Rogue Specs/Macros/K-Alerts

[TheCrazyKlown]

What I figured would be best for new and old players alike is to just provide a compiled list of Specs, Macro, K-Alerts, Basic Rotations, and let the community figure out what they like.

Most people do not need 10 pages of how to play a spec, but a basic idea they can build on and find a sense of their own way.

Are these raid specs? Yes, they can be used in the current raids. It's what spec do you need for the boss you're on is the question, or testing, and comfort level of each person.

:::::Rogue Specs :::::
_______________________________
--Tank/DPS/Support--
0.1-Useful Stuff-
1-Tank *8-Tact/7-Bard*
2- 61Ranger-
3- 61 Marksman-
4- 61 Bladedancer-
5- 61 Assassin-
6- Nightblade/Sin-
7- 61 Bard-
8- 61 Saboteur-
9 - Support Karuul Alerts -
10 - 61 Nightblade

0.1.1 - Link To get Karuul Alert, King Boss Mode, and Other Add Ons.
http://www.curse.com/addons/rift

0.1.2 - Need To Track DPS, Hps, Among Other Things?
Rift Meter Is My Preference
http://www.curse.com/addons/rift/rift-meter

0.1.3 - Need Karuul Alert, aka K-Alert?
http://www.curse.com/addons/rift/karuulalert

1.0 - Tank *61-Riftstalker/8-Tact/7-Bard* -

1.1 - :::Build:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...kGlaGBiGB4/Th0

1.2 - :::Buffs:::
Guardian Phase
Planebound Resilience
Fanfare of Vigor
Curative Engine
1.3 - :::Macros:::
***** Single Target *****
#show Planar Strike
suppressmacrofailures
cast Phantom Blow
cast Guarded Steel
cast Planar Strike
cast Empyrean Bolt
cast Break Free

***** AoE *****
#show Rift Disturbance
cast Rift Disturbance
cast Wrath of the Planes
cast Phantom Blow
cast Planar Strike
cast Empyrean Bolt

***** Ports *****
#show Shadow Blitz
suppressmacrofailures
cast Shadow Blitz
cast Shadow Assault
cast Shadow Stalk
cast Guarded Steel
cast Break Free

***** Interrupt @Focus *****
#show Planar Disruption
cast @focus Planar Disruption

***** Cool Downs *****
#show Soul Coalescence
cast Soul Coalescence
cast Planebound Aegis
cast Scatter the Shadows
cast Planar Refuge
cast Physical Wellness

****NOTE****
Place each cool down on your bar, this is just the order I most commonly use them.


1.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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1.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
Planar Strike Macro
Instigate *Single Target Taunt*
Planar Attraction *5 Target Taunt/Pull*
Rift Disturbance Macro
Ports Macro
Planar Splash
Soul Coalescence
Planebound Aegis
Scatter the Shadows
Planar Refuge
physical Wellness
Defer Death
Rift Prison
Interrupt Macro *Planar Disruption*
Cleanse Soul *If You Have The PA, Tier 1 PVP*
Memory Capture
Flash Back
Shadow Shift

1.6 :::Utility:::
See Cool Down Macro
Interrupt
2 Self Cleanses *If You Have The PA*


2.0 - Ranger -

2.1 - :::Build:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...kllaGGlaB4/y9E

2.2 - :::Buffs:::
Ravenous Instincts
Feral Instincts
Hellfire Blades
Virulent Poison
Spirit Of The Wilderness


2.3 - :::Macros:::
#show Quick Shot
cast shadow fire
cast Quick Shot
cast Animalism
cast Feral Aggression
petattack


#show Ace Shot
cast Ace Shot
cast Animalism
cast Feral Aggression
petattack

#show Call: Blood Raptor
cast Hasten Call
cast Call: Blood Raptor


2.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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2.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
Quick Shot Macro
Twin Shot
Pierce Shot
Ace Shot Macro
Head Shot
Trick Shot *AoE*
Rain Of arrows *AoE*
ConCussive Blast *Aoe Interrupt*

2.6 - :::Opening Rotation:::
Splinter Shot > Ace Shot macro 3x *Feral Aggression > Animalism > Ace Shot* > Pierce Shot > Quick Shot Macro 1x *Shadow Fire* > Head Shot > Quick Shot Macro 4x > Twin Shot > Splinter Shot > Quick Shot Macro 3x > Twin Shot

