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    Quote Originally Posted by Gantry View Post
    Thanks Makalu for looking it over and improving it. Glad you were able to get some use out of it and I am glad you got my idea. I found it wonderfully useful on 50 elites (solo w/o problem now), AOE damage in dungeons, and frustrating PVP players who think they can just burn me down. Cheers.

    -Gantry

    Even better Heal Macro:

    #show Doctrine of Bliss
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Glory of the Chosen
    cast [shift] Doctrine of Loyalty
    cast [ctrl] Doctrine of Righteousness
    cast Doctrine of Bliss
    cast Strike of Judgment
    cast Sanction Heretic
    cast Bolt of Radiance
    cast Even Justice

    It's also worth mentioning that when you fire Purpose and/or Ageless Ice, you need to take the reactives out of your rotation. You'll end up wasting *huge* amounts of time (read: free mana) if you get too many reactives going. I should probably put the "reactives" in this macro right below DoB (when you want heals, you want them NAO!!).

    I'll post some "better" macros when I get home (I hope).

    -Liang
    Last edited by Liang Nuren; 07-22-2011 at 12:16 PM.

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    This makes me feel like a rock star, because I just hit on this exact build myself. I love the Shaman, and I was looking at what would work well with it. I was like, Hm, justicar lets me heal myself when I do damage, and inquisitor lets me heal myself when I do damage. So let's just bundle it all up!

    Thanks for the guide, totally gonna brush up on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyui View Post
    You have 'strike of the maelstrom' in the single target macro, is this worth it?
    In your single target macro, put your attacks/spells in the order of greatest CD first/higher dmg ones. Mael is good to add.

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    Side note:

    make a vex macro

    #show Vex
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast glory of the chosen
    cast vex


    -This way when you are pulling, you can heal if you get a crit on you.

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    I took some info to share here from this thread: cleric leveling gudie , aoe grinding, builds, macros


    LEVEL 33
    You got couple of options now if you want to stick with the melee souls primarily. You can either do Justicar/Shaman or Justicar/Druid. I prefer Justicar/Shaman, but both have their strengths.

    Justicar/Shaman/Inquisitor(or Warden) - http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00rnd.Euz00ec.Vgd0zM

    Justicar/Shaman combo have amazing synergy because of the Shaman's off-global cooldown abilities and other passives. This build will take you to level 50, very very easily.

    First of all you need to make a macro. Let's call this one AoE Macro:

    #show Even Justice
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Jolt
    cast Fated Blow
    cast Glory Of The Chosen
    cast Even Justice

    Let's create another macro, let's call it Single Target Macro

    #show Massive Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Jolt
    cast Fated Blow
    cast Glory Of The Chosen
    cast Massive Blow
    cast Sovereignty
    cast Bolt Of Radiance
    cast Lightning Hammer
    cast Strike Of Judgment
    cast Waterjet
    cast Vex

    (feel free to remove vex or waterjet, whichever one you don't have)

    The above macro is...well awesome. It will use highest damaging abilities first, and works for both melee and ranged. Just use it, you will love it. If mob is in melee range, it will loop Strike of Judgment until other abilities before it get off cooldown, and if you are not in melee range, it will spam waterjet/vex. Works very well, hassle free.

    Rotation:
    Glacial Shield, Pull 5 mobs with your Single Target Macro, AoE Macro until they are all dead. Use single target macro to finish off the last mob or two.

    Don't forget to use Purpose and Ageless Ice (from Shaman) to replenish your mana when you need to. Ageless Ice and Purpose do the same thing. Use them liberally once you get below 50% mana. With Endless Winter as you passive mana regen, you will never run into mana issues again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liang Nuren View Post
    It's also worth mentioning that when you fire Purpose and/or Ageless Ice, you need to take the reactives out of your rotation. You'll end up wasting *huge* amounts of time (read: free mana) if you get too many reactives going. I should probably put the "reactives" in this macro right below DoB (when you want heals, you want them NAO!!).

    -Liang
    Take it one step further, build your attack macro that has no reactives into your Ageless Ice or Purpose button. Then just spam the heck out of that button until you see the AI or P buff fade. Then you don't have to worry about changing your normal attack macro with the reactives in it.

    -Deringer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deringer View Post
    Take it one step further, build your attack macro that has no reactives into your Ageless Ice or Purpose button. Then just spam the heck out of that button until you see the AI or P buff fade. Then you don't have to worry about changing your normal attack macro with the reactives in it.

