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    Default Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)

    Spoiler alert
    This guide explain how to solve the puzzle of Draumheim.

    The puzzle is the game of Mastermind.
    The difference here being that you have 5 slots with 7 different colors while the original Mastermind game have 4 slots with 8 different colors.

    To know where the puzzle is situated, highlight the text in this quote.
    Puzzle is at 5768, 5016.
    To know how to get to this coordinate, highlight the text in this quote.
    Swim in the water above Draumheim and fall from the water ceiling into the coordinate. The puzzle is behind the houses in one of the street.
    Now for the guide to solve this puzzle...

    First thing first, let me explain the game.
    In this rendition of Mastermind, a random combination of color is hidden in the 5 slots.
    The goal is to find those 5 colors with a limited number of attempts.

    Here is the disposition of the playfield.
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035212.jpg
    Bigger version of the picture for the text
    This picture should give you a good idea of what to do.
    The only other thing is the circle of orbs on top of the puzzle (not in the picture) that indicate you the time you have left. You have PLENTY of time to complete this puzzle, so don't stress over that.

    In order to find the solution, we can either bang your head on the wall using random combination or use something called Deductive Reasoning.
    This guide will explain you how to apply this deductive reasoning and make this puzzle a piece of cake for anyone with good memory or with a sheet of paper and a pencil.

    Now to explain how we will solve this...
    There is 5 slots that we will call #1, #2, #3, #4 and #5.
    There is 7 colors (White, Green, Yellow, Orange, Red, Purple, Blue) that we will call W, G, Y, O, R, P and B.

    The trick to winning this every time is to find the COLORS before finding the POSITIONS.

    Because the same color can be in the solution between 1 and 5 times, you need to make sure that you know if a certain color is or isn't in the solution.

    To start off, choose one color.
    Let's say we choose W (Because it's the first color when you click the orb).
    We have the combination: W - W - W - W - W
    When pulling the lever, you will know exactly how many W there is in the solution.
    Here what we get...
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035212.jpg
    In this case, we have 2 W in our solution.

    For the next step, we want to keep an amount of W on our play field equal to the number of times it is in our solution.
    In this case we have 2 W so we want to keep W in our combination twice.
    We then choose a second color to test. We will choose G (Because second color).
    We have the combination: W - W - G - G - G
    When pulling the lever, you will know exactly how many G there is in the solution and depending on what you get, you can have more information on W positioning.
    Here what we get...
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035218.jpg
    So, in this case, we know that there is 0 G in our solution because only 2 lights are lit telling us that we have 2 good colors. Those colors being the 2 W from before.
    We also can find out that there can be a W at #1 or #2 because one of them is at the GOOD position and the other is at the WRONG position.
    It is important that you analyze the results after every pull, this allow you to gather information for the positioning for when you managed to find all the colors.

    Now that we know we have 1 W at the GOOD position and 1 W at the WRONG position, we want to test a new color. The next one is Y.
    So we will use this combination: W - Y - W - Y - Y
    As you can see, we moved the W from #2 to #3. Because we are trying to get information about the positioning of the W at the same time as we find the new colors.
    When we pull this is the result we received:
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035231.jpg
    Alright, this give us more information.
    For the colors we now know we have 1 Y and 2 W because 3 lights are lit.
    We also know that the combination could be...
    W - ? - Y - W - ?
    W - ? - Y - ? - W
    Y - W - W - ? - ?
    Y - W - ? - W - ?
    Y - W - ? - ? - W
    ? - W - ? - Y - W
    ? - W - ? - W - Y
    How did I find that? From deduction. If the W on #1 is at the GOOD position, than the Y MUST be at #3 and the second W CANNOT be at #2.
    If the W at #1 is NOT at the GOOD position, than W cannot be on #1 and MUST be at #2 while Y cannot be at #3.
    Giving us 7 different results.

    Instead of pondering on where they should be, let's just keep going and go to the next color in the list, O.
    We then choose one of the combination we deduce and replace the ? by O.
    In this case, I chose W - O - Y - W - O
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035248.jpg
    After pulling the lever we find out that there is no O in our solution. Which also give us more information on the positioning of W and Y.
    We now know that W isn't at #1 or #4 and Y isn't at #3. Then we extrapolate to deduce new combinations using what we found out before and now.
    Here are the combinations we can deduce:
    Y - W - W - ? - ?
    ? - W - ? - Y - W
    Using one of those combination, we change the ? to a new color we didn't try before.
    R being the next in line.
    Pulling the lever give us...
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035310.jpg
    With this new information, we now know that the combination is
    Y - W - W - ? - ?
    We also know that ? can only be P or B as they are our last 2 colors to try.
    By changing ? to P we get:
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035316.jpg
    We learn we have 1 P in either #4 and #5.
    Which narrow our solution to either
    Y - W - W - P - B
    or
    Y - W - W - B - P
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035322.jpg
    Et voilą! We found our solution using Deductive Reasoning.