***Maintain The Following***
Splinter Shot
Ace Shot Debuff
Shadow Fire Buff
Beastial Fury *Applied After Head Shot*
Pierce Shot *If more than 1 ranger, decide who cast it*

2.7 - :::Utility:::
ConCussive Blast *Aoe Interrupt*
Escape Artist *Ranger Version Of Break Free*


3.0 - Marksman -

3.1 - :::Build:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...AkGlllkGGyy/wg


3.2 - :::Buffs:::
Silver Tip Munitions
Static Shock Munitions

3.3 - :::Macros:::
#Show Rapid Fire Shot
cast Free Recoil
cast Rapid Fire Shot
cast Hasted Shot

#show Empowered Shot
cast Bull’s Eye
cast Empowered Shot
cast Shift Shot


3.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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3.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
Swift Shot Macro
Rapid Fire Shot Macro
Strafe
Quick Reload
Decoy
Chain of Destruction

3.5 - :::Opening Rotation:::
Devoy > Strafe > Rapid Fire Shot Macro 2x * Free Recoil > Rapid Fire Shot* > Empowered Shot Macro 2x *Bull’s Eye > Empowered Shot* > Quick Reload > Strafe > Rapid Fire Shot Macro 2x * Free Recoil > Rapid Fire Shot* > Empowered Shot Macro 2x *Bull’s Eye > Empowered Shot* > Empowered Shot Macro *Till 5 Combo Points* > Rapid Fire Shot Macro


3.6 - :::Utility:::
Deaden - Interrupt
Erradicate - Purge *3 Sec CD*


4.0 – Bladedancer -

4.1 - :::Build:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...kGB5liGkG8/y9E


4.2 - :::Buffs:::
Hellfire Blades
Virulent Poison
Combat Preparation

4.3 - :::Macros:::
*****None*****


4.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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4.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
Binary Strike
Quick Strike
Dauntless Strike
Double Strike
Blade Soul And Parity
Dualism
Fated Blades
Double Coup
Blade Tempo

4.5 - :::Rhythmic Cool Down Order:::
Blade Soul And Parity > Dualism > Fated Blades > Double Coup


5.0 – Assassin -

5.1 - :::Build:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...ykFlliGAGl4/wg


5.2 - :::Buffs:::
Malicious Poison
Lethal Poison
Virulent Poison
Hidden Viel

5.3 - :::Macros:::
#show Savage Strike
suppressmacrofailures
cast Poison Malice
cast Expose Weakness
cast Jagged Strike
cast Serpent Strike
cast Backstab
cast Savage Strike
cast Fiery Spike


5.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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5.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
Savage Strike Macro
Puncture
Fiery Spike
Final Blow
Impale
Thread of Death
Leaping Plunge
Enduring Brew
Stealth
Slip Away

5.6 - :::Rotation:::
Priority DoT Spec, Get Kalerts to assist.


6.0 – Nightblade/Sin -

6.1 - :::Build:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...48/wkciil2Gp8w


6.2 - :::Buffs:::
Virulent Poison
Lethal Poison

6.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::


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6.5 - :::Macros:::

*****Single Target*****
#show Savage Strike
cast Expose Weakness
cast Dusk to Dawn
cast Fiery Chains
cast Backstab
cast Savage Strike
cast Fiery Spike
cast Swift Shot

*****Finisher*****
#show Scourge of Darkness
cast Scourge of Darkness
cast Blazing Strike
cast Flame Thrust

****Dusk Strike Macro*****
#show Dusk Strike
cast Ebon Fury
cast Dusk Strike

*****Lazy AoE**** Cast Fiery Spike On One Mob First Then Spam
#show Flame Blitz
cast Flame Blitz
cast Weapon Flare
cast Flame Thrust
cast Fiery Spike

6.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::

Savage Strike Macro
Puncture
Dusk Strike Macro
Finisher Macro
Fiery Spike
Flame Blitz
AoE Macro


7.0 – Bard -

7.1 - :::Build:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...vkGGBiGllay/wg




7.2 - :::Macros:::

