Ahov's Guide to Senticar

[Kantazo]

Can I use this build for solo leveling?

[Eryon]

You probably could but it would take longer to kill mobs... I'd make a separate build more tuned for that purpose to be more efficient with your time.

[Jungo15]

Mmm.....Arakhurn isn't incredibly melee-unfriendly. Are you positioning your melee on the rock? If so, I don't see why that is an issue. Just use Purpose whenever you can, even if it's on the add, and get whatever mana back you can.

I assume by your comment that Arakhurn does not cleave?

I am still new to the fight so I just need to learn when the safe times are. In our attempts so far, our only melee have been the tanks so we haven't had anyone else on the rock. I tanked this week but my idea was to use purpose on the single adds when they come. The real "problem" was in the 1st phase before the single adds came and I didn't think about going onto the rock. But, even with all that, a mana pot once in a while solved my problems so I am not overly concerned about it. If we didn't drop combat between phases so I could drink, I might have had issues.

Honestly, my only problem with Senticar is that I just forget that I *COULD* have mana issues because I never do in any of my other specs. When I use purpose even once in a while, I am totally fine. There are some fights where I am trying to do it on certain phases so I just train myself to use it. Ultimately, if people did what they were supposed to do, I would never have to worry about mana because I wouldn't have to spam heals so much!

[aLittleBird]

I assume by your comment that Arakhurn does not cleave?

I am still new to the fight so I just need to learn when the safe times are. In our attempts so far, our only melee have been the tanks so we haven't had anyone else on the rock. I tanked this week but my idea was to use purpose on the single adds when they come. The real "problem" was in the 1st phase before the single adds came and I didn't think about going onto the rock. But, even with all that, a mana pot once in a while solved my problems so I am not overly concerned about it. If we didn't drop combat between phases so I could drink, I might have had issues.

Honestly, my only problem with Senticar is that I just forget that I *COULD* have mana issues because I never do in any of my other specs. When I use purpose even once in a while, I am totally fine. There are some fights where I am trying to do it on certain phases so I just train myself to use it. Ultimately, if people did what they were supposed to do, I would never have to worry about mana because I wouldn't have to spam heals so much!

Just as an FYI - we use a ranged senticar with only Aggressive Renewal in RotP and it has always been more than enough mana (with tonic's if needed) even since the nerf to the mana costs for Doctrine of Loyalty. Since the "Classic" senticar has both Aggressive Renewal and Purpose you should be just fine play out in the ranged grid for Arakhurn if needed. You can also stack on the rock, but you just have to be careful on occasion if you (or someone else in the stack) starts pulsing.

[Snichy]

Quick question: what stats are a priority for Senticar? Is it still SP and Wisdom (in that order) and what Greater Essences are recommended?

Thanks.

[aLittleBird]

Quick question: what stats are a priority for Senticar? Is it still SP and Wisdom (in that order) and what Greater Essences are recommended?

Thanks.

Yep, spell power and wisdom.

I personally either use my healing source machine (which has hailstone and deep one tear) if I know I will be focusing my heals on a specific target or my DPS (BIS Spell Power) source machine if I know I will pretty much focusing on raid heals.

[Novetan]

What would be BiS trinket for senticar, the one off hylas for more sp and therefore bigger DoLs, SHoE / HK upgrade for the proc etc.

question never was answered...any thoughts?

[Jinjah]

question never was answered...any thoughts?

I personally use Lifebound Relic because of how well DoL scales with SP. Token of Warden might work but often enough I've seen it proc on me over others, because of Salvation. Seeing as my senticar spec has the damage reduction in it I really dont need those procs wasted on myself.

I discourage the use of SHoE by anybody other than a bard.

[ergh99]

Having BoJ first is so that you will always use it when stationary, thus saving your instacasts for movement phases (it's also your best spell dps-wise). I'm not a great fan of defaulting to BoJ myself, but I definitely understand why someone would want to.

The macro you posted seems a bit odd. Might I suggest the following instead:

#show Sanction Heretic
suppress...
cast Sanction Heretic (used first for fast convictions and to apply the dot)
cast Bolt of Radiance
cast Life's Vengeance
cast Sovereignty (the reason why I put Sov last is that this rotation will make it so you have a new instant cast (BoR) available almost right after you cast this one)
cast Bolt of Judgement
cast Strike of Judgement (don't put SoJ above BoJ or you will default to it when close to mobs - SoJ is only meant as a last resort, when being on the move and happening to be in melee range)
cast Banish
cast Vex

(I use this rotation mainly because my playstyle is a bit ADD; I like to run and jump even if I don't have to.^^)

May I ask why you have Vex at the end? It seems like Banish would trigger in every occasion and Vex (which doesn't generate Conviction stacks) would never cast... or am I missing something?

[ZanielGa]

If you are turned with your back to a mob it can still cast Vex as you don't have to face the target for it. So it's just to do something as something is more than nothing.

[The Real Viz Shady]

I have a request for an Ahov's guide on trolling. Thanks in advanced!

Trolling, who ever would do that (at Ahov.. in the first minute of a video)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JRLASDT6e4

Did just fine with W/S stacking back in the day. We do run Senticars a lot now though, since Phaseshift came over to us and taught us.. but we still use W/S in quite a few fights.

[Galibier]

No, Light Makes Right is too good to drop below 21 in justicar. but my own preference build wise is 32/22/12inq for purge/AR/preseverance/SH/BoJ/AoD or AoT.

Surprised you didn't include this build Ahov, its a very viable spec and one that should be mentioned in my opinion.

I actually have 2 senticar specs. One the double b-rez and this one. I prefer this one for the flexibility it gives. You lose little or nothing in terms of AE healing (from the double b-rez version aka "standard") and on wierd things where I get stuck at range I can still regen mana.

[ergh99]

Awesome. Didn't think about facing checks. Thanks!

[Omega326]

A quick question: I've recently tried picking up Senticar for healing experts. Now, I'll be the first to admit, my gear isn't the best -- two pieces of regular mark gear and the rest are random drops from GSB, DH, and GP.

I've been using Dragon Charmer's Cudgel with the Oracle's Eye, but my heals are pretty lackluster across the board. Since I don't have a 2-hander available to me that comes anywhere near the stats of my current weapons, I haven't been able to test it out, but: Do you think my Senticar healing would improve by any significant margin by using a 2-hander as opposed to the one-hander / totem combo?

[Ahov]

A quick question: I've recently tried picking up Senticar for healing experts. Now, I'll be the first to admit, my gear isn't the best -- two pieces of regular mark gear and the rest are random drops from GSB, DH, and GP.

I've been using Dragon Charmer's Cudgel with the Oracle's Eye, but my heals are pretty lackluster across the board. Since I don't have a 2-hander available to me that comes anywhere near the stats of my current weapons, I haven't been able to test it out, but: Do you think my Senticar healing would improve by any significant margin by using a 2-hander as opposed to the one-hander / totem combo?

Since Even Justice is based from weapon damage, yes, you would notice a bit of an increase in effective reparation/mandate healing on your tank during a trash pull.

Otherwise, it's not very relevant to direct heals such as Doctrine of Loyalty or Healing Invocation.