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    Default 61 Para 10 WL 5 Temp

    I have been told that this spec already exists in these forums but for the life of me I cannot find it. If anyone can link it so props can be given, it would be greatly appreciated.

    I am sure there are other more complicated specs out there that do better dps but as far as simplicity, this spec parses equal, if not higher than the 10 champ equivalent while having better survivability. The following rotation has both the simple 2 button spam & the 100% DJ uptime. Feel free to pick it to pieces.

    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree#8gw/3kllayGGGli/Vg

    Buffs:
    Unleashed
    Way of the River
    Way of the Wind
    Alacrity
    Focus of Body
    Strike Like Iron
    Enhanced Conductivity
    Recovery Posture

    Paragon Crystal


    Macros:


    Charge
    #show Thread the Trees
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising waterfall
    cast Reaping Harvest
    cast Thread the Trees

    Spam
    #show Death Touch
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising waterfall
    cast Reaping harvest
    cast Death Touch
    cast Swift Strike
    cast Shock Pulse
    cast Shield of Will

    SB
    #show Shifting blades
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Open the Stream
    cast Shifting blades
    cast Setting Moon

    AoE
    #show Rising Waterfall
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising waterfall
    cast Sweeping Blades
    cast Swift Strike

    B-2 (optional)
    #show Rising Waterfall
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising waterfall
    cast Reaping Harvest
    cast Swift Strike

    On Their Own
    Skyfall
    Grasping the Horizon
    Flurry
    Combat Focus
    Sweeping Blades

    ST Rotation:
    Opener: Spam Charge macro until all attack points are spent
    SB x3
    Spam x3 (4 times)

    note: For a more min/max rotation, use this rotation & add in the optional B-2 macro for 100% DJ uptime
    Opener: Spam Charge macro until all attack points are spent
    SB x3
    B-2 x3
    Spam x3 (3 times)


    When energy starved
    Flurry, walk back a little then spam the Charge macro until all attack points are spent (will only need this if Living Energy or Fervor are not active)

    During disconnects
    Hit Grasping the Horizon & continue rotation then after 10-13s hit Flurry & finish with Skyfall. If still away from target, Combat Focus then Skyfall, Spam macro x 3 (Shock Pulse) then Skyfall. Use the Charge macro to return to target & spam it until all attack points are spent. Start rotation again.

    Don't worry if you get out of sync, the Spam macro with eventually reset itself.

    AoE Rotation:
    Spam AoE macro until all attack points are spent
    Spam SB Macro until all attack points are spent
    Spam B-2 macro until all attack points are spent
    Spam macro x 2
    Rinse & repeat
    Last edited by Necrotique; 09-25-2013 at 06:51 AM.
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    I believe it was Thag that mentioned this 10 Warlord variant. Was told after I posted the guide on my guilds forums .. props!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotique View Post
    ST Rotation:
    Opener: Spam Charge macro until all attack points are spent
    SB x3
    Spam x3 (4 times)

    note: For a more min/max rotation, use this rotation & add in the optional B-2 macro for 100% DJ uptime
    Opener: Spam Charge macro until all attack points are spent
    SB x3
    B-2 x3
    Spam x3 (3 times)
    First rotation:
    TtT > RW > RH (Opener)
    ---
    SM > OtS > SB (SBx3)
    DT > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    SS > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    SS > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    SS > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    SM > OtS > SB (SBx3)
    DT > RW > RH (Spamx3) *No Double Jeopardy
    SS > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    SS > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    SS > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    ...

    Second Rotation:
    TtT > RW > RH (Opener)
    ---
    SM > OtS > SB (SBx3)
    SS > RW > RH (B-2x3) *Buffing SS with SB instead of DT with SB
    DT > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    SS > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    SS > RW > RH (Spamx3)
    ...

    ~
    Unless I am reading your macros incorrectly, that is what would happen.

    A better rotation would be (to keep up DJ 100%):

    TtT (Separate Key)
    SM > RW > RH (M1)
    ---
    SS > OtS > SB (SB)
    DT > RW > RH (Spam)
    SS > RW > RH (Spam)
    SS > RW > RH (Spam)
    SM > RW > RH (M1)
    --- [Repeat]

    To accommodate that into your macros:

    1. Put TtT on its separate key
    2. Make M1 macro (with SM > RW > RH)
    3. Remove SM from SB macro and add SS
    4. Spam macro stays the same

    The button quantity stays the same (TtT by itself replaces the charge macro and M1 replaces your B-2 macro) and you should see better results

    Hope it helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotique View Post
    I believe it was Thag that mentioned this 10 Warlord variant. Was told after I posted the guide on my guilds forums .. props!!
    Thag was the one who brought forth the discussion with respect to the variant.
    Last edited by Solaxys; 09-25-2013 at 07:29 AM.

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    Ty Solaxys that is very helpful

    The reason I have TtT in a macro is to wipe the slate clean after a charge & as TtT procs DJ, I thought it was an obvious choice. Any reason to not do that?

