"YES! After 299 rifts I finally got a mount drop! Hey, I see you have one too, how many rifts did it take you?"
"None, I solo'd the cash store."
And who said anything about gateway drugs? It's a slippery slope argument not a gateway drug argument
Last edited by Landru; 08-08-2011 at 06:11 PM.
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant
I don't see how allowing an item is going down a slope really. There is no causal relationship here that's been proven in all the mmos out that buying fluff/cosmetic items leads to "Play to Win".
How does it devalue or cheapen what you did through questing?
The gateway drug reference is the argument that once you allow one thing, it will lead to other things.
Last edited by Laughingstock; 08-08-2011 at 06:27 PM.
Oh that Murdantix. I was looking at the last boss of a death rift on my own. He was elite and I knew I couldn't take him alone. Guardian shows up and does /say can u send ur pet and we try to get him down please? Yeah I said and sent pet in. Pet got owned hard. Quick pet res and back in, boss dude down. Guardian thanked me and I him, headed back to the portal to Meridian. Oh yeah, loot bag, let's have a look then eh? Swift murdantix spawn. I nearly choked on a cheerio! I love the randomness of this game at times. Not that any of this helps the OP but I reckon if u keep running the instance for the mount you will get it.
im sorry but no. if rift implements a cash store like everquest did, i am so effin out of here.
Last edited by Bellamorte; 08-08-2011 at 06:32 PM.
Why can't we buy Hammerknell gear?
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Oh you are kidding right? Haven't these QQ threads finished yet. Go cry quietly to yourself in the corner and get over it. A random rare drop is exactly that.
Here's the thing, and this is a very sad, real possibility. Once ToR comes out, Rift is going to be the one being sent to the bottom of the ocean, not WoW. Yes, WoW will take a big hit, but Rift is going to get annihilated.
Once ToR comes out and people start to leave, you can bet Micro-Transactions will be presented. Fact is, Micro-Transactions make money, hand over fist.
Once Rift is on Life Support, be prepared to log into the Trion Store.
If you look at most AAA mmos, most of them have something you can buy in some form. New name change, new server, new race, new orientation, new clothes, new mounts, new pets, etc etc etc.
It's just smart business to put a cash shop in your mmo. Period. It brings in extra revenue (sometimes many more times the amount of someone's actual monthly sub) and it gives customers what they want... choices and options. After all, this IS a business for Trion.. not a Epeen Altrustic Game to make some people feel better. They are trying to make a buck.
I don't use cash shops often but I can understand why a lot would. What I don't understand is when it comes to items that aren't "Pay to Win" and offer NO advantage in the game, why someone would care what someone else's gaming experience entails that makes them unhappy.
I honestly don't worry about a guy/gal who has spent $200 in a cash shop on different skinnable pets. If I like the mmo I'm playing, I'm actually glad he/she did that.
That $200 represents money going into the game that can be put into development instead of.. 0.
Last edited by Laughingstock; 08-08-2011 at 06:49 PM.
overwhelmingly against it.
So this will still be another way for Rift to set itself apart even after TOR releases. Trion will do what they feel like they have to do, but I hope they are listening to their community that contains (based on this thread) a significant population of F2P refugees.
It's true that Rift's system of grinds, extremely hard-to-obtain items, and high plat costs almost looks like a setup for MT's. We could even see it this fall, much less after TOR releases.
From all the writeup's I have read and beta players I dont believe it going to be all its hyped up to anyway.
GW2 on the other hand is a concern, same target audience and pvp seems like its going to be more balanced...
I doubt after anyone played RIFT and then went to SWTOR, they'd think "Bleh, this is just like RIFT." At least from the videos and gameplay I saw.
The game is buy it, play it for free.. forever.
If someone truly liked RIFT, they could sub for as little as under $9 bucks a month (with plan) and still play GW2 all they like.... free.
Last edited by Laughingstock; 08-08-2011 at 06:55 PM.
The evaluation and cheapening argument doesn't come from simple questing. It comes from the big grinds--like a hard faction grind where the faction horse is sold in store for $10 as an alternative. The rewards for doing the work all of the sudden don't mean anything, so there is less reason to actually want to play and achieve something.
Last edited by Silverangel69; 08-08-2011 at 07:28 PM.