*****Finisher Heals*****
#show Coda of Restoration
cast Coda of Restoration
cast Power Chord
cast Verse of Vitality

7.3 - :::Buffs:::
Fanfare of Vigor
Fanfare of Power

*****Only One Anthem Can Be Active*****
Anthem of Fervor
Anthem of Competence
Anthem Of Glory

*****Motifs Keep All Three Active*****
Motif of Regeneration
Motif of Bravery
Motif of Tenacity

7.4 - ::e-Buffs:::
***** Single Target*****
Coda of Jeopardy

****AoE*****
Coda of Cowardice
Coda of Distress


7.5 - :::Raid Cooldowns:::
Orchestra of the Planes
Verse of Joy


7.6 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

******See 9.0 For Support Kalerts*****


7.7 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
Cadence
Coda of Restoration Macro
Coda of Jeopardy
Coda of Cowardice
Coda of Distress
Motif of Regeneration
Motif of Bravery
Motif of Tenacity
Riff
Virtuoso
Orchestra of the Planes
Verse of Joy
Multiple Oscillations
Verse Of Occlusion


8.0 – Saboteur -

8.1 - :::Builds:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...BkGiGBllaa8/wg


8.2 - :::Buffs:::
Trap Extension ***MUST BE ON****


8.3 - :::Macros:::
*****For AOE*****
#show Caltrop Charge
suppressmacrofailures
cast [shift] Detonate
cast Carpet Bombing
cast Annihilation Bomb
cast Molotov Cocktail
cast Cloud Maker
cast Fragmentation Bomb
cast Time Bomb
cast Spike Bomb
cast @gtae Booby Trap
cast Splinter Bomb
cast Embers Bomb
cast @gtae Chemical Bomb
cast @gtae Immolation Trap
cast Rapid Setup
cast Caltrop Charge


*****For Single Target*****
#show Spike Charge
suppressmacrofailures
cast [shift] Detonate
cast Carpet Bombing
cast Annihilation Bomb
cast Molotov Cocktail
cast Cloud Maker
cast Fragmentation Bomb
cast Time Bomb
cast Spike Bomb
cast @gtae Booby Trap
cast Splinter Bomb
cast Embers Bomb
cast @gtae Chemical Bomb
cast @gtae Immolation Trap
cast Rapid Setup
cast Spike Charge

8.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::
*None*

8.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
Caltrop Macro For Aoe
Spike Charge Macro For Single Target
Choking Gas Bomb

8.5 - :::Utility:::
Choking Gas Bomb
Adhesive Bomb
Enfeebling Trap


*GET THESE IF YOU RUN SUPPORT *REQUIRED* HEALERS INCLUDED*

9.0 - Buff Debuff Karuul Alerts-

:::Karuul Alert Sub Set 1:::
*Sub Set Should Be Used*

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing



10.0 – 61 Nightblade -

10.1 - :::Build:::
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...kGlaGFaFl4/z8w

10.2 - :::Buffs:::
Predatory Instincts
Smoldering Blades
Ebon Blades


10.3 - :::Macros:::

*****Single Target*****
#show Primal Strike
cast Dusk to Dawn
cast Fiery Chains
cast Primal Strike
cast Twilight Force
*****Finisher*****
#show Scourge of Darkness
cast Touch of Darkness
cast Dark Descent
cast Living Flame
cast Scourge of Darkness
cast Blazing Strike
cast Flame Thrust

*****Dusk Strike*****
#show Dusk Strike
cast Ebon Fury
cast Dusk Strike


10.4 - :::K-Alerts:::

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10.4 - :::What Should Be On Your Bar:::
Primal Strike Macro
Dusk Strike Macro
Finisher Macro
Flame Blitz
Fiery Spike

10.5 - :::Opening Rotation:::
Fiery Spike 1x > Primal Strike Macro 4x *Dusk to Dawn > Fiery Chains > Primal Strike 2x* > Finisher Macro 6x *Touch of Darkness > Dark Descent > Living Flame > Scourge of Darkness > Blazing Strike 3x* > Primal Strike Macro > Finisher

*****NOTE*****
Wait for 5 Stacks of Heat Retention Before Using A Finisher

[Orangu]

for assassin you need to take out expose weakness, poison malice, jagged strike, and fiery spike from your spam macro.

Better to have poison malice on it's own button to time with big raid cooldowns, expose weakness is a waste of energy, jagged strike will cause macro lag, and instead of fiery spike you should have swift shot since it will do more dps if you already have fiery spike rolling and give you runspeed to get back into melee faster.

Also recommend making a finisher macro for it with
#show final blow
cast final blow
cast hasted shot

for the same reasons.

[Zazen]

This post is going to do more harm than good. You would have been better just creating an index with hyperlinks to the established guides.

