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    Default Mighty Paragon Full Guide for 61/13/2(10/5) by Seppy

    Mighty Paragon Guide 2.2 61 Paragon/ 13 Riftblade/ 2 Tempest

    By Seppy - Warrior of Icewatch


    Table of contents:


    First words:
    1.1 - Introduction
    1.2 - FAQ


    Preperation:
    2.1 - Spec
    2.2 - Skill Explanation
    2.3 - Macros
    2.4 - Toggle Buffs
    2.5 - Gear
    2.6 - Core items/Essences


    Rotations Cycles/Explanations:
    3.1 - Single Target Rotation Cycle
    3.2 - Another rotation
    3.3 - Monitor
    3.4 - Parses
    3.5 - Where to use


    Last words
    4.1 - History
    4.2 - Credits


    1.1 - Introduction:

    Firstly, i dont consider myself much of a theorycrafter or something. From the early 2012 though, when i decided to play Rift, i always followed the top builds from Val's RW to Steelwind and Shun. Paragon was my favourite soul. Since the last hotfix (8), i puted the effort to parse as high as i could. So, 13rb/2Temp parsed for me slighlty better than 10/5 variation, and to be honest theres no big difference, unless someone is extreme min-maxer. Please feel free to post questions, feedback or contact me.


    1.2 - FAQ:



    Q: What is the best parsing Single Target DPS Spec?
    A: If done correctly, this spec will parse the highest (some fights being an exception).

    Q: What is the best parsing AOE DPS Spec?
    A: 61 Paragon is a pure single target spec. Best parsing AOE DPS spec is 61 Champion.

    Q: What crystal should i use and what if i have 2/4 or 3/4 set?
    A: Paragon crystal obviously and the rotation is same. Be prepared for 400 dps or more loss.

    Q: Is it a hard spec?
    A: It isnt recommended for new players but if will put the effort and practice alot it will pay off.

    Q: Too many skills/buttons, the fk?
    A: I dont use many macro's, but i will provide some of them to help out.

    Q: Why to play Paragon when i have my Riftblade which does everything?
    A: Noone forces anyone to "use" specific spec. If you feel Rb is more fun, go for it.

    Q: Should I keep Rising Waterfall on its own key or can use it in the same Macro with other skills and how much DPS will I lose from doing this?
    A: RW can be macro'ed with any skill you like. No DPS loss.

    Q: What to do if disconnect?
    A: Learn the fight. If it has small disconnects, you have flamespear/Shock pulse/Sli/3 finishers. If ranged prefered, use Riftblade or Tempest.

    Q: Boss casts blind/boss casts red **** on the ground, how i get back to the fight without loosing the rotation?
    A: Use your brain, learn the rotation, have your eyes open, use Karuul.

    Q: Energy issues?
    A: yes there are, thats why you have Flurry, which is a dps loss. If you wont use Flurry often, Dps is even higher.

    Q: VoJ or not?
    A: Hard to answer, in my guild we never run Voj. It could help the dps with the energy it gives, no idea how much.

    Q: Crit Power or not?
    A: Paragon loves CP, stack as much as you can.

    Q: What if remove Reaping Harvest totally and use only FB/IB?
    A: I would not recommend it cause its more energy starved, also SB+reaping hurts alot more.

    Q: Fliching? why?
    A: Free dps when you have enough energy. NOT recommended when a fight needs interupt.

    Q: 10rb/5tempest vs 13rb/2tempest rotations are same?
    A: Yes



    2.1 - 61 Paragon/ 13 Riftblade/ 2 Tempest

    Build: http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree#2gG4/3kllayGGGli/Vq


