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    Val's Rising Waterfall Macro Guide for 38 Paragon/26 Champion/2 Riftblade - 2 Hand (V2)

    By Valthirus - Warrior of Seastone

    Most Recent Update: December 17th, 2011

    Table of Contents:

    First Words:
    1.1 - Introduction
    1.2 - FAQ
    1.3 - What you should be parsing (Goals)

    Preparation (things you need to know):
    2.1 - Spec
    2.2 - Macros
    2.3 - Loadequip Tutorial
    2.4 - Skill Explanation
    2.5 - Toggle Buffs

    Rotations Cycles/Explanations:
    3.1 - Single Target Rotation Cycle
    3.2 - 1st Fiery Burst Rotation Explanation
    3.3 - 2nd Fiery Burst Rotation Explanation
    3.4 - Strike Like Iron Rotation Explanation
    3.5 - Single Target Rotation Cycle (with 4 set Champion Synergy Crystal)
    3.6 - AOE Rotation
    3.7 - AOE Rotation (with 2 Set Champion Synergy Crystal)
    3.8 - Warrior Rotation Video Guides

    Updates:
    4.0 - Most Recent Update
    4.1 - Update History


    1.1 - Introduction:

    This spec will parse the highest as of 8/14. At the current moment this spec is leading BM by 200-400 DPS. I would like to give credit to Frootloops for inspiring me to make this macro setup/build. There are many different ways to macro your rotation, but I believe this macro setup will give you the most DPS. Here are a few sample parses from a Sicaron Kill on 9/21/11: Raid Rifts - ACT. Please feel free to contact me with any feedback, questions, or theorycrafting on my character Valthirus (on Seastone as a Guardian).

    If you have the HK 2 Set bonus this will also be the best AOE DPS Spec.

    I do now have a video of this rotation and it is located on my Youtube Channel.

    Direct Link to RW Guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MPqWVgdOT4

    1.2 - FAQ:

    Q: What is the best parsing Single Target DPS Spec?
    A: If done correctly, this spec will parse the highest (some fights being an exception).

    Q: What is the best parsing AOE DPS Spec?
    A: BM is the highest AOE DPS at the current moment (with no Synergy Crystal). With the Champion Synergy Crystal from HK, Rising Waterfall will also be the best AOE Spec since the 2 set Synergy bonus allows Bladefury to be spammed.

    Q: What is the 4 set rotation?
    A: Same spec and swap Power Strike for Mighty Blow.

    Q: Should I spam Fiery Burst?
    A: Yes. 3 Fiery Burst per rotation while you are above 30 power. Try to do 2 Fiery Bursts when you are around 40 after doing a 3 point on your first Fiery Burst.


    Q: Should I keep Rising Waterfall and Power Strike in the same Macro and how much DPS will I lose from doing this?
    A: There have been many tests done with Rising Waterfall and Power Strike being in the same macro and results in a big DPS loss (100-200) due to Macro Lag (thanks Rizaz). If you want the most DPS - Use these Spec/Macros.

    Q: What do I do if I don't get a WM proc?
    A: If you don't get a WM Proc then you should do 2 point Fiery Bursts in that SLI. Just ignore your WM procs.


    Q: What should I be parsing?
    A: Refer to 1.3 - What you should be parsing (Goals).

    1.3 - What you should be parsing (Goals):

    These are goals you should set for yourself using RW. Keep in mind gear can make a difference (100 higher/100 lower) as well as Crit RNG. These are very rough estimates on what you should be parsing. These parses are with 730 AP/930 Crit (no buffs). I've also included a Gear Guide below.

    Gear/Stat Guide for interpretation of the Parse Goals:

    Full T1 Dungeon Gear - Subtract the Goal Ranges by 300-400 each.

    Full T2 Dungeon Gear - Subtract the Goal Range by 200-300 each.

    Full T1 Raid Gear - Subtract the Goal Ranges by 100 each.

