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    Default Rogue DPS BiS Spreadsheet + Crit Cap Info

    The List
    http://tinyurl.com/roguebestinslot
    This list is meant for PvE.
    It is sorted by the >1187 column which assumes you are above the crit soft cap in raids.

    The Equation
    (((((((STR*1.05)+(DEX*1.05))/2)+AP)*AP_MOD)*2)+(DEX*1.05)+CRIT) below crit soft cap
    (((((((STR*1.05)+(DEX*1.05))/2)+AP)*AP_MOD)*2)+((DEX*1.05)+CRIT)/5) above crit soft cap

    All scores have the 5% stat boost from Resonance added in.
    The AP_MOD is the modifier for specific specs.

    Miscellaneous
    Trinket scores assume a 100% uptime for simplicity.
    Weapon scores do not take weapon speed, weapon damage, or Planar Attunement levels into account. The relic weapons will outperform epic weapons in most cases. If you have invested heavily into one type of weapon PA node, it may surpass others listed.

    Please let me know of any inconsistencies or if you’d like me to add something.
    (The previous thread's title was filling my inbox with inquiries about up-to-dateness.)

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    From 1.4 patch notes:
    COMBAT
    In anticipation of Hammerknell level items entering the game we’ve adjusted certain Combat rating diminishing returns. These changes should only affect fully raid buffed characters in Hammerknell or better equipment.
    * Physical Crit, Spell Crit, and Block ratings have both soft and hard caps updated. These caps only affect the bonuses from your base rating and have no effect on percentage-based bonuses from abilities, buffs, and debuffs.
    * Physical Crit: Now soft caps at 45%, and the return per point of Physical Crit rating above 45% is reduced. Hard caps at 60%.
    Critical Hit rating is the only thing that is affected by this.
    Percent increases (like the ones below) are not affected at all.
    Ruthlessness - 5% Crit - Assassin
    Lethal Poison - 5% Crit - Assassin
    Motif of Focus - 5% Crit - Bard
    Eagle Eye - 5% Crit - Ranger
    Feral Instincts - 3% Crit - Ranger
    Earthen Barrage - 5% Crit - Archon

    Before 45% Soft Cap (1187 rating)
    1% Crit = 26.375 rating
    1 rating = 0.0379% Crit

    After 45% Soft Cap
    1% Crit = 131.75 rating
    1 rating = 0.0076% Crit

    This is a 5x increase once you pass the soft cap, more details can be found here:
    http://tinyurl.com/riftcritcap

    Hard Cap is achieved at ~3163 rating.
    Last edited by Walsingham; 05-21-2012 at 11:07 AM.
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    Thanks for putting in all the hard work into this!

    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    Thanks again for your hard work.


    Got a question... I just got the Eretuu's FCrystal today but cant click it you upgrade the Jagged Earthen Spaulders. I get an error "Missing required ingredients" when I click on the shoulders. I see you have them listed on your table so I will assume that the fusion has been made before... so, am I missing something. If I click on any other item (not the shoulders) it tells me "Item requires a target" so the crystal is making a distiction between up gradable shoulders and anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gynxz View Post
    Thanks again for your hard work.


    Got a question... I just got the Eretuu's FCrystal today but cant click it you upgrade the Jagged Earthen Spaulders. I get an error "Missing required ingredients" when I click on the shoulders. I see you have them listed on your table so I will assume that the fusion has been made before... so, am I missing something. If I click on any other item (not the shoulders) it tells me "Item requires a target" so the crystal is making a distiction between up gradable shoulders and anything else.
    GM reply: They CANT be upgraded if they are enchanted :/ gg trion.

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    Yeah D: I've had many guildies with the same issue.
    It seems the item id changes when you enchant it or something.
    It's a weird bug because when you upgrade PvP gear, enchanted gear works.
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    They'll likely fix that sometime in the future.

    For now, though, sit on'em 'till you get the crystal >_>
    So long, and thanks for all the fish~

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    The stats for the rogue mark boots Infernal Slinkers
    str: 21
    dex:44
    ap: 21
    Crit: 0

    Relic verision... of the Dawn
    str: 22
    dex:46
    ap: 23
    Crit: 0

    As seen on the EI Vendor

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    Thanks, I've updated the stats.
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    12 str
    24 Dex
    19 AP

    New 1.9 Event Lesser, i imagine there is a warrior version also.
    Gnarlwood - Belladonna - P50 Rogue
    Seastone - Puandro - P24 Mage
    Im here for the PvE, not the unbalanced subpar PvP.
    Just Waiting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puandro View Post
    12 str
    24 Dex
    19 AP

    New 1.9 Event Lesser, i imagine there is a warrior version also.
    Thanks, went and added the Warrior one as well to the PTS tab.
    Looks like we have new BiS lessers coming up.
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    Oh and they cost 125 iss each instead of the usual 20 lol.
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    Im here for the PvE, not the unbalanced subpar PvP.
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    Yeah, my first reaction when I saw that cost was "Ouch...."
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    awesome spreadsheet, thanks man.
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    Updated the PvP weapons with the new hit values on the PTS tab.
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    I'm going to sleep.

    PS: Looks like the pvp weapons will be best until you can get your drops/relics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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