    2.2 - Skill Explanations

    RW= Rising Waterfall. Follow up skill. No cooldown.
    SS=Swift Strike. procs RW and Weapon Familiarity. No cooldown
    Flich=Fliching Strike. Interupts.Ogcd. Also used to boost dps at certain times. CD 8 sec.
    DT=Death Touch. Procs RW and paragon crystal. CD 30 sec.
    SP= Shock Pulse. Procs RW and Amped. No cooldown
    FS= Flamespear. 15 sec Dot. Procs RW. CD 4sec.
    OtS= Open the stream. Follow up skill. Usually used after Seting Moon. No cooldown.
    SM= Setting Moon. +20% dmg to follow ups for 15 sec. No cooldown.
    SLI=Strike like Iron.Finisher. Flat % dmg increase for 1min. No cooldown.
    SB= Shifting Blades.Finisher. Increases the dmg of next 3 attacks. No cooldown.
    RH= Reaping Harvest. Finisher. No cooldown.
    FB= Fiery Burst. Finisher. CD 15 sec.
    IB= Icy Burst.Finisher. No cooldown.
    TtT= Thread the trees. Charge.
    CF=Combat Focus. Gives 3 attack points.CD 30 sec.
    Fy= Flurry. 6 channel. used to replenish energy. CD 30 sec.
    FiB= Fibal Blessing. Follow up skill. Used instead of RW when enemy <30%. Hits harder than RW>
    Skyfall= Ranged finisher. No cooldown.


    2.3 - Macros:

    The macros i use:

    Burst Macro:
    #show Fiery Burst
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Fiery Burst
    cast Icy Burst

    FiB Macro:
    #show Final Blessing
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising Waterfall

    Fliching Macro:
    #show Final Blessing
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Fliching Strike
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising Waterfall

    Rest own key.


    Macros used by friends (Ervun):

    "Setting Moon/Open the Stream:

    #show Setting Moon
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Open the Stream
    cast Setting Moon

    Flame Spear

    #show Flamespear
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising Waterfall
    cast Flamespear

    Reaping Harvest (Could be on it's own too this is just to cram aoe in. Also can add Shield of Will in if you don't consider a 4k shield to be worth micromanaging but it hurts power stability.)

    #show Reaping Harvest
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast [shift] Sweeping Blades
    cast Reaping Harvest
    cast Turn the Blade

    Combat Focus/Death Touch (Works just fine as long as you don't fire the other thing by accident, in other words don't continue spamming it after you get the wanted result. If you do you'll fire DT after RH or 1 point RH after DT.)

    #show Combat Focus
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Combat Focus
    cast Reaping Harvest
    cast Death Touch

    Shifting Blades and Strike Like Iron on their own. Also got Death Touch on it's own just in case I want to use it over combat focus + rh for some reason, as the macro makes it so cf/rh is used first if CF is ready. "

    Macros used by friends(Dementic):

    #show open the stream
    cast Open the Stream
    cast setting moon

    ^Do not put shifting blades in there because it costs less than Open the Stream and will clip at low energy.

    #show Rising Waterfall (Can be whatever)
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising Waterfall
    cast reaping harvest
    cast swift strike
    cast shock pulse

    #show Combat Focus
    cast Combat Focus
    cast reaping harvest

    #show Shifting Blades
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising Waterfall
    cast shifting blades
    cast reaping harvest
    cast flamespear
    cast death touch

    1-2-3-1 to get off death touch. This saves a key but requires further muscle memory.

    The macros look weird but they all work."


    2.4 - Toggle Buffs:

    Alacrity= reduces global cooldown by 0.5 sec. Reduces power cost of abilities by 30%.
    Way of The River= increases Physical crit 3%.
    Way of The Wind= adds dmg to follow up attacks.
    Unleashed= up to 5 stacks. each stack attack power and wepon contribution by 3%.
    Stoem Blade=Ticks Air dmg
    Avatar of the Wind= +3% dodge +10% movment speed
    Focus of the Body= +70 str
    Enhanced Conductivity= +2% non physical dmg from hits for 15 sec.


    2.5 - Gear

    Gear http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...412171956.jpg/

    2.6 - Core Items/Essences

    Well, this isnt D3 or some sort, but some items will really help you to this.
    A) Crafted Chest/Neck/Rings/Pants/Helm with Stellar Barbaric Augment (CP+AP)
    B) Drops
    http://www.riftscene.com/database/it...unholy-frenzy/ from EE1
    http://www.rifthead.com/item/9AECF2D...rs-warstompers from EE1
    http://www.rifthead.com/item/A3D297E...s-of-frostbite from FT1

    These 3 drops are relative easy to get and are best in slot even above relics.

    C) Essences suggested
    http://www.rifthead.com/item/8F88A3E...owing-ebonseed from DRR life
    http://www.rifthead.com/item/9FCB918...ckest-ebonseed from DRR life
    http://www.rifthead.com/item/8C88BAE...rkers-lifewood from Lycini reputation
    Also Death's Bane essence from Torvan reputation



    3.1 - Single Target Rotation Cycle:

    In my mind, have it divided into 2 cycles. "Burst" and "proc" cycle.