There is quite a bit of misinformation here and your macros are terrible. This stood out as especially bad:

#show Quick Shot
cast shadow fire
cast Quick Shot
cast Animalism
cast Feral Aggression
petattack

Also the worst practice imaginable for raid tanking:

#show Soul Coalescence
cast Soul Coalescence
cast Planebound Aegis
cast Scatter the Shadows
cast Planar Refuge
cast Physical Wellness

I appreciate what you were trying to do but you don't seem well versed enough in playing a rogue to be the custodian of such a guide.

[R3db4ss]

+1 for the effort,

but maybe you should point out that alot of the makros and other stuff are far away from the optimal setting. Stuff like the Tank build, Ranger makros, Bard makro, etc...

If someone isnt aiming for anything near min/max and wants just some brainless pewpew in the t1 raids, the guide is fine

[Zazen]

+1 for the effort,

but maybe you should point out that alot of the makros and other stuff are far away from the optimal setting. Stuff like the Tank build, Ranger makros, Bard makro, etc...

If someone isnt aiming for anything near min/max and wants just some brainless pewpew in the t1 raids, the guide is fine

You don't need to be a min-maxer to strive for correct information. This macro, for example:

*****Finisher*****
#show Scourge of Darkness
cast Touch of Darkness
cast Dark Descent
cast Living Flame
cast Scourge of Darkness
cast Blazing Strike
cast Flame Thrust

This is really bad no matter where you are playing. Clicking this will waste Living Flame and severely diminish Touch of Darkness if you click this when you are at range. Not to mention wasting a GCD on getting to your ranged finisher.

The Ranger macro for Animalism is the wrong place to use it. It should be in a macro with Twin Shot not in a builder.

These are the sorts of fundamental problems with the information and not any sort of elitist viewpoint.

[littleboyj]

This post is going to do more harm than good. You would have been better just creating an index with hyperlinks to the established guides.

There is quite a bit of misinformation here and your macros are terrible.

I appreciate what you were trying to do but you don't seem well versed enough in playing a rogue to be the custodian of such a guide.

I agree with this. I appreciate your effort, but almost all of these specs, as well as the macros for them are completely misinforming, as well as just all around terrible. No offense intended, but I read the bard section of this, and the macros and information made my eyes bleed >.< As Zaz said, maybe you should have links to some of the more well versed rogue guides on the sections that people have already done guides on? That would be nice to have a master-postey thing for good rogue guides and Kalert codes

mostly since there havnt been very many compiled master posts for recent patches.

[TheCrazyKlown]

@Zazen, The ranger builder macro is like for a reason, again dont need 10 pages of why, its here to let people see what's out there and let them do a bit of their own testing.

The Tank cd maco is me being lazy as i have all of them on my bar as well for various reasons

For people who bash the macros and builds, more than welcome to move pages or parse against me with your setup

For those who have actual questions comment away ill explain or send me PM and ill do my best to meet up ingame.

[R3db4ss]

You don't need to be a min-maxer to strive for correct information. This macro, for example:

*****Finisher*****
#show Scourge of Darkness
cast Touch of Darkness
cast Dark Descent
cast Living Flame
cast Scourge of Darkness
cast Blazing Strike
cast Flame Thrust

This is really bad no matter where you are playing. Clicking this will waste Living Flame and severely diminish Touch of Darkness if you click this when you are at range. Not to mention wasting a GCD on getting to your ranged finisher.

The Ranger macro for Animalism is the wrong place to use it. It should be in a macro with Twin Shot not in a builder.

These are the sorts of fundamental problems with the information and not any sort of elitist viewpoint.

maybe min max is the wrong phrase, but still, if ppl want just to play some brainless raids its enough. I know alot a rogues playing with gimped makros like that, just because they dont care and the dps is enough for t1 content.

And you dont need to tell me what makros are wrong, i know them

[TheCrazyKlown]

@R3db4ss, And what do you pull with 61NB self buffed on a dummy with your setup?

Actually i couldn't care less what you pull, or what your setup is, keep this useful for people to use it and stop trying to bash and flame war.

If someone has a legit question, do ask, before anyone can say something is wrong, test it and prove me wrong. Good luck.

It's merely a a compiled list of how I have my specs, macros, and some basic opening rotations for raids. I did not make this a long post per spec as why this and why that as most people can read and test a few things on their own.

[Zazen]

@R3db4ss, And what do you pull with 61NB self buffed on a dummy with your setup?

Actually i couldn't care less what you pull, or what your setup is, keep this useful for people to use it and stop trying to bash and flame war.

If someone has a legit question, do ask, before anyone can say something is wrong, test it and prove me wrong. Good luck.