    50% HK Gear - These goals were done with 50% HK Gear so you don't really need to adjust the goals.

    4 set Mighty Blow - These goals are done with 4 set Mighty Blow. Subtract 200 if you don't have the 4 set.

    100% HK Gear - Add 100 to your Goal Ranges.

    Dummy Parse Goals with Fervour/Tablet (includes Crit RNG):

    44 DPS 2 Hander:

    30% Crit RNG: 1.5k - 1.6k DPS
    40% Crit RNG: 1.6k - 1.7k DPS
    50% Crit RNG: 1.7k - 1.8k DPS

    49 DPS 2 Hander:

    30% Crit RNG: 1.6k - 1.7k DPS
    40% Crit RNG: 1.7k - 1.8k DPS
    50% Crit RNG: 1.8k - 1.9k DPS

    58 DPS 2 Hander:

    30% Crit RNG: 1.8k - 1.9k DPS
    40% Crit RNG: 1.9k - 2k DPS
    50% Crit RNG: 2k - 2.1k DPS

    Murdantix Parse Goals (depends on your tank a bit):

    44 DPS 2 Hander: 2.3k - 2.4k
    49 DPS Relic 2 Hander: 2.5 - 2.6k
    58 DPS HK 2 Hander: 2.8k - 2.9k
    64 DPS HK 2 Hander: 3.1k - 3.2k

    Sicaron Parse Goals (if you get rotation down and you get no boxes):

    44 DPS 2 Hander: 3.1k - 3.2k
    49 DPS Relic 2 Hander: 3.4k - 3.5k
    58 DPS HK 2 Hander: 3.9k - 4k
    64 DPS Relic 2 Hander: 4.3k - 4.4k

    2.1 - 38 Paragon/26 Champion/2 Riftblade Spec:

    ZAM Soulbuilder Spec: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1c...hVucM.EhMzV0bh

    2.2 - Macros:

    These are the macros that you use for the Rising Waterfall Spec. Macros are used to more efficiently manage rotations. Some skills in this build (Rising Waterfall/Mighty Blow/Bladefury) do not to be macroed due to the fact that there aren't any skills that need to be macroed with them.

    Power Strike:

    #show Power Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    loadequip # (whatever your 2 hand macro is)
    cast Power Strike
    cast frenzied strike

    Rising Waterfall:

    Just have Rising Waterfall as a Skill (not a macro).

    Finisher:

    #show strike like iron
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast strike like iron
    cast fiery burst
    cast frenzied strike

    Shifting Blades:

    #show Shifting Blades
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast frenzied strike
    cast Shifting Blades

    AOE:

    #show Mighty Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    loadequip # (whatever your 2 hand macro is)
    cast Mighty Blow

    AOE Followup (can be the same macro as your ranged follow up):

    #show Path of the hurricane
    suppressmacrofailures
    loadequip # (whatever your DW loadequip is)
    cast path of the hurricane
    cast path of the raptor

    AOE Finisher:

    #show Bladefury
    suppressmacrofailures
    loadequip # (whatever your 2 Hand loadequip is)
    cast Bladefury

    Ranged DPS Builder (use this when you can't be in melee):

    #show path of the raptor
    suppressmacrofailures
    loadequip # (refer to the tutorial below if you do not know what this is)
    cast path of the wind

    Ranged followup Followup:

    #show Path of the hurricane
    suppressmacrofailures
    loadequip # (whatever your DW loadequip is)
    cast path of the hurricane
    cast path of the raptor

    Melee DPS (use this when going back into melee):

    loadequip # (refer to the tutorial below if you do not know what this is)

    2.3 - Loadequip Tutorial:

    Loadequip is a quicker way of switching gear and weapons. In this build you will use loadequip in order to do more DPS at ranged. When saving or loading a build you must choose a number you would like the "equip" to be.

    Method A Thread:

    This way of doing it makes it much easier. You can use your normal keys to use ranged attacks.