    Opening (whatever the ap at this point): SP>Charge>(rw)>SLI

    Procs:SM>OtS>SB
    FS>RW*>RH*
    DT*>RW (fliching>RW)> FB

    Bursts: SP>RW>IB
    (after the IB above, you can use full Flurry if energy ~15-20 which skipp the 2 ss>rw>ib below)
    SS>RW>IB
    SS>RW>IB

    Procs: SM>OtS>SB
    FS>RW*>RH*
    CF>RH*
    SP>RW>FB
    (after FB you can use full Flurry if energy ~15-20 which skipp the 3 ss>rw>ib below)

    Bursts: SS>RW>IB
    SS>RW>IB
    SS>RW>IB
    ..
    repeat procs>bursts>procs>bursts


    Notes:

    1. I parsed with fervor and still, starvation is there,so use full flurry. DPS will go a bit down, but will rise again when u start spaming these buttons with 100 energy again.
    2. Use flurry only when: FB is up, FS is up, SP is up and ofc when SB is on cd. We need SB up 100% of time.
    3. Flaws and rest: SP falling off when DT(proc)>RW>FB.
    4. Super fast rotation.
    5. *= SB procs meaning added dmg to those skills.
    6. SLI can be refreshed by replacing it with a random IB. Use Karuul for it.
    7. Originally, fliching used anywhere, but due to the fact that FB doesnt line up perfectly (for about 1 second), especially in the "DT" cycle, its better to be used there. (dt>rw>flich>rw>fb). now, some times, i use fliching again on the:"CF" cycle, but kinda dont like it, cause of often low on energypush back the rotation etc.

    If on interupt duty or "too many buttons fk it", ignore the fliching thingy. 3 options

    a) keep an eye on that fb when its abt to fall off, and if its lined up (lags etc) proceed as usual. if its not lined up, w8 for 1 sec and tap fb when rdy.

    b) proceed as usual ignoring FB. if its still on cd, u will fire IB and loose some scald and 1-2 fb ticks. next cycle fb will be rdy.FB and IB's are close to each other. DPS loss, but not thaaat much.

    c) Replace 1 ib for 1 RH could save that second. not tested. (By Mhaze)


    3.2 - Another Rotation

    Provided by Kryoz:

    Part 1:

    (SLI) Shock Pulse>Rising Waterfall (Fliching Strike>Rising Waterfall)>Fiery Burst
    Setting Moon>Open The Stream>Shifting Blades
    Flame Spear> Rising Waterfall>Reaping Harvest
    Death touch>Rising Waterfall> Icy burst
    Swift Strike> Rising Waterfall> Icy burst
    Swift Strike> Rising Waterfall> Icy burst

    -------------------------------------------------------

    Part 2:

    Shock Pulse> Rising Waterfall (Fliching Strike>Rising Waterfall)> Fiery Burst
    Setting Moon> Open The Stream> Shifting Blades
    Flame Spear> Rising Waterfall> Reaping Harvest
    (Combat Focus)> Reaping Harvest>Flurry>

    Part 1>Part 2> Part 1> Part 2

    I strongly recommend to replace Flurry with SS>RW>IB x3, when you have high energy.

    Notes:
    1) 100% Shock Pulse up
    2) SLI drops off while in flurry
    3) the FB and IB's are pretty far from each other, so missing that FB will hurt alot more.
    Use fliching on SP>RW>flich>RW>FB
    or
    if on interupt etc, better soution is to w8 and touch nothing until FB is rdy to go
    or
    Replace 1 ib for 1 RH could save that second. not tested. (By Mhaze)


    3.3 - Monitor

    Karuul is your friend. Use to track SLI, FS, Amped, and whatever else u need.

