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    Default Rogue Specs/Macros/K-Alerts

    What I figured would be best for new and old players alike is to just provide a compiled list of Specs, Macro, K-Alerts, Basic Rotations, and let the community figure out what they like.

    Most people do not need 10 pages of how to play a spec, but a basic idea they can build on and find a sense of their own way.

    Are these raid specs? Yes, they can be used in the current raids. It's what spec do you need for the boss you're on is the question, or testing, and comfort level of each person.



    :::::Rogue Specs :::::
    _______________________________
    --Tank/DPS/Support--
    0.1-Useful Stuff-
    1-Tank *8-Tact/7-Bard*
    2- 61Ranger-
    3- 61 Marksman-
    4- 61 Bladedancer-
    5- 61 Assassin-
    6- Nightblade/Sin-
    7- 61 Bard-
    8- 61 Saboteur-
    9 - Support Karuul Alerts -
    10 - 61 Nightblade


    0.1.1 - Link To get Karuul Alert, King Boss Mode, and Other Add Ons.
    http://www.curse.com/addons/rift

    0.1.2 - Need To Track DPS, Hps, Among Other Things?
    Rift Meter Is My Preference
    http://www.curse.com/addons/rift/rift-meter

    0.1.3 - Need Karuul Alert, aka K-Alert?
    http://www.curse.com/addons/rift/karuulalert

    1.0 - Tank *61-Riftstalker/8-Tact/7-Bard* -

    1.1 - :::Build:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...kGlaGBiGB4/Th0

    1.2 - :::Buffs:::
    Guardian Phase
    Planebound Resilience
    Fanfare of Vigor
    Curative Engine
    1.3 - :::Macros:::
    ***** Single Target *****
    #show Planar Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Phantom Blow
    cast Guarded Steel
    cast Planar Strike
    cast Empyrean Bolt
    cast Break Free

    ***** AoE *****
    #show Rift Disturbance
    cast Rift Disturbance
    cast Wrath of the Planes
    cast Phantom Blow
    cast Planar Strike
    cast Empyrean Bolt

    ***** Ports *****
    #show Shadow Blitz
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Shadow Blitz
    cast Shadow Assault
    cast Shadow Stalk
    cast Guarded Steel
    cast Break Free

    ***** Interrupt @Focus *****
    #show Planar Disruption
    cast @focus Planar Disruption

    ***** Cool Downs *****
    #show Soul Coalescence
    cast Soul Coalescence
    cast Planebound Aegis
    cast Scatter the Shadows
    cast Planar Refuge
    cast Physical Wellness

    ****NOTE****
    Place each cool down on your bar, this is just the order I most commonly use them.


    1.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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    1.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
    Planar Strike Macro
    Instigate *Single Target Taunt*
    Planar Attraction *5 Target Taunt/Pull*
    Rift Disturbance Macro
    Ports Macro
    Planar Splash
    Soul Coalescence
    Planebound Aegis
    Scatter the Shadows
    Planar Refuge
    physical Wellness
    Defer Death
    Rift Prison
    Interrupt Macro *Planar Disruption*
    Cleanse Soul *If You Have The PA, Tier 1 PVP*
    Memory Capture
    Flash Back
    Shadow Shift

    1.6 :::Utility:::
    See Cool Down Macro
    Interrupt
    2 Self Cleanses *If You Have The PA*


    2.0 - Ranger -

    2.1 - :::Build:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...kllaGGlaB4/y9E

    2.2 - :::Buffs:::
    Ravenous Instincts
    Feral Instincts
    Hellfire Blades
    Virulent Poison
    Spirit Of The Wilderness


    2.3 - :::Macros:::
    #show Quick Shot
    cast shadow fire
    cast Quick Shot
    cast Animalism
    cast Feral Aggression
    petattack


    #show Ace Shot
    cast Ace Shot
    cast Animalism
    cast Feral Aggression
    petattack

