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    After talking with Keyens and Vladd on discord tonight, I learned that there is no softcap for dodge via stat but hardcap which is 40% and for reaching 40% which is unlikely.
    Since no softcap means no diminishing returns

    you must have around 69284 dodge to reach 40%.

    Also critpower softcap 40% is not 9060 but 9075, for getting 40% on raid enviroment having 8511 critpower is more than enough (300 via curry and 3% from sigil).
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    Default Nightblade spec

    I'm interested in the nightblade spec but I notice the guide doesn't link anywhere and while you've recommended a spec with assassin as the 3rd soul, the legendary is a sab skill. I'm guessing it's a mix up. Would be great to have a look at a guide for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aileen View Post
    After talking with Keyens and Vladd on discord tonight, I learned that there is no softcap for dodge via stat but hardcap which is 40% and for reaching 40% which is unlikely.
    Since no softcap means no diminishing returns

    you must have around 69284 dodge to reach 40%.

    Also critpower softcap 40% is not 9060 but 9075, for getting 40% on raid enviroment having 8511 critpower is more than enough (300 via curry and 3% from sigil).
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    Quote Originally Posted by iammacross View Post
    I'm interested in the nightblade spec but I notice the guide doesn't link anywhere and while you've recommended a spec with assassin as the 3rd soul, the legendary is a sab skill. I'm guessing it's a mix up. Would be great to have a look at a guide for it.
    That was just old text that I didn't change, fixed it now
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    Physical crit softcap value is 42240 which gives you 45% around every 93.865 (93.86528778) crit you gain 0.1 (prior to softcap) and with t1 gear, raid rift essences and fragments soft cap for physical crit is reachable now after almost 4 years, thou reaching hard cap which is 60% will be never gonna happen since you need 112627 physical crit to reach this value.

    Since I didn't know synergy crystal stats working like buffs previous selfbuff value invalid by very low amount for critpower, you must have 8540 selfbuffed prior to gedlo and sigil to reach 40% on raid enviroment critpower softcap is 9074 gives you 40% same goes for reaching hardcap on critpower which is 50% is unlikely too you must have 20417 critpower rating to reach this value on this expansion, every 22.683 (22.68346977) critpower increasing your critpower by 0.1% (prior to softcap)

    Dodge hardcap 40% exact value even thou is not reachable, you must have 69266 dodge rating to reach this value.

    Remember this are base values you can reach by their stat rating, dodge with buffs and talents can go almost 100% but you must reach hardcap for doing it.

    PS: I find this values on pts by debugging, so they are 100% accurate values at least for client side, unless server side has different calculations or rounding/truncating on float values like on client physical crit is rounded but critpower is truncated for tooltip display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aileen View Post
    Physical crit softcap value is 42240 which gives you 45% around every 93,865 (93,86528778) crit you gain 0.1 (prior to softcap) and with t1 gear, raid rift essences and fragments soft cap for physical crit is reachable now after almost 4 years, thou reaching hard cap which is 60% will be never gonna happen since you need 112627 physical crit to reach this value.

    Since I didn't know synergy crystal stats working like buffs previous selfbuff value invalid by very low amount for critpower, you must have 8540 selfbuffed prior to gedlo and sigil to reach 40% on raid enviroment critpower softcap is 9074 gives you 40% same goes for reaching hardcap on critpower which is 50% is unlikely too you must have 20417 critpower rating to reach this value on this expansion, every 22,683 (22,68346977) critpower increasing your critpower by 0.1% (prior to softcap)

    Dodge hardcap 40% exact value even thou is not reachable, you must have 69266 dodge rating to reach this value.

    Remember this are base values you can reach by their stat rating, dodge with buffs and talents can go almost 100% but you must reach hardcap for doing it.

    PS: I find this values on pts by debugging, so they are 100% accurate values at least for client side, unless server side has different calculations or rounding/truncating on float values like on client physical crit is rounded but critpower is truncated for tooltip display.
    How does sigil work past soft cap since it is percentage based? What if you are at soft cap with curry then apply sigil? Ive had this happen and only saw around .5% increase

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poshy View Post
    How does sigil work past soft cap since it is percentage based? What if you are at soft cap with curry then apply sigil? Ive had this happen and only saw around .5% increase
    Sigil multiplies your base crit power by 1.03 (%3)

    So lets say you have WAR PA full and have synergy crystal with 4 set bonus so you have 715 total crit power extra then gear itself.

    Your crit power ingame lets say: 7100
    Your base critpower coming from gear: 7100-715 = 6385
    You used sigil now your crit power becomes: (6385 * 1,03) + 700 + 15 = 7291
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    The link to the NB guide is dead.

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    Default incorrect spec link

    your phy spec for pvp links to your assassin pvp guide, which doesnt quite help

    could you correct this please

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    Quote Originally Posted by swoged View Post
    your phy spec for pvp links to your assassin pvp guide, which doesnt quite help

    could you correct this please
    Good catch Fixed it

    I really should update this at some point, but means re-installing... maybe next week
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    Default Please update guide

    I would be all for updates for this. I have referred to this guide over and over again I dont know how many times for info or for reference for new players in guild.

    It would be so AWESOME to have a BiS list kept up to date for here as well as PRIME when it goes live. (yes i know prime doesnt belong here, but atm we have no forum division for it)

    If anyone handy with spreadsheets could set something up, I would be so appreciative as I am sure many others would as well

    Thumbs up on this now and for the future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daenaira View Post
    I would be all for updates for this. I have referred to this guide over and over again I dont know how many times for info or for reference for new players in guild.

    Well, only took me 5 months but I finally updated this, there are a few more things I need to fix or add but its mostly done now, I removed all the trash tier specs and only included the specs doing a decent amount of damage. (non-meta specs can be found in the first comment)

    61 Marksman, 61 Nightblade and 61 Bladedancer are the only 3 specs that are competitive with each other, but 61 Bladedancer has no place in BoS, so you're stuck to MM and NB, both are very close, I did a MM parse that was 50k dps higher than my NB parse over the weekend (but that could just be me sucking at NB, so )

    But you have the options of using both either way, 61NB is quite nice on Azranel because of Twilight Transcendence allowing you to eat Missile Storm in case you mess up, and MM is nice on Isiel if your group does the Ranged strat (just don't blow HFB + RFS during Aegis)


    No point playing 54 Nightblade until they fix the issues they created with Sticky Bombs (if they ever fix it)

    If I missed anything or anything i've said is incorrect let me know and i'll fix it


    Edit: I'll see if I can get the title updated to say 4.5 but... might take some time

    Oh and I need to update the kalerts... kms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltie View Post
    Edit: I'll see if I can get the title updated to say 4.5 but... might take some time
    Report your main post and ask in that report box (be nice and polite). Works for me every time within a reasonable time. It's always been quicker than DMing people.
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    Edit nvm I think I found an answer
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    Aren't you missing one x)

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