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Thread: Why do people keep saying PvP armor is BIS when it's not true?

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    Default Why do people keep saying PvP armor is BIS when it's not true?

    There is better gear inside HK, so the PvP armor clearly is NOT BIS.

    Yes, it is the easiest gear to get with simillar stats and yes, it is too easy to get the PvP armor.

    But either way, it was never really BIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luterin View Post
    There is better gear inside HK, so the PvP armor clearly is NOT BIS.

    Yes, it is the easiest gear to get with simillar stats and yes, it is too easy to get the PvP armor.

    But either way, it was never really BIS.
    They are idiots and can't clear the content in HK, so BiS becomes BAiS (Best Available in Slot)?
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    Dumb Question what is BIS ? Best in System? I totally missed the creation of this acronym :-(

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    LOL NM posted above while I was typing

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    So basically people whined about something that wasn't true to get it nerfed and succeeded, and now they are getting the thing they complained most about aswell, their own synergy crystal for T1 Raids.

    So no only did things get nerfed based on lies, the whiners also get boosted aswell.

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    Dont worry. If trion does anything like they have been doing HK will be nerfed to **** and cleared in one nite by 13 ppl. ITS SINKING ITS SINKING

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luterin View Post
    There is better gear inside HK, so the PvP armor clearly is NOT BIS.

    Yes, it is the easiest gear to get with simillar stats and yes, it is too easy to get the PvP armor.

    But either way, it was never really BIS.
    and yet you could skip several raid tiers by afcaving a few days of warfronts... which wasnt intended...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawksblood View Post
    Dumb Question what is BIS ? Best in System? I totally missed the creation of this acronym :-(
    best in slot. it refers to the best piece for a particular gear slot for a class/spec
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    you can not skip anything because if you only pvp and go in HK you will be missing a few HIT/FOCUS.

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    No what it was was people complaining that the PvP gear elminated the reason for PvE progression. r6 with synergy crystal was > than t1 raid and in actuallity one could argue the r8 stuff was legit BiS for Clerics.

    When Trion came out and said "PvP gear should be usuablke in raids but not better than PvE gear and vice versa" you have to look at it across all tiers you can't be myopic and just look at end game because for end game to work the progression to end game has to be maintained.

    People who get to end game (and yes I am one of them too) sometimes forget the importance of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luterin View Post
    So basically people whined about something that wasn't true to get it nerfed and succeeded, and now they are getting the thing they complained most about aswell, their own synergy crystal for T1 Raids.

    So no only did things get nerfed based on lies, the whiners also get boosted aswell.
    I believe you, but can you link me your source for this?

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    It's a whine really by people who like to min/max, that's all.

    Supposing there are 20 items that are BiS for someone's toon. An average raider will be happy collecting say, 13-15 of them just by doing what they like.. raiding.

    The min/maxer obsessive guy has to play Pokemon and "gotta catch em all!" Even at 18 pieces this guy wouldn't be happy. He's got to have the best trinket, rune and food around. When you put a few of these guys together, they make those guilds that squeeze every bit of DPS out of the gear.. for no reason at all. Except to say they did it first or better or faster or whatever.

    Most all bosses can be beaten with gear just going into the place to raid and good strategy/planning/play. The problem is these guys want to do it FIRST so they don't want to take what everyone else would do as normal progression so they go grind PvP for weeks even though he don't like it one bit, lol. Just strange.
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    To answer your question, it's the people that haven't been able to raid HK yet that say it's BiS. Where as it's only BaiS pre HK, because if you had 4 pieces of R8 armor plus the syngergy crystal for many roles it would be miles ahead of armor that is drop or the armor you can buy from the Raid Tier 1 merchant.
    Last edited by Riamu; 09-01-2011 at 10:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaddar View Post
    you can not skip anything because if you only pvp and go in HK you will be missing a few HIT/FOCUS.
    Lame argument

    Cleric healers can be Full PvP gear
    Dps only needs rings, gloves, 1 of 3 weapon slot and runes.

    Quit trying to be so anal. We all know some (not all) HK stuff is better, Its the point that you can skip all content up to HK by simple *** PvP system. Even if you don't count all the exploits, AFK'ing, and rewards for losing. It still took less than a month for you to get BiS PvP gear. What type of lame *** system is that.
    Last edited by Shuey; 09-01-2011 at 10:26 AM.

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    But Trion said it was BIS so are they lying?

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