    #show Call: Blood Raptor
    cast Hasten Call
    cast Call: Blood Raptor


    2.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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    2.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
    Quick Shot Macro
    Twin Shot
    Pierce Shot
    Ace Shot Macro
    Head Shot
    Trick Shot *AoE*
    Rain Of arrows *AoE*
    ConCussive Blast *Aoe Interrupt*

    2.6 - :::Opening Rotation:::
    Splinter Shot > Ace Shot macro 3x *Feral Aggression > Animalism > Ace Shot* > Pierce Shot > Quick Shot Macro 1x *Shadow Fire* > Head Shot > Quick Shot Macro 4x > Twin Shot > Splinter Shot > Quick Shot Macro 3x > Twin Shot

    ***Maintain The Following***
    Splinter Shot
    Ace Shot Debuff
    Shadow Fire Buff
    Beastial Fury *Applied After Head Shot*
    Pierce Shot *If more than 1 ranger, decide who cast it*

    2.7 - :::Utility:::
    ConCussive Blast *Aoe Interrupt*
    Escape Artist *Ranger Version Of Break Free*


    3.0 - Marksman -

    3.1 - :::Build:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...AkGlllkGGyy/wg


    3.2 - :::Buffs:::
    Silver Tip Munitions
    Static Shock Munitions

    3.3 - :::Macros:::
    #Show Rapid Fire Shot
    cast Free Recoil
    cast Rapid Fire Shot
    cast Hasted Shot

    #show Empowered Shot
    cast Bull’s Eye
    cast Empowered Shot
    cast Shift Shot


    3.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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    3.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
    Swift Shot Macro
    Rapid Fire Shot Macro
    Strafe
    Quick Reload
    Decoy
    Chain of Destruction

    3.5 - :::Opening Rotation:::
    Devoy > Strafe > Rapid Fire Shot Macro 2x * Free Recoil > Rapid Fire Shot* > Empowered Shot Macro 2x *Bull’s Eye > Empowered Shot* > Quick Reload > Strafe > Rapid Fire Shot Macro 2x * Free Recoil > Rapid Fire Shot* > Empowered Shot Macro 2x *Bull’s Eye > Empowered Shot* > Empowered Shot Macro *Till 5 Combo Points* > Rapid Fire Shot Macro


    3.6 - :::Utility:::
    Deaden - Interrupt
    Erradicate - Purge *3 Sec CD*


    4.0 – Bladedancer -

    4.1 - :::Build:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...kGB5liGkG8/y9E


    4.2 - :::Buffs:::
    Hellfire Blades
    Virulent Poison
    Combat Preparation

    4.3 - :::Macros:::
    *****None*****


    4.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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    4.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
    Binary Strike
    Quick Strike
    Dauntless Strike
    Double Strike
    Blade Soul And Parity
    Dualism
    Fated Blades
    Double Coup
    Blade Tempo

    4.5 - :::Rhythmic Cool Down Order:::
    Blade Soul And Parity > Dualism > Fated Blades > Double Coup


    5.0 – Assassin -

    5.1 - :::Build:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...ykFlliGAGl4/wg


    5.2 - :::Buffs:::
    Malicious Poison
    Lethal Poison
    Virulent Poison
    Hidden Viel

    5.3 - :::Macros:::
    #show Savage Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Poison Malice
    cast Expose Weakness
    cast Jagged Strike
    cast Serpent Strike
    cast Backstab
    cast Savage Strike
    cast Fiery Spike


    5.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

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    5.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
    Savage Strike Macro
    Puncture
    Fiery Spike
    Final Blow
    Impale
    Thread of Death
    Leaping Plunge
    Enduring Brew
    Stealth
    Slip Away

    5.6 - :::Rotation:::
    Priority DoT Spec, Get Kalerts to assist.