It's merely a a compiled list of how I have my specs, macros, and some basic opening rotations for raids. I did not make this a long post per spec as why this and why that as most people can read and test a few things on their own.

You posted a guide in the guides section of a public forum. When you do this you are implicitly opening it to public scrutiny and hence critique.

It is also incumbent upon the author to publish, to the best of his/her knowledge, correct information. Using your Ranger macro for Animalism as an example, it is no less complicated to have it macro'd in a builder than the actual finisher (Twin Shot). However your dps will be discernibly better if you macro it in the correct place.

You also cannot publish a macro like your tank CD macro and then later respond to criticism by saying you have all the abilities on separate hotkeys. That sends an ambiguous message to new people reading the guide.

Your intentions were good in that you were trying to create a one-stop-shop for rogue information for new and returning players. What you have created is a one-stop-shop of poor practices and misinformation.

Again, kudos to you for trying to make a positive contribution but to reiterate this will do more harm than good to players looking for rogue information.

[TheCrazyKlown]

You posted a guide in the guides section of a public forum. When you do this you are implicitly opening it to public scrutiny and hence critique.

It is also incumbent upon the author to publish, to the best of his/her knowledge, correct information. Using your Ranger macro for Animalism as an example, it is no less complicated to have it macro'd in a builder than the actual finisher (Twin Shot). However your dps will be discernibly better if you macro it in the correct place.

You also cannot publish a macro like your tank CD macro and then later respond to criticism by saying you have all the abilities on separate hotkeys. That sends an ambiguous message to new people reading the guide.

Your intentions were good in that you were trying to create a one-stop-shop for rogue information for new and returning players. What you have created is a one-stop-shop of poor practices and misinformation.

Again, kudos to you for trying to make a positive contribution but to reiterate this will do more harm than good to players looking for rogue information.

Did you test my setups? if not then shhhh, Have a nice day. although it is Interesting everyone i've given this to has done substantially better dps. I guess they have a better reading comprehension than some others, my apologizes for assuming people are more literate than others.

[TheGrinnz]

Did you test my setups? if not then shhhh, Have a nice day. although it is Interesting everyone i've given this to has done substantially better dps. I guess they have a better reading comprehension than some others, my apologizes for assuming people are more literate than others.

Nothing he has said requires testing, they are abilities and setups raiding rogues use on a daily basis.

[Drbuffer]

Thank you for putting this info together especially the KAlerts for each spec.

As a fresh 60 trying to get into raiding, I agree with you about not needing 10 pages of debate to start learning a spec. nowhere did you clam this is for min-maxing so i'm ok with your macro's and understand the ideas behind them.

for example......it would be better to use his Ranger macro and let it cast Animalism and Feral Aggression then for a new-to-Ranger person to not use the abilities at all.

[Zazen]

Did you test my setups? if not then shhhh, Have a nice day. although it is Interesting everyone i've given this to has done substantially better dps. I guess they have a better reading comprehension than some others, my apologizes for assuming people are more literate than others.

I don't need to test these. I've already tested, parsed and documented hundreds of permutations for rogue builds and I know your builds and macros are bad.

I play at a pretty high level where my parses on the hardest fights in the game are compared to other good players. If I used any information in your guide these same players would notice a marked dip in performance.

You information is faulty at best but a more realistic assessment is that nearly all of it is incorrect to degrees varying from sub-optimal to completely incorrect.

Again, as an example, I refer back to your Ranger macro for Animalism - please justify why you placed it in your builder macro as opposed to a Twin Shot macro. It makes little sense to have it there when our hardest hitting ability is Twin Shot and you'd want as many Twin Shots boosted by Animalism as possible.

[R3db4ss]

@R3db4ss, And what do you pull with 61NB self buffed on a dummy with your setup?

Actually i couldn't care less what you pull, or what your setup is, keep this useful for people to use it and stop trying to bash and flame war.

If someone has a legit question, do ask, before anyone can say something is wrong, test it and prove me wrong. Good luck.

It's merely a a compiled list of how I have my specs, macros, and some basic opening rotations for raids. I did not make this a long post per spec as why this and why that as most people can read and test a few things on their own.

LoL, dont get me wrong i think the effort/idea is good. giving new players a quick overview, but on the same topic its a FACT your makros/builds/rotas are not perfect. So my points stand just give ppl a heads up its not a min/max guide its a overview of builds/makros you play and all would be fine.

And pls if you gonna be pissed about every critic, dont keep posting guides.