    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...2h-builds.html

    Method B Steps:

    1. Equip all your items that you would like to load. Once you have done this type the command "/saveequip 1" (or whatever number you wish to use).
    2. Make a macro called "loadequip 1" (or whatever number you used).

    Make sure to repeat these steps in order to have an "equip" with Duel Wield weapons and one with a 2 Hand.

    2.4 - Skill Explanations:

    Power Strike (PS) - Your Attack Point builder; this is used to proc Rising Waterfall. No Cooldown.
    Rising Waterfall (RW) - Your Followup skill; use this after a Power Strike. No Cooldown.
    Frenzied Strike (FS) - Your off GCD damage skill that is procced off a critical strike. 6 Second Cooldown.
    Bash/Flinching Strike - Another off GCD damage skill that you only use manually (seperate key) while above 50 power (or whatever you feel comfortable with). Make sure to combine these skills in one macro. 6 Second Cooldown.
    Fiery Burst (FB) - A finisher bleed tick; you will use 2 of these per Strike Like Iron (below) cycle. No Cooldown.
    Strike Like Iron (SLI) - A big damage buff - It is vital that you refresh this whenever it comes off cooldown. 12 Second Cooldown.
    Shifting Blades (SB) - Damage to your next 3 attacks. 15 Second cooldown.
    Mighty Blow (MB) - Your AOE Attack Point builder. No Cooldown.
    Bladefury (BF) - Your AOE Finisher. 8 Second Cooldown (4 with Bladefury Synergy Crystal).
    Weapon Master (WM) - A 50% chance of generating a 2nd AP point.

    2.5 - Toggle Buffs:

    Way of the Mountain (WOTM) - 30% damage bonus to follow ups (Rising Waterfall).
    Storm Blade (SB) - A ticking damage bleed.
    Slayer's Bearing (SB) - A 25% damage bonus to critical attacks.

    3.1 - Single Target Rotation Cycle:

    Important:

    Do not mash Power Strike. If Frenzied Strike comes off of cooldown you lose a RW proc.

    (Starts after your first Strike Like Iron - SLI)

    Power Strike -> Rising Waterfall -> Fiery Burst
    Power Strike -> Rising Waterfall -> Power Strike -> Rising Waterfall -> Fiery Burst
    Power Strike -> Rising Waterfall -> (Power Strike with no WM proc) -> Strike Like Iron


    Video of RW Rotation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MPqWVgdOT4

    3.2 - 1st Fiery Burst Rotation Explanation:

    "Power Strike -> Rising Waterfall -> Fiery Burst"

    1st Fiery Burst Explanation: Try to get your 1st Fiery Burst ASAP. - This is critical in order to not let Strike Like Iron drop off; If you don't get a Weapon Master Proc (50% chance for a 2nd AP point) then hit a 2 point Fiery Burst.

    3.3 - 2nd Fiery Burst Rotation Explanation:

    "Power Strike -> Rising Waterfall -> Fiery Burst (When above 30 Power - Refer to FAQ) -> Power Strike -> Rising Waterfall -> Fiery Burst"

    2nd Fiery Burst Explanation: With plenty of time before Strike Like Iron comes off cooldown go for 2 Rising Waterfalls. You should nail the first RW right before the half way mark and your 2nd before 75% of the SLI cooldown.
    Also make sure to hit a 2nd/3rd Fiery Burst when you are above 30 power. It gives you an extra tick or so of Fiery Burst.

    Note: If you do not make these time checks in time you will most likely end up with a clipped 4th RW in an SLI.

    3.4 - Strike Like Iron (SLI) Explanation:

    "Power Strike -> Rising Waterfall -> (Power Strike with no WM) -> Strike Like Iron"

    SLI Explanation: Build 3 AP quickly in order to catch Stike Like Iron right as it comes off of cooldown. If you don't get a Weapon Master Proc (50% chance for a 2nd AP point) then go ahead and hit another PS OR a 2 Point SLI.