    -Deringer
    I was just cut and pasting another person post. Can you show me an example?
    Where's the Auction House to buy more DPS for my cleric?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cretin View Post
    This is an update of a build I posted before, in which I'll answer some questions people had and demonstrate the versatility of the spec. It also has a catchy name now.

    Here's the build: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...Ved0t0shk.Vxkb

    Here's the old thread: http://forums.riftgame.com/showthrea...g-build-(video)

    The concept behind this build is to maximise AE damage while also pumping out a large amount of healing, and with an effectively infinite mana pool. (Hence the name; it just keeps going and going) Also, although it is most effect in ae fights, it does do decent single target damage and healing. It is desgined to be versatile - an excellent soloing spec as well as a great support dps/healer in experts and able to hold its own in pvp. It is also extremely easy to use due to the viability of macroing so if, like me, you're a terrible player, you can still do well simply by mashing buttons.

    The duracell cleric also takes great advantage of gear procs. Every hit of Vengeance of the Winter Storm counts as a separate damaging attack, and, through salvation/reparation, a separate chance to heal. This means that frozen deep one tear, crystal vines etc will proc constantly. I don't have SHoE yet, but I imagine it would be insane with this build.

    Macros

    Single Target:

    jolt
    glory of the chosen
    fated blow
    sanction heretic
    strike of the maelstrom
    lightning hammer
    massive blow
    sovereignty
    bolt of radiance
    strike of judgement [used over crushing blow for convictions]

    Multi Target

    rage of the north
    jolt
    glory of the chosen
    fated blow
    soul drain
    strike of the maelstrom
    even justice

    You can also make single target and ae life skills macros, for use when you need fast convictions, by simply removing the non-life based gcd skills from the above lists.

    Farming

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRY_fgGZtSo

    With my level of gear (t2, frozen deep one tear, crystal vine but no SHoE) you are essentially invulnerable with this spec. You are only limited by the number of mobs you can pull before they start leashing and you can kill them insanely fast. Even if you have crap gear it's still perfectly possible to kill 10-12 melee mobs at once.

    Method

    Tag as many targets as possible with vex. Vex should be macroed with glory of the chosen to give you additional healing if you get crit as you are pulling. Use battle charge if possible when you get snared. Gather the mobs up and try to have them all face you. Mash AE macro until all dead; use ST macro if there's a straggler or two. If you get really low on health use doctrine of bliss a few times. When low on mana, hit purpose/ageless ice immediately after a soul drain for quick mana recharge. If they are on CD use aggressive renewal. You should not ever have to drink with this build.

    Advantages over Inq/Just/Sent builds

    1) Zero downtime. Can keep going forever.

    2) Higher survivability from sham/just dmg reduction/parry/healing bonus means more mobs at once

    3) Only 1 casted spell means less vulnerability to pushback and silences

    4) Battle charge is great for mobility

    5) Rage of the north gives 6 sec of huge dmg/heals. Fanaticism only affects one spell.

    6) Single target damage is slightly higher

    7) Macros make things very convenient.

    The same things basically apply for rifts/invasions. In my gear, I can solo 5-7 normal invasions at once and can easily take down one elite invasion. (Two is doable but dicey) In a PuG invasion raid is also where the group healing from this build begins to shine. Often, a lot of people are taking hits, which can easily be healed with reparation for light damage, or Doctrine of Loyalty for heavier damage.

    5 Man Groups

    Video of Expert CC trash with just me and bard healing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF6UkpF7dDE
    Video of 2 FC bosses with same setup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vMaOz11yA

    The Duracell Cleric is an excellent support healer/dps. It speeds up trash clearing a LOT. I have done 200dps and 700hps on some trash fights. With bard support, I can heal all the trash in every instance bar DSM (plus a few goblin pulls in DD). With the same setup I have healed:

    - Every boss in FC (Valinara is very tricky though)
    - Every boss in LH except the last guy
    -Spider in IT
    -First 2 in KB
    -Tree dude in RotF
    -First guy in DD
    -Tree and warden in RD

    Basically this build owns on any fight where there is low tank damage or adds or high ae damage or anything needs purging. Using this with a cholro makes Scarn, Gronik and Caelia in CC and the last guy in AP trivial.

    Purge is awesome. That is all.

    However, on any encounter where there is no ae damage and no adds, or melee is hard, you're probably better off using something else because while the single target dps/healing is certainly decent there are better options.

