Warborne's PvP Build - 1.8

[Asteldian]

I am a big fan of this build for conquest. I tend not to use it in WFs because I feel it lacks a punch - nice aoe for good damage totals but doesn't have the raw power I like to have. Still, it's a preference thing really and I certainly don't scoff at anyone using it in WFs in fact the aoe damaged it deals can be very helpful alongside my focus target damage

[TheGrinnz]

You sure you posted the right build Link Grinnz? It looks like the original spec...

Weird, well I just rebuilt it so let's try that again...

http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1c...zcMrzso.xMo.-7

[Bloodbourne]

Im impressed man. Im p50 and i totally rock people with this spec. 15k hp and get the top damage done

Appreciated. I spent a lot of time at the dummies before and after 1.8 hit to see how specs would compare. I was sad to see RV/RB/PL go, but this ended up being a real treat to build and play.

It also brings a lot of utility for PvE soloing and dungeons.

Sadly, it will never touch the AoE powerhouse I had in 1.7

[Soulsurfing]

A while back it was said that if a rogue goes into certain defensive CD's, static shock would still do damage... No longer true?

I will def be adding shield of the hero back in. Its normally in all my pal builds, was just testing. Mainly want it now for the block. And since im using pvp weaps the hit will come in handy.

Doesnt seem to be much of anywhere good to put those 3-4 pts in vk so 3% protection against cornered beast and several rogue builds is worth more to me then extra pack duration. Speaking of ill be moving that power leech point to devourer...

[Bloodbourne]

A while back it was said that if a rogue goes into certain defensive CD's, static shock would still do damage... No longer true?

I will def be adding shield of the hero back in. Its normally in all my pal builds, was just testing. Mainly want it now for the block. And since im using pvp weaps the hit will come in handy.

Doesnt seem to be much of anywhere good to put those 3-4 pts in vk so 3% protection against cornered beast and several rogue builds is worth more to me then extra pack duration. Speaking of ill be moving that power leech point to devourer...

True enough but the damage is so low, that its absolute garbage. Purge the CD. You should be alright with hit now, to negate most of the CDs they have (aside from dmg reductions)

[Bloodbourne]

Today, while on my Rogue, someone in my guild says "I found this sweet new PvP Build... 32rb/26vk/8pl"

>.< You're welcome.

[Killerkonnat]

What do you think about the new conquest lessers? Are they worth using with this build or should I just stick with the old ones with 8 more valor? Neither of the new ones has any endurance either. I was overall disappointed when I saw the new lessers.

[Bloodbourne]

What do you think about the new conquest lessers? Are they worth using with this build or should I just stick with the old ones with 8 more valor? Neither of the new ones has any endurance either. I was overall disappointed when I saw the new lessers.

Personal preference. I'm partial to the originals, I use the crit lessers, as warrior gear is a bit weak on the crit in PvP. As is I'm sitting at about 25% crit, which is less when you factor in the 5% crit reduction.

(I haven't run extensive testing, but I'm curious as to whether thats a flat 5% reduction making my crit rate 20%, or if its a 5% reduction of the 25% chance (making it a ~1% decrease in rawr crit))

[Asteldian]

I am likely going to go with the new essences as they help make up the gap between pve stats and PvP stats while offering valor still. The 8 valor loss is worth it however I did not pay attention to a lack of endurance.
The new sigil seems crap though - give me 50 valor over vengeance.

One of the great things about this build is its versatility, for pve it runs nicely as tank in dungeons and I also use it for HK sicaron fight - I share damage with other tank, do ok damage and can be part of purge rotation. Very handy with only 6 roles to play with

[Bloodbourne]

I am likely going to go with the new essences as they help make up the gap between pve stats and PvP stats while offering valor still. The 8 valor loss is worth it however I did not pay attention to a lack of endurance.
The new sigil seems crap though - give me 50 valor over vengeance.

One of the great things about this build is its versatility, for pve it runs nicely as tank in dungeons and I also use it for HK sicaron fight - I share damage with other tank, do ok damage and can be part of purge rotation. Very handy with only 6 roles to play with

Try tanking Zilas (Hits like a *****). People tell me all the time that Hybrids have ****ty threat.... I'm sorry but I can easily rip threat off any tank with my hybrid... soooo....

[Killerkonnat]

(I haven't run extensive testing, but I'm curious as to whether thats a flat 5% reduction making my crit rate 20%, or if its a 5% reduction of the 25% chance (making it a ~1% decrease in rawr crit))

I am 95% certain it's a flat reduction. Compare it to other buffs/debuffs with pretty much the same wording. For example Mark of Extermination: "Increases chance to be critically hit by 5% for 60s."
That skill is a flat increase along with other similar buffs/debuffs.

[Bloodbourne]

I am 95% certain it's a flat reduction. Compare it to other buffs/debuffs with pretty much the same wording. For example Mark of Extermination: "Increases chance to be critically hit by 5% for 60s."
That skill is a flat increase along with other similar buffs/debuffs.

Yes, I'm assuming it is this way, but I wouldn't put it past trion to gimp it up :-P

[Asteldian]

Try tanking Zilas (Hits like a *****). People tell me all the time that Hybrids have ****ty threat.... I'm sorry but I can easily rip threat off any tank with my hybrid... soooo....

I've always found hybrid threat to be rock solid. High dps mixed with the fact most attacks have threat means you won't be losing anything.

I tend not to tank zilas anymore. While I can tank him and hold all the add aggro I found it is far easier to let a cleric tank it as they dont even need to move or switch targets.

Incidentally, assuming you don't mind, I am planning to write a long winded guide to this build on bluedots. I like to keep a good list of builds easily findable for players. I've named it The Warbourne for obvious reasons (and the name suits it)

[Wylt]

I've always found hybrid threat to be rock solid. High dps mixed with the fact most attacks have threat means you won't be losing anything.

I tend not to tank zilas anymore. While I can tank him and hold all the add aggro I found it is far easier to let a cleric tank it as they dont even need to move or switch targets.

Incidentally, assuming you don't mind, I am planning to write a long winded guide to this build on bluedots. I like to keep a good list of builds easily findable for players. I've named it The Warbourne for obvious reasons (and the name suits it)

Longwinded guide can be found here, posted by myself. Slight tweaks to the build for small increase in threat/tanking in PvE. Still melts faces in PvP. Feel free to take anything you want from it. Soon as I get edit rights (if I ever do, if the warrior forum mod ever shows up again) I plan to tweak the ST macros a touch, clean up the post and make it "pretty".

[Asteldian]

Too bad I already wrote it before seeing yours (I just haven't posted it yet) - still, I am adding your build variation to it as they are good tweaks for pve. Also my guide was a bit more generic but I have borrowed the idea of splitting it a bit to seperate PvP and pve some so thanks for that