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    Default [4.2] - PRIMAL LORD - Lord of the Jungle - PRIMAL LORD - [PVE]

    Hello, I am Munchmatoast, and this is another propeller hat primalist production, we present to you....

    xXxPRIMAL LORD - Lord of the Jungle - PRIMAL LORDxXx

    This spec is interesting in the fact that it has no avatar. It also has no burst, it is very similar to the old dervish where you had strict rotations and messing up is extremely punishing.

    The spec: -

    Legendarys: - Rage of the Beast, Primal Sunder, Font of Bloodlust, Raze

    Buffs: - Apply Font of Bloodlust and Font of Obliteration

    How to play:

    Pre Pre Pull: Get 10 stacks of predatory instincts on a dummy

    Pre-Pull: Rage of the Beast > Spiritualism

    (BF) SS > (SPL) BL > (ST) PS > (RoTB) HW
    (BF) SS > (SPL) BL > (PC) PS > (RoTB)(SUD S) TM

    This is the static rotation for Primal Lord, but really the only reason you'd run Primal lord is if you know you wont mess up or disconnect, as when you mess up once, Vulcanist parses higher (On PTS).

    I have a great macro set for the above making it relatively simple. If you're like me and have over i'd say 200+ ping, I would not recommend macroing many of these. Remember, the rule of OCE people is 1 OGCD ability per GCD -- which does mean yes, we naturally parse less then americans/europeans by default with this spec specifically and overall in all specs.

    If you are Oceanic, don't use sudden strike as you begin to lose GCD's with 2 OGCD abilities unless you madly unmacro and want to min max.

    When spiritualism gets fixed (if it does) so it doesn't consume Rage of the beast stacks, the macros work perfectly with refreshing RoTB. Currently you may need to just watch it incase.

    Macros:
    #show Scything Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Bear's Fury
    cast Scything Strike

    #show Bloodletting
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast @self Spiritualism
    cast Bloodletting

    #show Serpent Tooth
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Serpent Tooth
    cast Primal Sunder

    #show Hawk's Wrath
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the Beast
    cast Hawk's Wrath

    #show Panther Claw
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Panther Claw
    cast Primal Sunder

    #show Thresher's Maw
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the Beast
    cast Sudden Strike
    cast Thresher's Maw
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    I forgot about that mastery that gets you 10 stacks of PI. Predator is definitely the best off soul. Unfortunately pre-stacking PI on a dummy before raid fights is just not viable. However, if you put 2 points in dervish (6% dex), you can spam Icy Cleave to get your stacks up or to keep your stacks up between fights. I think considering you want that 20% at the start of a fight rather than 2 minutes in.. it's worth doing.

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    Well I say that but sometimes it takes up to 20 seconds to get another stack of PI. It would take a looong time to get those 10 stacks. Are there any other abilities that proc PI out of combat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitzkatz View Post
    Well I say that but sometimes it takes up to 20 seconds to get another stack of PI. It would take a looong time to get those 10 stacks. Are there any other abilities that proc PI out of combat?
    Unfortunately no

    So yeah technically the BiS build is 2 dervish, but realistically its 2 berserker.

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    Inb4 next week primal lord nerfed cause GilGily made a guide

    Too bad i dont have rift installed to go give it a shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelouch Vi Britannia View Post
    Inb4 next week primal lord nerfed cause GilGily made a guide

    Too bad i dont have rift installed to go give it a shot
    he's carefree, cause Vulcanist parses higher better than this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjoe View Post
    he's carefree, cause Vulcanist parses higher better than this.
    STOP IT HYUNG I DONT WANT VULC NERFED

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    You can also either spam scorpion pierce or legendary raze from predator to build your stacks, but the pi stacks are 1 per 12secs

    Also i found out if you @self Spiritualism before RotB, pre pull or during fight, spritualism wont consume rotb stacks.
    Last edited by Ragniros; 07-14-2017 at 07:35 AM.

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    [4.2] - PRIMAL LORD - Lord of the Jungle - PRIMAL LORD - [PVE]-001.jpg


    Legendarys: Rage of the Beast, Primal Sunder, Font of Bloodlust, Blindside, Raging Waters

    Buffs: - Apply Font of Bloodlust, Font of Obliteration

    Get 10 stacks of predatory instincts, use Scorpion Pierce

    Pre-Pull: Rage of the Beast, Spiritualism

    Opener:
    When Full Fury

    Raging Waters (20p cunning for ST) > (ST) PS > HW
    (BF) SS > BL > (PC) PS > BS > (Sudden) TM

    Rotation:
    (BF) SS > BL > (ST) PS > HW
    (BF) SS > BL > (PC) PS > BS(when BS and Sudden is ready) > (Sudden)TM

    Opener:
    When Full Fury

    Raging Waters > (3)3 > 4
    (1)1 > 2 > (5)5 > 7 > (6)6

    Rotation:
    (1)1 > 2 > (3)3 > 4
    (1)1 > 2 > (5)5 > 7(when BS and Sudden is ready) > (6)6