    Tip: Hit SLI right as PS is about to come off cooldown to give you an extra 1-2 seconds in the next rotation.

    3.5 - Single Target Rotation Cycle (with 4 set Champ crystal):

    If your weapon DPS is fairly high or you are low on power then go to this alternative rotation. It is a big DPS increase - especially on Sicaron.

    (Starts after your first Strike Like Iron - SLI)

    Mighty Blow -> Rising Watefall -> Shifting Blades
    Mighty Blow -> Rising Waterfall -> Bladefury
    Mighty Blow -> Rising Waterfall -> SLI

    Mighty Blow -> Rising Waterfall -> Fiery Burst
    Mighty Blow -> Rising Waterfall -> Fiery Burst
    Mighty Blow -> Rising Waterfall -> Fiery Burst
    Mighty Blow -> Rising Watefall -> SLI


    3.6 - AOE Rotation Cycle (if you NEED to and you have no 2 Set HK Synergy Crystal):

    (Starts after your first Strike Like Iron - SLI)

    Mighty Blow -> POTH Follow Up Macro -> Bladefury
    Mighty Blow -> Mighty Blow -> Fiery Burst
    Mighty Blow -> POTH Follow Up Macro -> SLI

    Mighty Blow -> Mighty Blow -> Bladefury
    Mighty Blow -> POTH Follow Up Macro -> Fiery Burst
    Mighty Blow -> Mighty Blow -> SLI


    3.7 - AOE Rotation Cycle (With HK 2 Set Synergy):

    (Starts after your first Strike Like Iron - SLI)

    Mighty Blow -> POTH Follow Up Macro -> Bladefury
    Mighty Blow -> Mighty Blow -> Bladefury
    Mighty Blow -> POTH Follow Up Macro -> SLI

    Mighty Blow -> Mighty Blow -> Bladefury
    Mighty Blow -> POTH Follow Up Macro -> Bladefury
    Mighty Blow -> Mighty Blow -> SLI


    This is a pretty simple rotation. You want to be going for 2 Bladefury Finishers per SLI.

    3.8 - Videos/Links:

    Spec Links:

    RW 38 Paragon/26 Champion/2 Riftblade ZAM Soulbuilder Spec

    BM 34 Champion/26 Beastmaster/6 Riftblade ZAM Soulbuilder Spec

    DW 38 Paragon/22 Champion/6 Riftblade ZAM Soulbuilder Spec

    Videos:

    Valthirus' Youtube Channel for Warrior Rotation Guides

    RW Rotation Guide Thread

    RW Rotation Guide Video

    BM Rotation Guide Thread

    BM Rotation Guide Video

    DW Rotation Guide Thread

    4.0 Most Recent Update: December 17th, 2011

    4.1 Update History:

    Thread Started - 8/4/11

    9/18/11 Updates:

    V2 RW Thread Updates - 9/18/11:

    AOE Rotation
    Buffs
    FAQ
    Introduction
    Table of Contents
    Videos


    Fixed Bash/Flinching being in some of the Macros - 9/18/11
    Added Dummy Parse Goals - 9/18/11
    Added Gear Weights for Parses - 9/18/11

    9/19/11 Updates:
    Fixed Gear Weights and added T1 Gear - 9/19/11
    Fixed a few typos, added a quick intro to macros, and edited the introduction - 9/19/11
    Changed 200-300 from PS/RW being in same macro to 100-200 - 9/19/11
    Added Weapon Master to skill explanations and changed rotation explanation a bit - 9/19/11

    9/20/11 Updates:
    Added "Important: Do not mash PS" in Rotation - 9/20/11

    9/21/11 Updates:
    Updated Sicaron parses due to buffed aura - 9/21/11
    Added Sicaron Box Formula - 9/21/11

