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    Je good points, old old 4.5 problem it seems.
    We are comparing 50+ specs on 3 bosses of which at least 2 heavily favor and 1 supports one specific playstyle (midrange intervall burst).

    The Destro pack would fall apart on a max range (35m) engagement. Which is pretty much the only weakness and doest effect it atm.
    Shaman is okay-ish but defenitly could trade some skillgap for performance (double Crushing Base dmg for a 10% total gain)

    Please note that it takes time to see something establish. The destros came out early January but werent a thing til march- still on a 1.5 average back then (alot of conservation buffs around). Now the 1.8 starts to become a thing.
    Shaman- and new reasons to not-onebutton it came around only recently and most clrc surely lowkey still 1b it.
    Same with and the crucial Mimikry hotfix.
    Some pioneers may main it already(or still do) while there are a bunch of players not even aware of patchnotes.
    We could never expect statistics to hard turn post patch in an Instant. We can expect one or another clerc in a Titanx list comming up tho.


    Provoke and EoL don't go with 61 shaman- my bad.

    Some proper encounter with 100% melee uptime+ druid would change the general perception.
    Feel free to compare similar geared classes on gen. Silgen. Most specs aren't that far apart on that boss.

    The Destros whole purpose is to kill Bosses and not alot more.
    Shaman is a flexible dps solution for a healing class which happened to do gud in the past. You could consider Druid the pve spec since it's better at bosses and not alot more.

    Druid minus IoB plus BoL has a compareable controlled mimikry heavy burst variant such as Shaman.

    Shaman is the simpler and more flexible option- at a cost.
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    //Update

    Totems are even better than expected from past experience.
    Even the worst possible tdnm version (unupgradet mage preserv, missing c.a 4k Sp )
    holds firm to the 2h and an average of 1.4m @ c.a 79700k sp. Not exctly explainable through math
    Wisdom and it's Spellcrit has a brutal impact on MB.
    So much, that 8Jus 7Drud becomes worth testing again.
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    Is there any way you could post up more videos of how you laid out your keybinds and macros on this build and your other builds like how you did with the inquisitor guide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dien View Post
    Is there any way you could post up more videos of how you laid out your keybinds and macros on this build and your other builds like how you did with the inquisitor guide?


    Let me know if that helps in any way:

    https://youtu.be/R39oBJwufEY
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    Yes! Thank you so much. I've been looking through your guides and I love them. They are a big help with relearning how to play these classes and specs. The only other question I have is the macros you have in the videos that aren't listed in the guide. I was looking at the rogue leveling guide as well and was confused since some macros weren't listed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dien View Post
    Yes! Thank you so much. I've been looking through your guides and I love them. They are a big help with relearning how to play these classes and specs. The only other question I have is the macros you have in the videos that aren't listed in the guide. I was looking at the rogue leveling guide as well and was confused since some macros weren't listed
    Hmm for that Shaman thing i didn't use anything that's not mentioned in the text.
    If there is more on the bar, they are situational alternatives.

    Keybind one with the name iob is just the default Massive Blow one with Vengeance of the Winter Storm in it.
    The Deep Freeze on altF is the normal one without Massive Blow.

    They would be too unimportant to mention.
    But i will have a look into it. May add a hint to the names in the vid.

    Thanks for the kind words.
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    where i can find ability - Fading Light?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atiedc View Post
    where i can find ability - Fading Light?
    It's a unlock in your Planar Attunement (U by default) In the Dusk section.
    (Dusk unlocks after filling up Life and Death Attunements)

    Basically a second Break Free
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    I am really confused, to many buttons to press whats a simple 2 button macro for this?

    includding the 2 opener ranged shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintminty59 View Post
    I am really confused, to many buttons to press whats a simple 2 button macro for this?

    includding the 2 opener ranged shots.


    Well it's 90% that Maxro #1

    If you want to narrow it down to fewer buttons,

    Use the IoB variant.

    Spoiler!


    Apply Fervent Strike
    (Apply a manual Icy Blow when you feel fancy)
    Use Macro 6) for EoL
    Use Macro 4 for your dmg cd
    Use macro #1 95% of the time.
    Use macro 6) again when the green stuff falls off on your target (20sec uptime)
    Refresh FS once a minute

    That's 4 buttons, expect okay-ish damage.

    But i don't recommend going below that level of complexity
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    Many thanks for this its to much button mashing for me but I give it a go anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Shas View Post


    Well it's 90% that Maxro #1

    If you want to narrow it down to fewer buttons,

    Use the IoB variant.

    Spoiler!


    Apply Fervent Strike
    (Apply a manual Icy Blow when you feel fancy)
    Use Macro 6) for EoL
    Use Macro 4 for your dmg cd
    Use macro #1 95% of the time.
    Use macro 6) again when the green stuff falls off on your target (20sec uptime)
    Refresh FS once a minute

    That's 4 buttons, expect okay-ish damage.

    But i don't recommend going below that level of complexity

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    Default Break Free and Fading Light

    Hello there,
    I am still wondering where to find BREAK FREE and FADING LIGHT.
    Any hint for me?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minimei View Post
    Hello there,
    I am still wondering where to find BREAK FREE and FADING LIGHT.
    Any hint for me?
    Thanks
    When you reach lvl 50, you unlock Planar Attunements. Hexagonal structures to fill up with points in order to unlock stat boni and useful gimmics

    https://www.cadrift.net/gameplay/cha...player-guides/

    Break Free should be in the second field @ War
    Fading Light at the second field @ Dusk

    Both remove crowd control from you and are not relevant for raw output.
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