    For single target dungeon fights you may well want to replace strike o judgement with crushing blow, because it does more damage and takes advantage of lust for blood. On ae fights with less than 5 targets you may want to use avalanche strike instead of even justice for the same reason.

    I am aware there are some wasted points in just here, but since I use it for solo farming/rifts etc I'm not going to make a whole new build just to move 3 points.

    PvP

    Unfortunately despite playing on a PvP server I am absolutely appalling at it and thus don't have a decent video. However, I will say that I have managed to survive being ganked 90% of the time. Battle Charge is a great gap-closer and Doctrine of Bliss is awesome instant healing. Rage of the North gives you decent burst damage as well. The CC changes in 1.2 ought to make this even better because the build's lack of CC/CC breakers won't matter as much.

    Raiding

    I haven't done much raiding, but from what I have done I can say that this build is extremely good at dealing with ae damage. Reparation is good constant ae healing and mandate can help a bit with the tank) 4x DoL will bring 10 players up to full health very quickly, in a similar fashion to the Senticar build. Although the Duracell is not as good at healing as the Senticar, it does much higher dps.

    Levelling

    I levelled from 48-50 in 2 hours ae grinding with this build. In my opinion it's hands down the best spec for levelling 42-50. Get 14 inq and 18 just then just fill up Shaman from there.

    Prior to about level 30 (when you get the second mana return from shaman) I'd say Inq/Just/Sent is better.

    Once you get things like 5/5 stormborn, battle charge and strike of the maelstrom, however, the Duracell Cleric pulls ahead for AE grinding.

    Level 30 build: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=10rdn.Vuz.Vxkb.Vjd0z Use avalanche strike in place of even justice. Make sure you use glacial shield every time it's up. It owns at low levels

    Level 40: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...c.Vxkb.Vjd0p0o

    Gear

    Crit is very important for this build because of the 40% crit bonus and jolt. I try to stack as much as possible within reason. This can mean cloth int gear, and crit over sp runes. Obviously you should not neglect SP either.

    However, the most important pieces of gear for this build are proc items, the best being SHoE (which I don't have). Instead I use the 60sp on heal trinket, which is ALWAYS up. Also great are the frozen deep one tear and crystal vine from the planar goods vendors. They should be reasonably easy to get now that massive invasions occur more often than 'never'.

    You should always use a 2 hander with this spec as all your melee skills are based on weapon damage. The best non-raid weapon is mace of frozen power from the final boss of AP.


    Thanks for reading and hope you guys found this useful and will have as much fun with this as I have!
    I have to post here.. I know I have been the biggest opponent of caster domination in the forums, but I will say you do excellent work. I always loved playing a healer, though unfortunately leveled a melee class first. But since I have been using my cleric as a main I have thoroughly enjoyed your thoughts.

    So Thanks Kindly..

    P.S Down with dominators.

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    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast strike of judgment

    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE  DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  8:26:07 AM  02:19     53,897  100%     402.22  173.76  0            0
    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast sanction heretic
    cast strike of judgment

    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE  DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  8:32:19 AM  02:16     60,812  100%     447.15  153.73  0            0
    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast sanction heretic
    cast massive blow
    cast strike of judgment

    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE  DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  8:38:18 AM  02:34     76,937  100%     499.59  167.92  0            0
    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast glory of the chosen
    cast fated blow
    cast sanction heretic
    cast massive blow
    cast sovereignty
    cast bolt of radiance
    cast strike of judgment

    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE  DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  8:51:47 AM  02:32     76,867  100%     505.70  190.59  0            0
    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast glory of the chosen
    cast fated blow
    cast sanction heretic
    cast lightning hammer
    cast massive blow
    cast sovereignty
    cast bolt of radiance
    cast strike of judgment

    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE  DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  8:58:32 AM  02:17     76,641  100%     559.42  170.53  0            0
    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast jolt
    cast glory of the chosen
    cast fated blow
    cast sanction heretic
    cast lightning hammer
    cast massive blow
    cast sovereignty
    cast bolt of radiance
    cast strike of judgment

    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE   DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  9:03:35 AM  02:31     109,867  100%     732.45  197.55  0            0

    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast jolt
    cast glory of the chosen
    cast fated blow
    cast sanction heretic
    cast strike of the maelstrom
    cast lightning hammer
    cast massive blow
    cast sovereignty
    cast bolt of radiance
    cast strike of judgment

