What other MMO company would admit they made a mistake ? Big props to Trion, keep it honest and you will have me as a customer for a long time to come.
The fact remains that the problem wasn't nearly as widespread as people here made it out to be. 1%? Yeah that's still frighteningly high, but is does mean that for every 1 person whining about being hacked, 99 people weren't. It was scaremongering, plain and simple, and people even mocked up fake information to "prove" their point. So yeah the "omg it's trions fault u gyze!!1" camp isn't exactly totally innocent here.
So were we wrong to blame the user? In some cases, yes. But even in the cases where the vulnerability may have been the culprit, the reports of personal information and even credit card data being leaked were pure hyperbolic BS.
So both sides have a lesson to learn here.
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Well, they turned out to be, but... They were right that there was a security breach of some sort, and it's not unreasonable to worry about personal information getting out if you know there's a security breach and don't know what it is.So were we wrong to blame the user? In some cases, yes. But even in the cases where the vulnerability may have been the culprit, the reports of personal information and even credit card data being leaked were pure hyperbolic BS.
Basically, for the same reason it's never a good idea to say "hah, my computer is 100% secure", it's never a good reason to say "hah, Trion's computers are 100% secure". Everything has holes, we just don't know where some of them are yet...
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Of course they were. The people saying that there was clearly an exploit which accounted for many of the attacks were completely right.And the vulnerability didn't account for 100% of the issues, so neither side were completely right or wrong.
No one said all of the attacks were because of the vulnerability. That would be silly.
I share this worry with you. It's really hard to get people to take security seriously to begin with.True, and the fact that even Trion, who undoubtedly have people dedicated to watching over their network, had a vulnerability should merely reinforce the notion that we should all take responsibility for our security. My worry is that people are going to see this and then assume they are safe and not for a second re-evaluate their own security.
They should also have a yearly ingame celebration for ManWitDaPlan and make it somewhat humorous. Trion writers get paid to do this stuff, I'm sure they could come up with something to honor him in-game.
How hard would it be to make an in-game statue of him with a small story about how he selflessly saved us all.
That's exactly what a hacker would say...
Yea actually i know i didn't post on the forums for the whole time even after i was hacked because i didn't want the ridicule. I did all the scans and such changed email and passwords didn't even find so much as a cookie on my gaming computer. Well just wanted to say thanks to Trion for saying they had a problem and MWDP for finding it.
Eight days and counting hoping i hear from customer service soon.
So now that Trion has admitted that there was a problem on their side, what is to be done for players who got hacked?
Two of my guildies were hacked and have been in queue for 8 days to get their characters restored. They have been told specifically by CS to not play their characters until they are fixed. I think Trion should reimburse these players with 8 days free gametime, or however many days it takes to restore the characters.
Well, maybe some did not in the past, but as far as I know, WoW for example never had such a major security hole in its 7 years of existence, so stop calling other gamemakers out, without having any proof of their past misdoings. It just makes you look like a fanboy with very thick pink glasses, that uses even that epic fail of Trion, having such a big bug in their primary authentication process, to flame other MMOs and their creators.