    6.0 – Nightblade/Sin -

    6.1 - :::Build:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...48/wkciil2Gp8w


    6.2 - :::Buffs:::
    Virulent Poison
    Lethal Poison

    6.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::


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    6.5 - :::Macros:::

    *****Single Target*****
    #show Savage Strike
    cast Expose Weakness
    cast Dusk to Dawn
    cast Fiery Chains
    cast Backstab
    cast Savage Strike
    cast Fiery Spike
    cast Swift Shot

    *****Finisher*****
    #show Scourge of Darkness
    cast Scourge of Darkness
    cast Blazing Strike
    cast Flame Thrust

    ****Dusk Strike Macro*****
    #show Dusk Strike
    cast Ebon Fury
    cast Dusk Strike

    *****Lazy AoE**** Cast Fiery Spike On One Mob First Then Spam
    #show Flame Blitz
    cast Flame Blitz
    cast Weapon Flare
    cast Flame Thrust
    cast Fiery Spike

    6.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::

    Savage Strike Macro
    Puncture
    Dusk Strike Macro
    Finisher Macro
    Fiery Spike
    Flame Blitz
    AoE Macro


    7.0 – Bard -

    7.1 - :::Build:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...vkGGBiGllay/wg




    7.2 - :::Macros:::

    *****Finisher Heals*****
    #show Coda of Restoration
    cast Coda of Restoration
    cast Power Chord
    cast Verse of Vitality

    7.3 - :::Buffs:::
    Fanfare of Vigor
    Fanfare of Power

    *****Only One Anthem Can Be Active*****
    Anthem of Fervor
    Anthem of Competence
    Anthem Of Glory

    *****Motifs Keep All Three Active*****
    Motif of Regeneration
    Motif of Bravery
    Motif of Tenacity

    7.4 - ::e-Buffs:::
    ***** Single Target*****
    Coda of Jeopardy

    ****AoE*****
    Coda of Cowardice
    Coda of Distress


    7.5 - :::Raid Cooldowns:::
    Orchestra of the Planes
    Verse of Joy


    7.6 - :::Karuul Alerts:::

    ******See 9.0 For Support Kalerts*****


    7.7 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
    Cadence
    Coda of Restoration Macro
    Coda of Jeopardy
    Coda of Cowardice
    Coda of Distress
    Motif of Regeneration
    Motif of Bravery
    Motif of Tenacity
    Riff
    Virtuoso
    Orchestra of the Planes
    Verse of Joy
    Multiple Oscillations
    Verse Of Occlusion


    8.0 – Saboteur -

    8.1 - :::Builds:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...BkGiGBllaa8/wg


    8.2 - :::Buffs:::
    Trap Extension ***MUST BE ON****


    8.3 - :::Macros:::
    *****For AOE*****
    #show Caltrop Charge
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast [shift] Detonate
    cast Carpet Bombing
    cast Annihilation Bomb
    cast Molotov Cocktail
    cast Cloud Maker
    cast Fragmentation Bomb
    cast Time Bomb
    cast Spike Bomb
    cast @gtae Booby Trap
    cast Splinter Bomb
    cast Embers Bomb
    cast @gtae Chemical Bomb
    cast @gtae Immolation Trap
    cast Rapid Setup
    cast Caltrop Charge


    *****For Single Target*****
    #show Spike Charge
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast [shift] Detonate
    cast Carpet Bombing
    cast Annihilation Bomb
    cast Molotov Cocktail
    cast Cloud Maker
    cast Fragmentation Bomb
    cast Time Bomb
    cast Spike Bomb
    cast @gtae Booby Trap
    cast Splinter Bomb
    cast Embers Bomb
    cast @gtae Chemical Bomb
    cast @gtae Immolation Trap
    cast Rapid Setup
    cast Spike Charge

    8.4 - :::Karuul Alerts:::
    *None*

    8.5 - :::What Should Be Accessible On Your Bar:::
    Caltrop Macro For Aoe
    Spike Charge Macro For Single Target
    Choking Gas Bomb