    Macros:

    1.
    #show Bear's Fury
    suppressmacrofailures
    use Reliquary of Rage
    cast @self Spiritualism
    cast Rage of the Beast
    cast Bear's Fury
    cast Scything Strike

    2.
    #show Bloodletting
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast @self Spiritualism
    cast Bloodletting

    3.
    #show Serpent Tooth
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Serpent Tooth
    cast Primal Sunder

    4.
    #show Hawk's Wrath
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the Beast
    cast Hawk's Wrath

    5.
    #show Panther Claw
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Panther Claw
    cast Primal Sunder

    6.
    #show Thresher's Maw
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the Beast
    cast Sudden Strike
    cast Thresher's Maw

    7.
    #show Blindside
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Blindside
    Last edited by jsjoe; 07-14-2017 at 09:10 AM.
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    I would still rather use derv with 2 points for rockslide-charge, root, & damage with no focus change. Yea the raging waters is a nice idea if you cant build pi on dummy for focus to reset to harmony.
    Last edited by Ragniros; 07-14-2017 at 09:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjoe View Post
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    Blindside is not worth it - especially not since it was nerfed to 50% bonus damage. Ultimately it serves to do less BF/HW/TM over a fight. The only thing you can really get away with is putting Sudden Strike on a TM macro.
    Last edited by Wynford; 07-14-2017 at 11:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragniros View Post
    You can also either spam scorpion pierce or legendary raze from predator to build your stacks, but the pi stacks are 1 per 12secs

    Also i found out if you @self Spiritualism before RotB, pre pull or during fight, spritualism wont consume rotb stacks.
    Good idea with SP/LRaze didnt test em. I don't know if casting it before RoTB means it doesn't get 100% buffed. Haven't tested.

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    Legendarys: Rage of the Beast, Primal Sunder, Font of Bloodlust, Blindside, Raging Waters

    Buffs: - Apply Font of Bloodlust, Font of Obliteration

    Get 10 stacks of predatory instincts, use Scorpion Pierce

    Pre-Pull: Rage of the Beast, Spiritualism

    Opener:
    When Full Fury

    Raging Waters (20p cunning for ST) > (ST) PS > HW
    (BF) SS > BL > (PC) PS > BS > (Sudden) TM

    Rotation:
    (BF) SS > BL > (ST) PS > HW
    (BF) SS > BL > (PC) PS > BS(when BS and Sudden is ready) > (Sudden)TM

    Opener:
    When Full Fury

    Raging Waters > (3)3 > 4
    (1)1 > 2 > (5)5 > 7 > (6)6

    Rotation:
    (1)1 > 2 > (3)3 > 4
    (1)1 > 2 > (5)5 > 7(when BS and Sudden is ready) > (6)6

    Macros:

    1.
    #show Bear's Fury
    suppressmacrofailures
    use Reliquary of Rage
    cast @self Spiritualism
    cast Rage of the Beast
    cast Bear's Fury
    cast Scything Strike

    2.
    #show Bloodletting
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast @self Spiritualism
    cast Bloodletting

    3.
    #show Serpent Tooth
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Serpent Tooth
    cast Primal Sunder

    4.
    #show Hawk's Wrath
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the Beast
    cast Hawk's Wrath

    5.
    #show Panther Claw
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Panther Claw
    cast Primal Sunder

    6.
    #show Thresher's Maw
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the Beast
    cast Sudden Strike
    cast Thresher's Maw

    7.
    #show Blindside
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Blindside
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynford View Post
    Blindside is not worth it - especially not since it was nerfed to 50% bonus damage. Ultimately it serves to do less BF/HW/TM over a fight. The only thing you can really get away with is putting Sudden Strike on a TM macro.
    This pretty much. Blindside is not worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynford View Post
    Blindside is not worth it - especially not since it was nerfed to 50% bonus damage. Ultimately it serves to do less BF/HW/TM over a fight. The only thing you can really get away with is putting Sudden Strike on a TM macro.
    This pretty much. Blindside is not worth it.[/QUOTE]
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    @Gilgad casting spiritualism before RotB, spiritualism still gets the 100% buff

    And my thresher's maw still being a ****, damage varying wildy, ive had 230k hits when cast at 100 cunning, focus goes to harmony so i know its used at the perfect time. Over a 5min parse it gets so low in dps. Just like Zopops parse mine used to be lookin just like that, but last few days the bugs back for me. But i can only ever pull 1.025mil, Nice parses guys
    Last edited by Ragniros; 07-15-2017 at 06:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjoe View Post
    This pretty much. Blindside is not worth it.
    A parse like that is widely variant on crit RNG. I mean you can see your Primal sunder is 30k ahead of the previous one which makes no sense because you got less in so you must have had mad crit.

    The idea is good, but it's just not there especially since Blindside dmg bonus is going from 150% in cunning to 50%.

    It's still not worth it.
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