    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE   DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  9:08:53 AM  02:30     117,218  100%     781.45  192.03  0            0
    Last edited by Relanex; 07-23-2011 at 08:15 AM.
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    Note on all of those I had no hits that hit an additional target. So, that is completely single target. Best i can tell Strike of the Maelstrom is a dps upgrade to have in the single target macro.
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    Breakdown of the last one looked like:

    Code:
    TYPE                           DAMAGE   ENCDPS  AVERAGE  MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST    HITS  SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                            117,218  781.45  244.20   145     44      1,508   All       480   480     100.00  27%    
    Jolt                           22,679   151.19  986.04   763     692     1,508   Air       23    23      100.00  35%    
    Lightning                      10,761   71.74   182.39   161     148     319     Air       59    59      100.00  17%    
    Lightning Hammer               9,220    61.47   461.00   574     237     660     Physical  20    20      100.00  50%    
    Strike of the Maelstrom        8,581    57.21   612.93   735     332     841     Physical  14    14      100.00  57%    
    Auto Attack                    8,182    54.55   204.55   158     90      306     Physical  40    40      100.00  45%    
    Vex                            7,920    52.80   146.67   111     100     212     Death     54    54      100.00  43%    
    Sanction                       7,655    51.03   159.48   118     104     223     Life      48    48      100.00  48%    
    Bolt of Radiance               7,244    48.29   603.67   517     455     986     Life      12    12      100.00  25%    
    Strike of Judgment             7,095    47.30   443.44   337     286     671     Life      16    16      100.00  38%    
    Sanction Heretic               7,037    46.91   703.70   812     446     935     Life      10    10      100.00  60%    
    Massive Blow                   5,866    39.11   651.78   770     355     894     Physical  9     9       100.00  56%    
    Vengeance of the Winter Storm  5,373    35.82   47.97    49      44      51      Water     112   112     100.00  0%     
    Eye of the Storm               5,124    34.16   91.50    110     49      126     Air       56    56      100.00  14%    
    Sovereignty                    4,481    29.87   640.14   524     461     1,002   Life      7     7       100.00  29%
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    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast jolt
    cast glory of the chosen
    cast fated blow
    cast sanction heretic
    cast strike of the maelstrom
    cast lightning hammer
    cast massive blow
    cast sovereignty
    cast bolt of radiance
    cast crushing blow

    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE   DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  9:43:06 AM  03:05     145,026  100%     783.92  193.02  0            0
    breakdown:
    Code:
    TYPE                           DAMAGE   ENCDPS  AVERAGE   MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST    HITS  SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                            145,026  783.92  246.22    131     44      1,508   All       589   589     100.00  25%    
    Jolt                           32,650   176.49  1,125.86  1,318   689     1,508   Air       29    29      100.00  55%    
    Lightning                      14,063   76.02   185.04    161     148     319     Air       76    76      100.00  17%    
    Lightning Hammer               11,726   63.38   451.00    574     248     660     Physical  26    26      100.00  50%    
    Bolt of Radiance               10,527   56.90   701.80    520     453     986     Life      15    15      100.00  47%    
    Auto Attack                    9,817    53.06   196.34    154     87      306     Physical  50    50      100.00  40%    
    Sanction                       9,421    50.92   162.43    198     104     223     Life      58    58      100.00  52%    
    Crushing Blow                  9,366    50.63   492.95    384     320     828     Physical  19    19      100.00  32%    
    Strike of the Maelstrom        8,494    45.91   499.65    394     340     826     Physical  17    17      100.00  29%    
    Vex                            8,193    44.29   136.55    108     100     212     Death     60    60      100.00  32%    
    Sanction Heretic               7,550    40.81   629.17    472     425     935     Life      12    12      100.00  42%    
    Vengeance of the Winter Storm  6,762    36.55   48.30     49      44      51      Water     140   140     100.00  0%     
    Massive Blow                   5,901    31.90   536.45    381     346     894     Physical  11    11      100.00  36%    
    Sovereignty                    4,977    26.90   622.13    525     505     964     Life      8     8       100.00  25%    
    Eye of the Storm               4,953    26.77   73.93     59      51      123     Air       67    67      100.00  7%     
    Aggressive Renewal             626      3.38    626.00    626     626     626     Death     1     1       100.00  100%
    Did use mana slightly faster with that macro, as noted by the accidental triple tapping of my mana macro.
    Conviction for me seemed to build just as fast.
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    Adjusted Spec for raiding and use of synergy crystal.