    8.5 - :::Utility:::
    Choking Gas Bomb
    Adhesive Bomb
    Enfeebling Trap


    *GET THESE IF YOU RUN SUPPORT *REQUIRED* HEALERS INCLUDED*

    9.0 - Buff Debuff Karuul Alerts-

    :::Karuul Alert Sub Set 1:::
    *Sub Set Should Be Used*

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing



    10.0 – 61 Nightblade -

    10.1 - :::Build:::
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j...kGlaGFaFl4/z8w

    10.2 - :::Buffs:::
    Predatory Instincts
    Smoldering Blades
    Ebon Blades


    10.3 - :::Macros:::

    *****Single Target*****
    #show Primal Strike
    cast Dusk to Dawn
    cast Fiery Chains
    cast Primal Strike
    cast Twilight Force
    *****Finisher*****
    #show Scourge of Darkness
    cast Touch of Darkness
    cast Dark Descent
    cast Living Flame
    cast Scourge of Darkness
    cast Blazing Strike
    cast Flame Thrust

    *****Dusk Strike*****
    #show Dusk Strike
    cast Ebon Fury
    cast Dusk Strike


    10.4 - :::K-Alerts:::

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    10.4 - :::What Should Be On Your Bar:::
    Primal Strike Macro
    Dusk Strike Macro
    Finisher Macro
    Flame Blitz
    Fiery Spike

    10.5 - :::Opening Rotation:::
    Fiery Spike 1x > Primal Strike Macro 4x *Dusk to Dawn > Fiery Chains > Primal Strike 2x* > Finisher Macro 6x *Touch of Darkness > Dark Descent > Living Flame > Scourge of Darkness > Blazing Strike 3x* > Primal Strike Macro > Finisher

    *****NOTE*****
    Wait for 5 Stacks of Heat Retention Before Using A Finisher
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    for assassin you need to take out expose weakness, poison malice, jagged strike, and fiery spike from your spam macro.

    Better to have poison malice on it's own button to time with big raid cooldowns, expose weakness is a waste of energy, jagged strike will cause macro lag, and instead of fiery spike you should have swift shot since it will do more dps if you already have fiery spike rolling and give you runspeed to get back into melee faster.

    Also recommend making a finisher macro for it with
    #show final blow
    cast final blow
    cast hasted shot

    for the same reasons.


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    This post is going to do more harm than good. You would have been better just creating an index with hyperlinks to the established guides.

    There is quite a bit of misinformation here and your macros are terrible. This stood out as especially bad:
    Code:
    #show Quick Shot
    cast shadow fire
    cast Quick Shot
    cast Animalism
    cast Feral Aggression
    petattack
    Also the worst practice imaginable for raid tanking:
    Code:
    #show Soul Coalescence
    cast Soul Coalescence
    cast Planebound Aegis
    cast Scatter the Shadows
    cast Planar Refuge
    cast Physical Wellness
    I appreciate what you were trying to do but you don't seem well versed enough in playing a rogue to be the custodian of such a guide.

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    +1 for the effort,

    but maybe you should point out that alot of the makros and other stuff are far away from the optimal setting. Stuff like the Tank build, Ranger makros, Bard makro, etc...

    If someone isnt aiming for anything near min/max and wants just some brainless pewpew in the t1 raids, the guide is fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3db4ss View Post
    +1 for the effort,

    but maybe you should point out that alot of the makros and other stuff are far away from the optimal setting. Stuff like the Tank build, Ranger makros, Bard makro, etc...

    If someone isnt aiming for anything near min/max and wants just some brainless pewpew in the t1 raids, the guide is fine
    You don't need to be a min-maxer to strive for correct information. This macro, for example:

    Code:
    *****Finisher*****
    #show Scourge of Darkness
    cast Touch of Darkness
    cast Dark Descent
    cast Living Flame
    cast Scourge of Darkness
    cast Blazing Strike
    cast Flame Thrust
    This is really bad no matter where you are playing. Clicking this will waste Living Flame and severely diminish Touch of Darkness if you click this when you are at range. Not to mention wasting a GCD on getting to your ranged finisher.

