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    Default [1.11 - DPS] Pyromancer Guide

    Going to try to keep this short, simple, and to the point. hope it helps you guys! (criticism welcomed, we don't get better without it!)

    Spec: http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree#G5Ax0/iGiakkk5l4/h

    Buffs: Pyromancer Armor, Glyphs of Power, Flaring Intellect

    Macros:
    #show Countdown
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Countdown
    cast Flame Bolt
    cast Fireball
    cast Searing Vitality

    #show Heat Wave
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Heat Wave
    cast Flame Sigil
    cast Prime
    cast Countdown
    cast Fireball

    #show Flame Sigil
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Flame Sigil
    cast Prime

    Bar Buttons:
    main macro
    cinderburst
    flame bolt
    internalize charge
    fulminate
    inferno
    flame volley
    sigil macro
    heatwave macro

    Priority ladder:
    Flame Bolt Buff
    Sigil Buff on Cooldown
    Fulminate (with sigil buff)
    Cinder Proc (with internalize if possible)
    Flame Volley (with internalize + sigil buff)
    Countdown
    Fireball spam

    heatwave should be timed as appropriate in fights, trying to avoid moves or disconnects during.
    only use heatwave if your sigil and prime is off cooldown, and do the following: Sigil > Prime > Heatwave Macro (applies a second set of sigil stacks from the reset)

    Build up:
    Flame bolt
    2x fireball
    (check charge and combust, should be at 2 with about 36 charge)
    use withering flames to stack up to 5 combust
    use sigil macro and heatwave macro.

    now go make some fried dragon!
    Last edited by Araenn; 10-22-2012 at 09:50 PM.
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    you skipped fire storm should find a way to add it need some type of aoe

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaddar View Post
    you skipped fire storm should find a way to add it need some type of aoe
    I left that up to personal preference, since there are a few different places to pull the point from. I'm sure people will find the best spot, but for the moment I was more concerned with usable raid STdps.
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    Firestorm is garbage, you're likely better off ST dpsing than using it from my testing.
    Also, you forgot Pillaging Stone in your 'build up' (for those that don't pre-dual).

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    I hadn't considered that use for withering flame. I like. But then you have no charge for IC during heatwave. Do you pop it in the middle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pricia View Post
    I hadn't considered that use for withering flame. I like. But then you have no charge for IC during heatwave. Do you pop it in the middle?
    If you FB => 5x PS => WF, you should have plenty of charge still.
    The other option, of course, is:
    FB => 5x PS => WF => Sigil/Prime => rotation [waiting till last second to HW/Sigil/Prime refresh] and thus the 'rotation' portion would give you more charge as well
    This works too with pre-PSing via:
    FB=>2xFB => WF => Sigil/Prime => rotation [waiting on HW/Sigil/Prime]

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    Default why pillaging stone still

    I am confused why is ps still a dps gain

    casting it * 5 reduces stats by 25
    improved ps gives you back 8% of the amount debuffed so you need the boss debuffed by 313 just to get back the 25 that casting it cost you.

    or am I reading that wrong and it takes into account all the debuffs on the boss and not just your own

    I really really really didn't want to play pyromancer anymore, actually I didn't want to play pyromancer in the first place

    /sad mage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamour View Post
    I am confused why is ps still a dps gain

    casting it * 5 reduces stats by 25
    improved ps gives you back 8% of the amount debuffed so you need the boss debuffed by 313 just to get back the 25 that casting it cost you.

    or am I reading that wrong and it takes into account all the debuffs on the boss and not just your own

    I really really really didn't want to play pyromancer anymore, actually I didn't want to play pyromancer in the first place

    /sad mage
    Casting it once gives you 24% (with 3/3) of the amount debuffed on the boss, and that same amount can be stacked up to 5 times (it does not stack further debuff on the boss), basically the same as before 1.11. It does not reduce your own stats.

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    UGH to early in the morning, I did read the tooltips wrong

    /gumblegrumble pillagingstone grumble

    maybe I can make ele or necro work more better or close enough not to have to pyro

    well I can hope anyway much easier to parse on the PTS now that it is deserted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamour View Post
    UGH to early in the morning, I did read the tooltips wrong

    /gumblegrumble pillagingstone grumble

    maybe I can make ele or necro work more better or close enough not to have to pyro

    well I can hope anyway much easier to parse on the PTS now that it is deserted
    Pillaging Stone is Archon not Pyro, and Archon is one of the best sub-souls for any DPS spec ;)

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    Cinderburst still gives +37 charge when you cast it; is it worth giving up the charge for the damage?

    Until yesterday, I had been using a /cancelaura internalize charge macro with cinderburst; should i switch to /cast [notactive]?
    Last edited by Esper27; 10-17-2012 at 02:22 PM.

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    For those of you copying and pasting macros from here, Heat Wave is 2 words

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renkathos View Post
    For those of you copying and pasting macros from here, Heat Wave is 2 words
    Well damn, did they change that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinnz View Post
    Pillaging Stone is Archon not Pyro
    I know! but it doesn't have to go with every other goshdarn soul

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinnz View Post
    Archon is one of the best sub-souls for any DPS spec ;)
    you are just all wet blankety today aren't you :P yah just go ahead and crush all my non ps casting spec hopes and dreams right now before I barely even get started


    P.S. Kervick, nerf Pillaging Stone

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    Your Heat Wave macro will cause people to overwrite their Countdowns as Heat Wave brings it off CD even though it is still ticking down on the target. Probably shouldn't bother with that.

    Also, why are we putting points into the -10% resistance talent? Isn't that for PvP only? I can't remember seeing a boss resist any portion of my damage in raids, or am I missing something?

    Much rather go with Firestorm and the last two points into something utility like Backdraft, Burning Bonds or Fiery Resolve.

    By the way, here is a 1.11 talent calculator (this was a secret URL for beta testers but as it's live now I doubt the NDA applies) which is currently set to your spec, though I think Ravenous Flames should be tested to determine it's use in PvE.
    Last edited by Tarien; 10-17-2012 at 03:26 PM.
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