    Vex plus
    #show Strike of Judgment
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the North
    cast jolt
    cast glory of the chosen
    cast fated blow
    cast sanction heretic
    cast strike of the maelstrom
    cast lightning hammer
    cast massive blow
    cast sovereignty
    cast bolt of radiance
    cast crushing blow

    breakdown:
    Code:
    NAME                    STARTTIME    DURATION  DAMAGE   DAMAGE%  ENCDPS  ENCHPS  DAMAGETAKEN  DEATHS  
    Tsarin                  10:24:21 AM  03:59     190,205  100%     795.84  173.27  4            0
    breakdown:
    Code:
    TYPE                           DAMAGE   ENCDPS  AVERAGE   MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST    HITS  SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                            190,205  795.84  230.83    132     2       1,508   All       824   824     100.00  25%    
    Jolt                           35,869   150.08  1,024.83  789     688     1,508   Air       35    35      100.00  40%    
    Lightning                      17,258   72.21   176.10    161     148     319     Air       98    98      100.00  11%    
    Lightning Hammer               13,745   57.51   416.52    299     242     741     Physical  33    33      100.00  33%    
    Vex                            13,406   56.09   148.96    111     100     212     Death     90    90      100.00  42%    
    Strike of the Maelstrom        13,080   54.73   594.55    475     306     947     Physical  22    22      100.00  41%    
    Auto Attack                    12,971   54.27   196.53    149     83      291     Physical  66    66      100.00  45%    
    Crushing Blow                  12,419   51.96   564.50    437     288     931     Physical  22    22      100.00  41%    
    Sanction                       12,145   50.82   159.80    118     104     223     Life      76    76      100.00  45%    
    Bolt of Radiance               11,033   46.16   649.00    516     453     986     Life      17    17      100.00  35%    
    Massive Blow                   10,918   45.68   682.38    768     329     988     Physical  16    16      100.00  63%    
    Sanction Heretic               10,915   45.67   682.19    812     445     935     Life      16    16      100.00  50%    
    Vengeance of the Winter Storm  8,496    35.55   48.00     49      2       51      Water     177   177     100.00  0%     
    Sovereignty                    8,396    35.13   763.27    916     460     1,002   Life      11    11      100.00  55%    
    Eye of the Storm               7,444    31.15   88.62     66      45      142     Air       84    84      100.00  11%    
    Brutalize                      2,110    8.83    34.59     38      16      49      Physical  61    61      100.00  16%
    Last edited by Relanex; 07-23-2011 at 09:36 AM.
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    Default What to do at 30?

    I've seen two different take on how to play this build at 30:

    1. Focus on Inq/Just/Shaman, something like 14/21/3, and start adding points to Shaman at that point.

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00drn.Vxkb.Eu0o0fz.Mc

    2. Go heavier Shaman, more like 14/10/16,

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=10rdn.Vuz.Vxkb.Vjd0z

    Most of my AoE grinding is quest-related and not just grinding out levels, so I want to have a fairly versatile build. So which one would be better? It looks like the question is whether Hammer of Virtue and Vengeful Justice > Jolt, 4/5 Overwhelming, and Glacial Shield. On the surface, it looks like Shaman-heavy is the way to go, but I wanted to check and make sure I'm not missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cailee View Post
    I've seen two different take on how to play this build at 30:

    1. Focus on Inq/Just/Shaman, something like 14/21/3, and start adding points to Shaman at that point.

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00drn.Vxkb.Eu0o0fz.Mc

    2. Go heavier Shaman, more like 14/10/16,

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=10rdn.Vuz.Vxkb.Vjd0z

    Most of my AoE grinding is quest-related and not just grinding out levels, so I want to have a fairly versatile build. So which one would be better? It looks like the question is whether Hammer of Virtue and Vengeful Justice > Jolt, 4/5 Overwhelming, and Glacial Shield. On the surface, it looks like Shaman-heavy is the way to go, but I wanted to check and make sure I'm not missing something.
    This is how I am leveling my cleric(your frame of mind Questing vs grinding) and I am following the top build, with a small variation. I dropped 2 points from the first tier armor% increase, and put them into reducing my doctrine mana costs instead. I prefer less mana usage vs less dmg taken, when grinding/questing. I am now 38, and building my shaman tree up, and aoe questing/grinding in droughtlands at the 39-40 centaurs/kobolds/cats. Very easy 4-8 pulls, run in grab quests, ae the stragglers ... rinse repeat.

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