    Your ability placement in the macro's make perfect sense & I will adjust. Awesome input, it will help a lot. TY again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotique View Post
    The reason I have TtT in a macro is to wipe the slate clean after a charge & as TtT procs DJ, I thought it was an obvious choice. Any reason to not do that?
    It isn't wrong; you can keep the charge macro if you wish and do
    TtT > RW > RH
    SM > RW > RH
    as an opener before heading into the SB Cycle.

    In fact, that would net you 3 Readiness stacks by the time you do hit SB+ and you'd still have 100% DJ.

    I prefer to get to the SB cycle faster (burst; and sometimes charge isn't always a great option - Regulos etc...), so I eat the AP gained by TtT or not include it at all based on the fight (but again, that is just me).

    Also, there might be a use for Flurry - have yet to be determined; so the optimal rotation might change.
    Last edited by Solaxys; 09-25-2013 at 07:48 AM.

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    So to get this right in my head, which at 2am is tough, without a charge at all (like Regie), your rotation would be ...
    M-1
    SB
    Spam x 3
    or are you saying without a charge, you would start at SB 1st & have the M-1 at the end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotique View Post
    So to get this right in my head, which at 2am is tough, without a charge at all (like Regie), your rotation would be ...
    M-1
    SB
    Spam x 3
    or are you saying without a charge, you would start at SB 1st & have the M-1 at the end?
    Without a charge, I'd pop Grasping the Horizon and M1 > SB > Spam x 3.
    You'd just lose DJ on the first RW.

    If you can't get to melee range (which never is the case, but who knows) before the first Spam macro time, then you use CF>RH instead of DT.

    In effect I am saying, the charge by itself is fine or you can do a full TtT > RW > RH.
    Last edited by Solaxys; 09-25-2013 at 07:54 AM.

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    Brilliant .. ty so much!
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    Thanks for posting this, Necrotique and Solaxys. This is a great starting point for someone getting used to Paragon, and very helpful!

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    Changes to the above macro's & rotation

    SB
    #show Shifting blades
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Open the Stream
    cast Shifting Blades
    cast Swift Strike

    M-1
    #show Rising Waterfall
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising waterfall
    cast Reaping Harvest
    cast Setting Moon

    ST Rotation:
    Opener: Spam Charge macro until all attack points are spent
    M-1 x3
    SB x3
    Spam x3 (3 times)
    Rinse & Repeat

    AoE Rotation:
    Spam AoE macro until all attack points are spent
    Spam M-1 macro until all attack points are spent
    Spam SB Macro until all attack points are spent
    Spam macro x 3 (2 times)
    Rinse & repeat.


    Thanks to Solaxys for the fine tuning. I've tested this in raid & on dummies. It works fine & scales great with raid buffs.
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    Well damn. Changed to this spec, changed my macros and continued to pull the same DPS I was with half the effort/keybinds. This is excellent

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    Don't put finishers in your builder macros - you will just complicate things by trying to make them easier. You'll definitely fire 2pt-finishers with this setup from time to time, especially after using CF+RH or right after disconnects.

    The 10-WL-spec is easy enough to use one extra key for your two finishers packed together to be on the safe side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhaze View Post
    Don't put finishers in your builder macros - you will just complicate things by trying to make them easier. You'll definitely fire 2pt-finishers with this setup from time to time, especially after using CF+RH or right after disconnects.

    The 10-WL-spec is easy enough to use one extra key for your two finishers packed together to be on the safe side.
    Not sure I see a reason to use CF+RH ever since they added Grasping the Horizon. Honestly, if a 2pt finisher once or twice on accident during the course of the fight is the difference between an enrage or not, the group has bigger problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverwhere2012 View Post
    Not sure I see a reason to use CF+RH ever since they added Grasping the Horizon. Honestly, if a 2pt finisher once or twice on accident during the course of the fight is the difference between an enrage or not, the group has bigger problems.
    Problems like the entire raid playing sub-par specs for the sake of ease of use? Here's the punch line to this joke of a rotation. Why use more than 1 macro?

    #show Rising Waterfall
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast [ctrl] Setting Moon
    cast Combat Focus
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising waterfall
    cast Shifting Blades
    cast Reaping Harvest
    cast Swift Strike
    cast Setting Moon
    cast Grasping the Horizon
    cast Flurry
    cast Skyfall
    /yell I'm a noob
    /gquit
    Last edited by Takatoraa; 09-27-2013 at 09:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takatoraa View Post
    Problems like the entire raid playing sub-par specs for the sake of ease of use? Here's the punch line to this joke of a rotation. Why use more than 1 macro?

    #show Rising Waterfall
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast [ctrl] Setting Moon
    cast Combat Focus
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising waterfall
    cast Shifting Blades
    cast Reaping Harvest
    cast Swift Strike
    cast Setting Moon
    cast Grasping the Horizon
    cast Flurry
    cast Skyfall
    /yell I'm a noob
    /gquit
    Actually, that's a great idea putting Grasping the Horizon at the bottom of macros for disconnects.

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