    The Ranger macro for Animalism is the wrong place to use it. It should be in a macro with Twin Shot not in a builder.

    These are the sorts of fundamental problems with the information and not any sort of elitist viewpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazen View Post
    This post is going to do more harm than good. You would have been better just creating an index with hyperlinks to the established guides.

    There is quite a bit of misinformation here and your macros are terrible.

    I appreciate what you were trying to do but you don't seem well versed enough in playing a rogue to be the custodian of such a guide.
    I agree with this. I appreciate your effort, but almost all of these specs, as well as the macros for them are completely misinforming, as well as just all around terrible. No offense intended, but I read the bard section of this, and the macros and information made my eyes bleed >.< As Zaz said, maybe you should have links to some of the more well versed rogue guides on the sections that people have already done guides on? That would be nice to have a master-postey thing for good rogue guides and Kalert codes

    mostly since there havnt been very many compiled master posts for recent patches.
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    @Zazen, The ranger builder macro is like for a reason, again dont need 10 pages of why, its here to let people see what's out there and let them do a bit of their own testing.

    The Tank cd maco is me being lazy as i have all of them on my bar as well for various reasons

    For people who bash the macros and builds, more than welcome to move pages or parse against me with your setup

    For those who have actual questions comment away ill explain or send me PM and ill do my best to meet up ingame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazen View Post
    You don't need to be a min-maxer to strive for correct information. This macro, for example:

    Code:
    *****Finisher*****
    #show Scourge of Darkness
    cast Touch of Darkness
    cast Dark Descent
    cast Living Flame
    cast Scourge of Darkness
    cast Blazing Strike
    cast Flame Thrust
    This is really bad no matter where you are playing. Clicking this will waste Living Flame and severely diminish Touch of Darkness if you click this when you are at range. Not to mention wasting a GCD on getting to your ranged finisher.

    The Ranger macro for Animalism is the wrong place to use it. It should be in a macro with Twin Shot not in a builder.

    These are the sorts of fundamental problems with the information and not any sort of elitist viewpoint.

    maybe min max is the wrong phrase, but still, if ppl want just to play some brainless raids its enough. I know alot a rogues playing with gimped makros like that, just because they dont care and the dps is enough for t1 content.

    And you dont need to tell me what makros are wrong, i know them
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    @R3db4ss, And what do you pull with 61NB self buffed on a dummy with your setup?

    Actually i couldn't care less what you pull, or what your setup is, keep this useful for people to use it and stop trying to bash and flame war.

    If someone has a legit question, do ask, before anyone can say something is wrong, test it and prove me wrong. Good luck.

    It's merely a a compiled list of how I have my specs, macros, and some basic opening rotations for raids. I did not make this a long post per spec as why this and why that as most people can read and test a few things on their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCrazyKlown View Post
    @R3db4ss, And what do you pull with 61NB self buffed on a dummy with your setup?

    Actually i couldn't care less what you pull, or what your setup is, keep this useful for people to use it and stop trying to bash and flame war.

    If someone has a legit question, do ask, before anyone can say something is wrong, test it and prove me wrong. Good luck.

    It's merely a a compiled list of how I have my specs, macros, and some basic opening rotations for raids. I did not make this a long post per spec as why this and why that as most people can read and test a few things on their own.
    You posted a guide in the guides section of a public forum. When you do this you are implicitly opening it to public scrutiny and hence critique.

    It is also incumbent upon the author to publish, to the best of his/her knowledge, correct information. Using your Ranger macro for Animalism as an example, it is no less complicated to have it macro'd in a builder than the actual finisher (Twin Shot). However your dps will be discernibly better if you macro it in the correct place.

