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    If 50 chat is any indication of the mood of the player base, well on Dayblind people are pi&&ed off 10 to 1. Que times in WFs are double etc. Have fun playing on empty servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tufflove View Post
    If 50 chat is any indication of the mood of the player base, well on Dayblind people are pi&&ed off 10 to 1. Que times in WFs are double etc. Have fun playing on empty servers.
    I'm guessing the people that enter warfronts to afk are no longer queueing.
    They'll be back when we get r10/11.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grev View Post
    As long as they half the PvE set effects when used in PvP, i guess i can live with halved set-effects for PvP gear in PvE.
    Yep they're taking valor of all PvE gear. Wait what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanticist View Post
    I've seen about 50 people unsubscribing as of the discovery of the vengeance changes, and I believe this is the stupidest idea I've ever read/seen/heard.
    Wouldn't it be funny if fifty people all claimed to see fifty other people unsub from RIFT due to Vengeance in posts, and then they all realized it was the same fifty guys talking about each other.

    That would mean that only fifty people quit RIFT.


    On a serious note, keep complaining. Trion said they only do things if a bunch of customers want a change, not only if a few do it. So if you guys really don't like it and can get organized they'll have no choice but to change it because they said so.
    Last edited by Laughingstock; 08-31-2011 at 07:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tufflove View Post
    If 50 chat is any indication of the mood of the player base, well on Dayblind people are pi&&ed off 10 to 1. Que times in WFs are double etc. Have fun playing on empty servers.
    Can't deny that.

    But maybe mood will change when it goes live tomorrow and they see it's being overblown.

    I hope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlice View Post
    I'm guessing the people that enter warfronts to afk are no longer queueing.
    They'll be back when we get r10/11.
    Dayblind doesn't have afkers, they all got rolled back and quit.

    This is just the beginning of the stupid changes Trion will make.

    Waiting SWTOR, and D3. Hurry up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanticist View Post
    Dayblind doesn't have afkers, they all got rolled back and quit.

    This is just the beginning of the stupid changes Trion will make.
    How did MMO pvp ever become called pvp anyway? Should have been named Gear vs Gear seeing as most of you are more obsessed with having better gear than actually winning by merit against somebody. And then say you'll quit when anythings changed/proposed.

    It's an awesome change if it happens anyway. And trion are showing they got some balls if they do it.
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    Ahh nvm, I'ma stop qqing I just saw this.

    While we’re talking about itemization, we’re happy to confirm that Pre-Hammerknell PvE Synergy Crystals should make their debut in Update 1.5 – more details to come as we get closer to that update.
    Finally my full T3 will be at use. Fk PvP
    Last edited by Romanticist; 08-31-2011 at 07:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatorex View Post
    How did MMO pvp ever become called pvp anyway? Should have been named Gear vs Gear seeing as most of you are more obsessed with having better gear than actually winning by merit against somebody. And then say you'll quit when anythings changed/proposed.

    It's an awesome change if it happens anyway. And trion are showing they got some balls if they do it.
    Lol, obsessed with gear? You guys are so obsessed with gear you'll get other people's gear nerfed. Pot, meet kettle.

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    Uhh dude, level 50 is all about getting gear.
    You miss the point of the game.

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    The problem is this:
    Few days ago:
    DING R8 -> buy new gear
    remove T3 gear -> delete T3 gear
    Wear R8 gear
    Go to HK for raid.

    Near Future:
    R8 gear now is vengence based...
    DPS goes to hell
    T3 is > than R8 gear
    Farm T3 gear all over again... in a HK raiding guild (not so easy)
    HK progression stops because of poorly thought-out change.

    I guess this is one way to get PvPers to stop raiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanticist View Post
    Uhh dude, level 50 is all about getting gear.
    You miss the point of the game.
    Yeah and you completely miss the point of what PVP is. MMOs have ****ed up pvp entirely and its about time it was brought back down to player vs player skills instead of who has the best gear. Hopefully Trion will actually make steps towards this in the future instead of catering for the *gief rewardzz* kids that wreck game development for everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanticist View Post
    Champion responses.
    This was a failure on Trions part to implement better PvP instead of releasing it and making it BiS.
    Now that everyone had grinded to p8 and is in the limelight after painstaking hours of grinding.
    They take it away.

    I hate pvping, I simply did it to increase my dps.
    And Trion's failure to introduce vengeance before r8 patch is appalling.

    -Time Wasted.

    I myself was 1 shotted at lower ranks in pvp myself, I agree with the buffs, but not with everything else.
    Logically upgrading your gear and grinding favor was to get better equipment for PvP.
    Now its just all the same.

    Someone who grinded for months on PvP versus someone who joins in PvP and gets full stats because of the patch. Seems unfair and unreasonable.
    You seem upset. Why are you upset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatorex View Post
    Yeah and you completely miss the point of what PVP is. MMOs have ****ed up pvp entirely and its about time it was brought back down to player vs player skills instead of who has the best gear. Hopefully Trion will actually make steps towards this in the future instead of catering for the *gief rewardzz* kids that wreck game development for everyone else.
    I didn't disagree with the buffing up of lower prestige. I'm saying this is the tip of iceberg.
    If they wanted to make player vs player skill, they should of made separate warfronts based on gear.
    Instead of roundaboutly making everyone grind to p8 for the BiS p8 gear then suddenly saying Nerf Nerf Nerf.

    But seeing as they're going to introduce pre-HK synergy crystals I'm fine with that.
    I don't like this broken PvP anyway. Never have never will.
    PvP was just about getting the Codex Trinket and Synergy Crystal bonuses for better DPS in Raids.
    Nothing more, nothing less.
    Last edited by Romanticist; 08-31-2011 at 07:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatorex View Post
    Yeah and you completely miss the point of what PVP is. MMOs have ****ed up pvp entirely and its about time it was brought back down to player vs player skills instead of who has the best gear. Hopefully Trion will actually make steps towards this in the future instead of catering for the *gief rewardzz* kids that wreck game development for everyone else.
    Good point. Let's get rid of gear in both PvE and PvP. You guys get the thrill of doing HK naked and still failing, we get the thrill of knowing we know longer have to keep up with gear>all Joneses in PvP.

    Win/win, as they say.

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