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Thread: So when is Hammerknell gear going to take a nerf so it cant be used in PvP?

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    Default So when is Hammerknell gear going to take a nerf so it cant be used in PvP?

    Since you nerfed pvp gear to the dirt again, Pvers will be sporting their hammerknell relics in wfs again. What Trion will you do aboutthis? Im guessing nothing since this nerf to gear shows you care little for pvpers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Hellfire View Post
    Since you nerfed pvp gear to the dirt again, Pvers will be sporting their hammerknell relics in wfs again. What Trion will you do aboutthis? Im guessing nothing since this nerf to gear shows you care little for pvpers.
    The PvP gear is still better for PvP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Hellfire View Post
    Since you nerfed pvp gear to the dirt again, Pvers will be sporting their hammerknell relics in wfs again. What Trion will you do aboutthis? Im guessing nothing since this nerf to gear shows you care little for pvpers.
    Right because SOOO many people are clearing Hammerknell. This is a HUGE issue.

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    Yep, NOTHING done about the hit on weapons yet. HK weapons still BIS for all classes in both PVE and PVP.

    I Still have no idea why people are complaining about players using PVP gear in PVE. Their raids get better and they whine and cry. OMG!! Let's spend 3 months longer attempting to clear content instead of getting it over with.


    So now we get a system where EVERYONE gets max valor right away. Which means they can just remove it all together. I was Server first rogue to PR8. Two others in our 5-man pvp group were server first cleric and warrior. Now with this crap going on we are looking at just tossing in the towel and leaving this. When you get right down to it, there is literally nothing left to have fun doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuey View Post
    The PvP gear is still better for PvP.
    Trolls don't listen to reason or logic, remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptFailure View Post
    Trolls don't listen to reason or logic, remember?
    What part of relic weapons being BiS for pvp do you not comprehend?

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    It kinda makes sense that the best gear is in the hardest place. Doesn't it?

    How would you change it? Add more vengeance to the pvp gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Hellfire View Post
    What part of relic weapons being BiS for pvp do you not comprehend?
    What part of 1% of the population having HK relics do you not understand?
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    Many have quitted, they are lost almost half of the servers they started. I hop in next MMO for sure. Rift is awesome game but PVP is just crap.
    Lol really now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demise42 View Post
    Right because SOOO many people are clearing Hammerknell. This is a HUGE issue.
    When people have cleared HK and they will it will become a big issue if they are going to nerf pvp in pve fine then nerf pve in pvp.

    eg 1 vengeance = 1 ap/sp in pvp only

    1 divine power = 1 ap/sp in pve only

    nerf them both make it fair

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    Its not going to be fair when the ***** made devs are just as bad as the wannabe raiders that play rift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongus View Post
    What part of 1% of the population having HK relics do you not understand?
    I would not even say 1% tbh lol at op

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongus View Post
    What part of 1% of the population having HK relics do you not understand?
    I don't think anyone has a HK relic weapon yet, so make that 0%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphina View Post
    I don't think anyone has a HK relic weapon yet, so make that 0%.
    So much for Hellfire's imaginary army of rank1 warriors with HK relics tearing him up in pvp =p
    Quote Originally Posted by June View Post
    Many have quitted, they are lost almost half of the servers they started. I hop in next MMO for sure. Rift is awesome game but PVP is just crap.
    Lol really now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruwyn View Post
    So now we get a system where EVERYONE gets max valor right away. Which means they can just remove it all together. I was Server first rogue to PR8.
    I find it hilarious that people keep making this argument to remove valor altogether since everyone will have the same amount. I mean, you do realize that our abilities are primarily adjusted around PvE right? Meaning that ability damage is adjusted and scales to PvE, so that the required amount of DPS can be reached in PvE, as PvE progresses. What this means is, that if the damage reduction in PvP (which is valor) were removed, the amount of damage our abilities would do to players would be so much that people would die too fast, since our hit pools are what 6k, 8k 12k for tanks, compared to PvE bosses who have 1M hit points. Why do you think a P8 player can just utterly destroy 3,4,5 undergeared players by themselves? It is because undergeared players hp is slightly lower, AND they are taking 30-45% more damage than other P8 geared players.

    So if you want to argue removing valor altogether, it is kind of important to know that there needs to be a damage reduction for PvP. Valor could be removed, and damage reduction just be blanketed across all PvP. But if they did this, PvE gear would then be best for PvP, since it would have better stats. So really, you cant remove valor even though everyone has the same amount, or else you ruin game balance, and remove the separation between pve gear and pvp gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandOfGodz View Post
    When people have cleared HK and they will it will become a big issue if they are going to nerf pvp in pve fine then nerf pve in pvp.

    eg 1 vengeance = 1 ap/sp in pvp only

    1 divine power = 1 ap/sp in pve only

    nerf them both make it fair
    They both dont need to be nerfed though. PvE gear has no valor, with comparable dps stats to PvP gear. Thus, PvP gear is already WAY better than PvE gear for PvP. Except for weapons. Easy fix, put valor on PvP weapons.
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