    You also cannot publish a macro like your tank CD macro and then later respond to criticism by saying you have all the abilities on separate hotkeys. That sends an ambiguous message to new people reading the guide.

    Your intentions were good in that you were trying to create a one-stop-shop for rogue information for new and returning players. What you have created is a one-stop-shop of poor practices and misinformation.

    Again, kudos to you for trying to make a positive contribution but to reiterate this will do more harm than good to players looking for rogue information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazen View Post
    You posted a guide in the guides section of a public forum. When you do this you are implicitly opening it to public scrutiny and hence critique.

    It is also incumbent upon the author to publish, to the best of his/her knowledge, correct information. Using your Ranger macro for Animalism as an example, it is no less complicated to have it macro'd in a builder than the actual finisher (Twin Shot). However your dps will be discernibly better if you macro it in the correct place.

    You also cannot publish a macro like your tank CD macro and then later respond to criticism by saying you have all the abilities on separate hotkeys. That sends an ambiguous message to new people reading the guide.

    Your intentions were good in that you were trying to create a one-stop-shop for rogue information for new and returning players. What you have created is a one-stop-shop of poor practices and misinformation.

    Again, kudos to you for trying to make a positive contribution but to reiterate this will do more harm than good to players looking for rogue information.
    Did you test my setups? if not then shhhh, Have a nice day. although it is Interesting everyone i've given this to has done substantially better dps. I guess they have a better reading comprehension than some others, my apologizes for assuming people are more literate than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCrazyKlown View Post
    Did you test my setups? if not then shhhh, Have a nice day. although it is Interesting everyone i've given this to has done substantially better dps. I guess they have a better reading comprehension than some others, my apologizes for assuming people are more literate than others.
    Nothing he has said requires testing, they are abilities and setups raiding rogues use on a daily basis.

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    Thank you for putting this info together especially the KAlerts for each spec.

    As a fresh 60 trying to get into raiding, I agree with you about not needing 10 pages of debate to start learning a spec. nowhere did you clam this is for min-maxing so i'm ok with your macro's and understand the ideas behind them.

    for example......it would be better to use his Ranger macro and let it cast Animalism and Feral Aggression then for a new-to-Ranger person to not use the abilities at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCrazyKlown View Post
    Did you test my setups? if not then shhhh, Have a nice day. although it is Interesting everyone i've given this to has done substantially better dps. I guess they have a better reading comprehension than some others, my apologizes for assuming people are more literate than others.
    I don't need to test these. I've already tested, parsed and documented hundreds of permutations for rogue builds and I know your builds and macros are bad.

    I play at a pretty high level where my parses on the hardest fights in the game are compared to other good players. If I used any information in your guide these same players would notice a marked dip in performance.

    You information is faulty at best but a more realistic assessment is that nearly all of it is incorrect to degrees varying from sub-optimal to completely incorrect.

    Again, as an example, I refer back to your Ranger macro for Animalism - please justify why you placed it in your builder macro as opposed to a Twin Shot macro. It makes little sense to have it there when our hardest hitting ability is Twin Shot and you'd want as many Twin Shots boosted by Animalism as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCrazyKlown View Post
    @R3db4ss, And what do you pull with 61NB self buffed on a dummy with your setup?

    Actually i couldn't care less what you pull, or what your setup is, keep this useful for people to use it and stop trying to bash and flame war.

    If someone has a legit question, do ask, before anyone can say something is wrong, test it and prove me wrong. Good luck.

    It's merely a a compiled list of how I have my specs, macros, and some basic opening rotations for raids. I did not make this a long post per spec as why this and why that as most people can read and test a few things on their own.
    LoL, dont get me wrong i think the effort/idea is good. giving new players a quick overview, but on the same topic its a FACT your makros/builds/rotas are not perfect. So my points stand just give ppl a heads up its not a min/max guide its a overview of builds/makros you play and all would be fine.

    And pls if you gonna be pissed about every critic, dont keep posting guides.
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