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    Default 2.2 Shaman "Roation".

    Figured I'd pop this here too incase people don't read other threads etc.

    Ok so I finally got round to this, and I'm sorta loathe to do this because of the amount of work I put into it but I'm sure it's flawed anywho, and feel free to pick it to pieces.

    I'm going to break it down into 4 (transitioning into the 5th) blocks of 15 seconds each (and the first one being 16) for simplicities sake.

    If you feel like you require an explanation for why or how - feel free to ask and I'll reply, but for now I'm simply going to post exactly what I do.

    BLOCK 1: The Opening.

    1. Combined Effort.
    2. Rage of the North.
    3. Frozen Wrath.
    4. Massive Blow.
    5. Rush of Strength
    6. Lightening Hammer.
    7. Vex.
    8. Deep Freeze.
    9. Massive blow.
    10. Jolt.
    11. Crushing Blow.
    12. Eruption of Life.
    13. Crushing blow.
    14. Icy blow.
    15. Icy blow.
    16. Massive blow.
    17. Jolt (most likely) or Icy Blow.

    BLOCK 2: Sealing the deal and beginnings of a less "concrete" rotation.

    1. Combined effort.
    2. Frozen Wrath.
    3. Crushing blow.
    4. Lightening Hammer.
    5. Vex.
    6. Jolt(1) or Eruption of Life(2).
    7. Massive blow.
    8. Jolt/Eruption of life/Icy blow.
    9. Crushing blow.
    10. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    11. Crushing blow.
    12. Jolt/Eruption of life/Icy blow.
    13. Jolt/Eruption of life/Icy Blow.
    14. Massive blow.
    15. Jolt/Eruption of life/Icy blow.

    From 6-15 you'll see the beginnings of the priority system - which really isn't THAT hard to manage. For a Random parse I'm just about to do my 6-15 looked like:

    6. Jolt.
    7. Massive blow.
    8. Eruption of Life.
    9. Crushing blow.
    10. Icy blow.
    11. Crushing blow.
    12. Jolt.
    13. Icy blow.
    14. Massive blow.
    15. Eruption of Life.

    Also note you can do your back to back non physical at any time during this block (between then 2 massive blows) depending on what is up (ideaaaally you want Jolt + EoL to be your back to back NP but it doesn't always work this way).

    BLOCK 3: Keeping it going.

    1. Combined Effort.
    2. Frozen Wrath.
    3. Rush of Strength (should JUST be off CD).
    4. Massive blow.
    5. Lightening Hammer.
    6. Vex.
    7. Crushing blow.
    8. Jolt(1) OR Eruption of Life (2).
    9. Crushing blow.
    10. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    11. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    12. Massive blow.
    13. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    14. Crushing blow.
    15. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    16. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.

    Again just the same priority system as before and practice will get you used to what will be the common patterns of jolt/EoL/icy (and yes there are definitely patterns).

    That last back to back NP may seem strange but it's imperative for CE timing.

    BLOCK 4: Preparation for the next CD block.

    Here is where most shamans fail and is the most important block in ensuring you don't suffer the dreaded shaman "post 1 minute drop" and is also the place where you can "recover" your rotation to account for disconnects and clean everything up in preparation for the next minute.

    1. Combined effort.
    2. Frozen Wrath.
    3. Massive blow.
    4. Lightening Hammer.
    5. Vex.
    6. Crushing blow.
    7. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    8. Crushing blow.
    9. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    10. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    11. Massive Blow.
    12. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    13. Crushing blow.
    14. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.
    15. Jolt/Eruption of Life/Icy blow.

    And that's it! But what you can do is if your timings are off slightly is just LEAVE Frozen Wrath and MB OUT of your rotation for a couple of seconds now and (still use everything else on a priority based system, but wait until those 2 are both off CD until you transition into block one.

    The transition SHOULD be seemless if you get the rotation perfect back into block one (i.e. CE - RoTN - FW etc etc).

    And here is video evidence (not a PERFECT rotation (I missed a couple of jolt procs because bad)) - but it gives you a good idea of what is should look like (by should - I mean what mine does).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zV4c9wbQjI

    PS sorry for the terrible quality free Fraps only does 30 seconds and I'm technoolgically impaired and don't know how to torrent.

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    Thanks again for this Hikos.

    Any chance you might share your macros/keybinds as well?

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    Hikos writing guides, things HAVE changed.

    This is all well and good, but where are my 2 button macros that I should spam just to make things easier!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftFlame View Post
    Hikos writing guides, things HAVE changed.

    This is all well and good, but where are my 2 button macros that I should spam just to make things easier!?!?
    I know right... I never thought I'd see the day either, I've just been content to watch at a distance..