    Code (from Kryoz):

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    D7tvdTh50r/1lrxtrpl0n3UGbo3J7bbyz06gar63ZHzZtOzGMMaMIsoTOA4Zg RfW5ru7nGVwiBgF
    H/fvzsiLLveLnVnkfzo4+WWteYq/Zs30ucoQhwYIjHIsqowyt5WD0sfOTl/0p0ABwQZ6m6A3I0yf
    kpZK+i2p7brpr4Gj5QbDrbS5KGJcFxDmlCU0QXi39qJVrZu2Nc sdLvMAmKX4H7K13+qSij/Pjzv1
    D9NscPqsNYhKnGcq5iCuWrmUQLKMH3cq5ij+UHK1Bj7YBCaMw+ zsLsKF4OfkVIl9GZSLfqSigVXK
    44rHx0h2V/+P/20wuCl5kBclLAEhSoHA9XsmmscNB+n1z7gdt5NwFjyWB8TtK8l 3JUyhwG+W9te3
    zgtRL3GQYa9RqC7XqQffB9E4e1f7Qz33w1LmEEJYSyrJ0Hui2B OR/uEUw5yXKz27yr6h/nRUagcI
    4RYQnCS8AAOuVn3o5JPKxb0EW1AZvU/sXpsaPmA

    1) /kalert
    2) Click the "File" tab
    3) Import Set
    4) Copy Paste the code
    5) Edit Layout

    I included everything but Combat Focus and Flurry because those should definitely be visible on the bar.


    3.4 - Parses

    14.887k 61/13/2 ACT parse http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...aragon132.png/

    with no consu at all, live server, live gear, only fervor with my rotation.

    video of the same 61/13/2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bZzT5blxWI

    21.5k ACT parse 61/13/2 PTS full consumables and raid buffs at dummy fountry,live gear
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/132flich.png/

    21k ACT parse with 61/13/2 PTS full consu with Dementic rotation
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/dementic.png/

    20.9k ACT parse PTS using 61paragon/10 riftblade/5 tempest, PTS, live gear,full consu
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/61105.png/

    24.4k ACT Goloch parse 61/13/2
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/goloch.png/

    3.5 - Where to use


    61Paragon can be used, in fights that dont include adds. I prefer:
    10 man--> All of them
    FT--> Gelidra(if not on adds etc)
    --> Zaviel (if no interupt duty)
    EE--> Kain ( if u have rb fellow warriors)
    -->Matriarch
    --> Goloch

    4.1 - History

    24/4
    -History added.
    -rotation edited, slightly changed and more notes added.
    -links fixed.
    -Karuul codes added
    -fliching strike Macro added.

    25/4
    - 2.6 section added

    12/5
    - fliching +rw added in "another rotation"
    - Regarding FB
    Note #7 in Proc/burst rotation changed and #3 note added in Kryoz rotation.
    - Mhaze added on Credits



    4.2 - Credits

    - Ervun ( for the macros and feedback)
    - Ureast ( you have a relic man! wake up!)
    - Plaza
    - Mio
    - Kryoz ( thnx m8)
    - Mhaze
    - Big thnx to Pines/Shun/Stellwind/Intrin/Val/Rizaz/Killian/Sharogy/Rain, all these helped me alot to become good warrior. (thru their guides and posts)
    - Sry if i forgot some1

    I guess thats about all i can think at the moment. Have fun with parses and kills.
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    Gear screenshot, live parse, and live parse video links are broken.

    Hopefully its just me.

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    So im noticing the first rotation is around 14 seconds (without Flinching) and the 2nd rotation is 15 seconds. There is 14 seconds between the 2nd Fiery and going back to the first (or 3rd wtv)... is this ever a problem or are we relying on ping/lag to make up for that 1 second? (not a fan of it, but if it works it works. haha)

    Will try out this rotation anyway thanks alot!

    Also, (just on paper) it seems you can move [Flinching+RW] so that FB lines up

    SM>OtS>SB
    FS>RW(1st SB proc)>RH(2nd SB proc)
    DT (3rd SB proc)>RW>[Fliching+RW]> FB

    SP>RW>IB
    SS>RW>IB
    SS>RW>IB

    SM>OtS>SB
    FS>RW(1st SB proc)>RH(2nd SB proc)>[CF+RH] (3rd SB proc)
    SP>RW>FB

    SS>RW>IB
    SS>RW>IB
    SS>RW>IB


    Although i kind of like the 2nd rotation if just for the 100% SP uptime, it has the same 14second 1st rotation thing (i think im just OCD bout these things), but nothing that an extra [Fli-RW] cant fix if its ever a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plexus View Post
    So im noticing the first rotation is around 14 seconds (without Flinching) and the 2nd rotation is 15 seconds. There is 14 seconds between the 2nd Fiery and going back to the first (or 3rd wtv)... is this ever a problem or are we relying on ping/lag to make up for that 1 second? (not a fan of it, but if it works it works. haha)
    The inconsistency of fiery burst is what, ultimately, pushed me away from paragon.

