mothers to play with them at all cost . normally they are the most vocal and loud ones and are easy to be recognised among every major modern or older mmo forum.

    then we have the raiders, ubber elitist mega hardcore group. everyone needs to raid, raiding should be the final end game content, raiding should provide us with the best and only ultimate rewards, therefore anyone who isen't willing to work hard on it is viewed as a weak lazy type of gamer who wants all to be spoon fed to them. casuals normally become their worse nightmare and pvpers. they want to feel important for their achievements and want to be recognised and worshiped each time they show up in the town market place with their newly hard earned armor of the ancient fire dragon. this group is also among the most narcisist and elitist among the players. so iether raid and apply to my ubber hardcore raiding guild or you ll be a second class gamer!.

    then we have the group enforcers. this are the more insecure among the 3, to them is hard to understand someone wanna solo in a mmo and they normally view soloers as potential antisocials, so they would love that everyone should be required to group at all times, even to visit the nearby auction hall! is it perphaps they feel lonely?

    so do you think you also suffer from the play with me syndrome? why is it so hard to understand that not everyone is our clone nor that everyone desires or enjoy the samethings we do. therefore why do we wanna force others ?
    I dont think I've ever heard or read a PvP'er saying some such thing at all. The closest I would come is seeing PvP'ers asking for more content for World PvP instead of wrangling everyone into an instance. That my friend is not forcing someone to play your style.

    With that being said I agree with you about the raiders and group enforcers, I see that everyday people demanding their playstyle be the only way to play, they do this by shooting down ideas that would be beneficial to any other playstyle. On the other hand I would take it a step firther and add the solo player to this list, as quite a few of these types of players want loot and rewards to come poring thru like milk and honey with minimal effort and time.

    Lastly I must say why make this post? all it will add is heated and biased opinions and detract from these forums!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbringer View Post
    And yet, if you make crafting an instant combine, you remove an aspect of game play that many others enjoy, even if you do not.

    We could always make all content easily soloable by all players. Crafting can be dummied down to City of Heroes level. No need for raiding since everything can be accomplished solo.

    At this point, you will have a game that is competitive with, say, Wizards 101, or maybe FreeRealms. Except even those games have group content. Maybe Hello Kitty online???? I know, Disney Fairies, this has exactly what you are looking for. No need to group, raid, or craft. You can play the entire game without ever having to interact with others. Of course, the entire point of that game IS social interaction.
    Wooh totally forgot the craft or die crowd too, this is exactly the type of response that sums up all types of "Do my way" or no way crowd the OP was disgusted with. I am sorry but crafting as fun as it is, is and should never be the only type of gameplay a player can do. At least with that other crowds they are actually playing the game instead of some meta mini game. Crafting as the only way to advance is not a gamechoice Rift will take. There are ways to liven up the crafting meta game opening up for all but not making it so easy as to trivilize the leveling process.
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    Sheesh no one mentioned HC RP yet... if it doesn't take you half an hour to say hello then you aren't HC RP! One slip of character and it should be permadeath and loss of all shiny tea sets.

    Hmmm I think that's covered all the bases...

    *Edit* surprised Tinker hasn't slapped me upside the head >.>
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    Edit:

    Read more of the post ... *calm*...

    The OP is extremely biased. Which is not unexpected considering she/he is a known PVE elitist on this forum with very pro PVE views.

    World PVPers are hardly the most recognizable. All you see is PVPers going we want equality and then some PVE elitist telling us to **** off. How that is trying to force other players to our play style i don't know... As for server types i don't think I've ever seen it mentioned on these forums of PVPers being upset about a PVE servers? in fact many of us tellpotential PVP server players to go play on a PVE server b/c their play style wouldn't fit on it.
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    I really think he/ she is trying to ruffle some feathers and i'm trying not to bite on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expanse View Post
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    Read more of the post ... *calm*...

    The OP is extremely biased. Which is not unexpected considering she/he is a known PVE elitist on this forum with very pro PVE views.

    World PVPers are hardly the most recognizable. All you see is PVPers going we want equality and then some PVE elitist telling us to **** off. How that is trying to force other players to our play style i don't know... As for server types i don't think I've ever seen it mentioned on these forums of PVPers being upset about a PVE servers? in fact many of us tellpotential PVP server players to go play on a PVE server b/c their play style wouldn't fit on it.
    no he she is simply trying to get a debate about every form of forceful playing style!. I only listed a few examples. (the author is a she btw and proud) bottom line is, no matter what your preference is when it comes to mmo, we should always be open minded and willing to adknowledge that diversity exists in the planet and more so in the mmo gaming world. therefore people should be more tolerant about other playing styles. as long the devs allow us to play the way we like, iether by adding several ruleset servers or other means, we should be satisfied with it. even if it means not everyone else is gonna be playing in our chosen ruleset servers.

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