    Buuuut whatevvvvs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zipsfan View Post
    Thanks again for this Hikos.

    Any chance you might share your macros/keybinds as well?
    Mmmmm my keybinds and macros,

    Keybinds are such a subjective thing - and I mean I can post mine for shaman but I dunno if that's gonna help anyone.

    1- Physical Macro
    2 - Non-Physical Macro
    3 - lightening hammer.
    Shift 1 - Jolt.
    Shift 2 - Deep Freeze.
    Shift 3 - Snowbank.
    Q - Break Free.
    Shift C - Ageless Ice.
    C - Spellstrikes Bottle.
    Alt 1 - RoTN.
    Alt 2 - Rush of strength.
    Alt 3 - Eruption of Life.
    Alf F - Ride the lightening.
    Alt Q - Ekkehard's Grasp.
    Shift Q - Vex.
    R - Strike of the maelstorm.
    Shift F - Windwalk.
    Shift R - Interrupt.
    Alt R- Glacial Strike.
    F - Crushing blow.
    T - Icy Blow.
    4 - Vengeance of the winter storm.
    Shift 4 - Vengeance of the primal north.
    Alt 4 - Shield of Oak.
    Shift D - Combined effort.
    D - Avalanche Strike.

    Every other hotkey in shaman is just random crap like buffs, pots, costume etc - it's not a very hot key intensive spec (and I probably have more than you need etc).

    The 2 Macros:

    Non-physical:

    #show Frozen Wrath
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Frozen Wrath
    cast Glacial Strike
    cast Icy Blow

    And no GS doesn't cause macro lag.

    Physical:

    #show Massive Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Massive Blow
    cast Combined Effort
    cast Crushing Blow

    Notice I have everything separate that is lower in the macros than the top, that's so I can ensure my CD's line up minute to minute if my rotation gets outta wack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikos View Post
    Notice I have everything separate that is lower in the macros than the top, that's so I can ensure my CD's line up minute to minute if my rotation gets outta wack.
    This is mainly what I was looking for, I guess I should have framed the question better.

    I'll be giving this a go to see what it can do for my shaman, I spent some time trying to decipher the breakdown you posted with Brutalize at third rather than what seemed normal at fifth but have only brought it up to number four on my breakdown so far.

    I may be fixating too much on that, but what do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zipsfan View Post
    This is mainly what I was looking for, I guess I should have framed the question better.

    I'll be giving this a go to see what it can do for my shaman, I spent some time trying to decipher the breakdown you posted with Brutalize at third rather than what seemed normal at fifth but have only brought it up to number four on my breakdown so far.

    I may be fixating too much on that, but what do I know.
    Brutalise is generally 4th on my parses, only with very good MB crit do I push it up to 3rd (which happen to be the parses I post ;)).

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    Can you post an audio recording of you reading this rotation out loud on your old mic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwharland View Post
    Can you post an audio recording of you reading this rotation out loud on your old mic?
    Preferably in a low key and some Barry Manilow playing in the background.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKj36RO3XeY

    I can't believe that a recording of a TV is the only version of this online
    Last edited by Pork Star; 05-07-2013 at 01:26 PM.

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    NOOO NOT HIKOS!!!!!111!

    THE HORROR!!!!




    (Whatever happened to you quitting for GW2?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffinmans View Post


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    Was there a certain soul spec that you used for shaman?

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    any reason you wouldn't use LH at range during a pull or do you just not attack as you run into the boss?

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    Because having ~80% crit on LH is a dps gain rather than hitting in on the run in and then refreshing it.

    My typical run in (when I'm not preloading RoTN (which I do on most boss fights - in which case no I don't attack until the boss is one GCD away (FW -> MB))) is Hit EI once (or twice) -> into rotation on contact.

    Preloading RoTN:

    On a number (read pretty much all if you're smart about it) you can get a double RoTN to start the fight.

    For example -> HM kain I pop RoTN when the second add is at ~50% and run away and hide at range.

    This way when he spawns you get back to back RoTNs (without effecting the enrage timer obv). (Same with crucia from second mech -> second platform and from add phase -> her landing).

    The rotaion in this case is ideally started at 14 seconds left on your RoTN CD -> which fits perfectly into one FW-> FW rotation (so that when you hit your second RoTN it's like starting my posted rotation - just 14 seconds into the fight.

    For me this makes sure all my CD's line up with flaring etc etc and is a significant dps gain if you learn to do it properly (I.e. how long do your tanks take to pull after you res etc etc - learning when to preload it).

    So if you hear me getting antsy about the tanks taking ****ing ages to pull - you should check the time left on my RoTN buff and if it's below 20 you'll know why.

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