    I should note, that the rotation listed as mine, simple works with 0 energy buffs or surging from Rift Blade. It does however do less dps
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    For ppl new to paragon, yea, use Dementic rotation, its more like flat 60 sec. sli refreshed at a specific time, flurry used at a specific time, no energy problems, less dps, and the fb doesnt line up perfectly.

    For the last 1, i didnt have any problems (burst/proc rotation), at least for the some monitor i made some days ago. After that, i kinda forgot to look at it(fb).

    I think sp placement(100% up) from dementic hurts fb, while my fb placement (lets say 100% up) hurts sp

    As for lag, can help FB line up, but also can eat a whole SS>RW>IB, like last night on Icewatch and Goloch (we did have 10 sec freeze too, the whole raid)
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    Well the fact that your build only has 2 points in amped makes the few seconds without SP hurt less seppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodlak View Post
    Well the fact that your build only has 2 points in amped makes the few seconds without SP hurt less seppy.
    indeed.

    On a side note, even on burst/procs rotation, FB doesnt line up perfectly. But imo, its not big deal, since i have 4 bursts all together.

    for top end min-max, monitor FB, (i will karuul it soon) so DT>RW>FB wont fire IB.
    goes like DT>RW>(check FB cd)> FB when its rdy
    or
    as plexus said using fliching there will close the 0.5 sec gap.
    DT>RW>flich>RW>FB

    Details..details..

    w8ing this week some more feedback by any Goloch parse. I was ahead 2k from rogues and Rb last week (our top cleric was healing).Imo, with relic and perfect excecution dps can be skyrocketed.
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    Great write up everyone. I have a question I would like to get your take on. At low mob health should we stick with open the Stream, or replace it with Final Blessing?

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    I know it's probably not a dps increase, but because I'm keyboard challenged I went with Dementic's rotation. One of the neat things you can do with his rotation is macro combat focus with SLI, that way if you are never without full SLI. I know It's not max dps, but it has to be manageable or I'll die standing in the burning poop in raids due to attention deficit:/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enntense View Post
    Great write up everyone. I have a question I would like to get your take on. At low mob health should we stick with open the Stream, or replace it with Final Blessing?
    after 30%,just replace Rising waterfall with Final Blessing. Since there so many fkin buttons, use the
    #show Final Blessing
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Final Blessing
    cast Rising Waterfall

    from 100% to 0% in all fights and forget abt final blessing. It will auto fire off when <30%

    Also stick with Open the Stream. Alwayz. Its a nice 15 sec physical dot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enntense View Post
    Great write up everyone. I have a question I would like to get your take on. At low mob health should we stick with open the Stream, or replace it with Final Blessing?
    Unless the mob is going to die before Open the Stream can tick for about 10s, it is still higher damage than Final Blessing. Only replace RW with Final Blessing.
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    is this intended?

    cntrl 1-> 2 > f2

    e>q>4
    mouse 1> 2 > 3
    cntrl 2> 2> r

    mouse 2 > 2 > (mouse 3 >2 ) > r
    1>2>r
    1>2>r

    e>q>4
    mouse 1>2>3
    5>3

    mouse 2>2 >r
    1>2>r <--- flurry (f) lol if low energy
    1>2>r
    1>2>r

    i know alot skills can be macroed, but take in mind that thats super fast rotations and macros can easily clip skils mess up things. I dont think its a proper way to use a soul. Im not qq ing or something, i like it, its fun. Just, it kinda makes ppl turn away.
    i know you wont respond, so just make para a bit more simplified next time/patch whatever, or keep it like this and make it clear top ST dps soul.
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    All para really needs is SLI as a 1 hour buff and the same thing Rift blade needs which is fiery burst fitting into the rotation properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enntense View Post
    Great write up everyone. I have a question I would like to get your take on. At low mob health should we stick with open the Stream, or replace it with Final Blessing?
    As previously stated OtS is a dps increase over FB if it runs the full course or close to it. I, personally, stop using OtS at about 1-2%, give or take, of a raid bosses life and just spam FB when it's activated. I've never noticed a dps loss by doing this and as you play the spec more during raids you'll get a feel for when to not use OtS.

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