    The only thing left to do...
    Guide to Draumheim Puzzle (Mastermind)-2014-10-26_035334.jpg
    #Profit

    Good luck and have fun!

    NOTE
    Because the solution is randomized every time, you can get an easier or harder time. I highly suggest to use a sheet of paper or notepad to write down the possible combination using deduction.

    WARNING!
    This guide doesn't give you the "solution" to solving it. The solution is RANDOM. This guide show you how to apply the strategy to find your solution.
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    Correction: The original Mastermind game has 6 different colors.
    There is tons of different version of the game, but the original one is 6 colors.
    (I said 8 because the Mastermind I had when I was a kid was 8 colors with 4 slots)
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    Correction

    Quote Originally Posted by Snap View Post
    W - ? - Y - W - ?
    W - ? - Y - ? - W
    Y - W - W - ? - ?
    Y - W - ? - W - ?
    Y - W - ? - ? - W
    ? - W - ? - Y - W
    ? - W - ? - W - Y
    The combinations after we found that there is only 1 yellow should be those 5:
    W - ? - Y - W - ?
    W - ? - Y - ? - W
    Y - W - W - ? - ?
    ? - W - ? - Y - W
    ? - W - ? - W - Y
    Because it isn't possible to have Y - W - ? - W - ? or Y - W - ? - ? - W
    since we need at least a W at #3 or an Y at #4 or #5
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    i like how they totally forgot about color blinded people in this expansion.. oh well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darwen View Post
    i like how they totally forgot about color blinded people in this expansion.. oh well..
    It's unfortunate, but it's hard for them to make the game very friendly to colorblind people.
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    People need to do this multiple times. While going for the 5 moves or less achieves, I've gotten 3 new minions not listed in Riftgrate's guide.

    So far, Blue Speludelver Earth/Artifact, Blue Ornipteryx Wind/Artifact, and Green Tavanion Hunt/Artifact in 4 tries total.

    EDIT: Just got Mark (Green/Dim/Art) and Uriel Chuluun (Green/Art/Hunt)
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    Quote Originally Posted by evantide View Post
    People need to do this multiple times. While going for the 5 moves or less achieves, I've gotten 3 new minions not listed in Riftgrate's guide.

    So far, Blue Speludelver Earth/Artifact, Blue Ornipteryx Wind/Artifact, and Green Tavanion Hunt/Artifact in 4 tries total.
    I have received about 7 or 8 different minions out of puzzles so far.

    The one you named.

    Green Mark
    Green General Batua
    Green Uriel (Forgot the last name, it's the minion card of a defiant NPC)

    And I believe I received 1 or 2 Blue that I forgot the name of and perhaps also another Green, I lost the count after getting my 15th Speludelver.

    And yes, you either have to do it multiple time and pray for lady luck if you want the achievement. Or you can also try your luck by trying with multiple colors at the same time rather than 1 at a time.
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    Just got 2 more new ones. Shuffles (Blue/Earth/Arti) and Ahgnox (Blue/Death/Arti)
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    The puzzle also drops artifacts. I received one in addition to a bunch of minion cards. I received a server first for one of the cards, but don't remember which card that was. Think I received at least 6 unique cards before I got bored from receiving cards I already had. Not mentioned is the first item you get is a dimension item.

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    Default draumheim puzzle

    anyone got the coords for this puzzle?

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    Can you please add to your guide the original way to get to the puzzle is by a lever hidden inside the water. Inside the water next to the dream machine is a lever that teleports you inside and out of the puzzle area. It is just easier to get to the puzzle from above.

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    There is a total of 8 minions cards you can get from the puzzles. I havn't found any other after about 150 completions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turntablist
    Can you please add to your guide the original way to get to the puzzle is by a lever hidden inside the water. Inside the water next to the dream machine is a lever that teleports you inside and out of the puzzle area. It is just easier to get to the puzzle from above.
    I can't edit my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salekka View Post
    anyone got the coords for this puzzle?
    The coordinate are on the guide at the top of it in the first quote. Highlight the text to see it.
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    You can also get to the location by going north and jumping from a hill onto the roof of the city and traveling along the outer roof till you get there.

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    Default More than one minion?

    Quote Originally Posted by evantide View Post
    People need to do this multiple times. While going for the 5 moves or less achieves, I've gotten 3 new minions not listed in Riftgrate's guide.

    So far, Blue Speludelver Earth/Artifact, Blue Ornipteryx Wind/Artifact, and Green Tavanion Hunt/Artifact in 4 tries total.

    EDIT: Just got Mark (Green/Dim/Art) and Uriel Chuluun (Green/Art/Hunt)

    So there is more than one minion coming from that puzzle itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahann View Post
    So there is more than one minion coming from that puzzle itself?
    No, every puzzles can give any of the 8 minions
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