    9/23/11 Updates:
    Added Sharogy's Weaponswap Thread - 9/23/11

    9/24/11 Updates:
    Added 2 point SLI explanation - 9/24/11

    10/9/11 Updates:
    Added new AOE rotation - 10/9/11

    10/27/11 Updates:
    Added 4 set in FAQ - 10/27/11

    11/21/11 Updates:
    3 Fiery Burst in FAQ/Rotation - 11/21/11

    11/24/11 Updates:
    Tweaked DPS ranges on Murdantix/Sicaron - 11/24/11

    12/17/11 Updates:
    Added Sharogy SB Rotation - 11/24/11

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    1520 with Bard Buffs/Tablets/Self Buffs.
    http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/...rent=15200.png

    My self buffed crit is really bad, but here's a parse with hunter's pursuit... With Spotters (150), Weaponstone (200), and Archon Buffs (50-100) I should be good for around 1900-2050 on Plut.

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    I have 550ap/840crit and I pull 1500 in DW (weeping edge, herald axe) no prob, tried this build out today, and finally got optimal, I was at 1250 with hunters pursuit. How the hell are you getting hunters to parse so high with only ferver and self buffs?
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    impressive dummy parse. I'm having trouble getting this one to work for me as my BM build is still out performing it by a large 110+ dps margin(i do not use enraged comp or bonds when dummy parsing). I am assuming this is because of my familiarity with the BM rotation, and I haven't actually worried about follow up attacks since 1.2

    I will keep trying, but right now your dummy parse for this build (2h para) trumps mine by a good 80 dps and I have a relic. gw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valthirus View Post
    1520 with Bard Buffs/Tablets/Self Buffs.
    http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/...rent=15200.png

    My self buffed crit is really bad, but here's a parse with hunter's pursuit... With Spotters (150), Weaponstone (200), and Archon Buffs (50-100) I should be good for around 1900-2050 on Plut.

    What do you mean bard buffs?

    full motifs, fanfare of power, coda cowardice? That's pretty inflated if so.


    Self buffed, I'm critting power strike for 1450 and RW for 2254 with a sylvan. Your top ends are a solid 150 higher than that with a hunter's pursuit. Even with my codex trinket up, I'm only critting for 1573 and 2423 selfbuffed.
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    Yeah, I didn't make that clear. I had Fervour+Motifs which was why I didn't include it in my estimation list... I'll get a Fervour+Tablet buff in a sec.

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    I will say this, I pulled 1900 and some change on murdantix tonight, after the nerf. 2h and dw are.pretty neck and neck.

    You may break 1800 on murda with this build and the current weps you have. I doubt you'll see a plutonus parse as high as you want.

    Stellar work regardless.
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    Here's my self buffed parse plus tablet/fervour... I've gotten better with the rotation (and I didn't get crap RNG).

    Fervour/Tablet/Self Buffs

    http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=1453.png

    @ Zell, 2026 with that BM spec on Murdantix is surprisingly good. It shows good potential for that build and I will eventually have to try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valthirus View Post
    Yeah, I didn't make that clear. I had Fervour+Motifs which was why I didn't include it in my estimation list... I'll get a Fervour+Tablet buff in a sec.
    Quote Originally Posted by NJoyTheSilence View Post
    I will say this, I pulled 1900 and some change on murdantix tonight, after the nerf. 2h and dw are.pretty neck and neck.

    You may break 1800 on murda with this build and the current weps you have. I doubt you'll see a plutonus parse as high as you want.

    Stellar work regardless.
    Quote Originally Posted by Valthirus View Post
    Here's my self buffed parse plus tablet/fervour... I've gotten better with the rotation (and I didn't get crap RNG).

    Fervour/Tablet/Self Buffs

    http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=1453.png

    @ Zell, 2026 with that BM spec on Murdantix is surprisingly good. It shows good potential for that build and I will eventually have to try it.

    Are you using Mark of Inevitability with that? That seems more plausible. Still pretty good.

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    Last Parse of the night. Everything the same.. I double checked if anyone was armour debuffing... Just used codex trinket.

    http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=1464.png

    And no, I didn't use the armour debuff, Rizaz. :P

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