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    Default PvP Bolstering

    I'm very tired of seeing lv 66 - 68 ppl in green gear (and not even all piece of equipment) doing WAY MORE damage with same skills, then a full lv 70 PvP geared.

    Many, ON PURPOSE, stay at lv 68 to have 3 legendaries and INCREASED DAMAGE.

    Is not first time it has been reported, BUT PLEASE provide a fix.
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    I think bolstering is generally good for WFs. I agree sub70 get somewhat effective with about 3 legendaries. It brings in people.
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    Bolstered 65-69 players have ~50k less hp and less resists. They're squishy. And the myth that they do more dps than a completely bis pvp geared lvl 70 isn't true at all. They do more dps than a fresh 70 with no gear, and a medium geared 70, but not even close to max geared 70.

    Basically just ignores having to gear up for a bit when you're not 70, that way you can play your alts in pvp without getting destroyed by gear and farm favor for when you do hit 70.
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    Men they do MORE damage then a full lv 70 PvP geared. (all weapons, all armor pieces , all runes , also focus and jewerly and fragments).

    Using same soul / offsoul, legendaries (ofc 3 instead of 5) and masteries.

    Simply using same ability, let's say empowered shot for example, do MORE DMG, and if it crits EVEN MORE.

    There are also videos and other threads about critical power bolstered.
    Feel free to search em into forum.

    We are sure of what are we talking about, since we tested it. (in wfs, not in duels).

    Sidenote: Special thanks to our friend "Walking Dummy" that let us test it, during latenight wfs.
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    Yes and I've tested it too. Planar fragments make up ~50% of the gear curve at 70. If your planar fragments aren't bis. Then you are not bis. Thus you are medium geared. Hence you do less damage.

    My 70 cleric is more effective than my alt cleric at 69. Due to gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xclvsive View Post
    Yes and I've tested it too. Planar fragments make up ~50% of the gear curve at 70. If your planar fragments aren't bis. Then you are not bis. Thus you are medium geared. Hence you do less damage.

    My 70 cleric is more effective than my alt cleric at 69. Due to gear.

    Fragment on lv 70 full geared are nearly all BiS (just missing to finally lv up 3 of them from 12 to 15).

    Personal note: since i ve 3 planar fragment set (1 for tank, 1 for full dex/ap, 1 for full CP) i even tried to switch em, resulting in more or less the same stats for dex/ap set and critical set.

    And i specifically wrote lv 66 - 68.

    At 69 u dont receive special critical power bolster. (or way less).

    Again, feel free to search also other threads into this forum and read em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heri View Post
    Fragment on lv 70 full geared are nearly all BiS (just missing to finally lv up 3 of them from 12 to 15).

    And i specifically wrote lv 66 - 68.

    At 69 u dont receive special critical power bolster. (or way less).
    Yes you do, the cp % at 68 is 23.50% , at 69 its 22.60%. Losing 0.90% worth of cp for an extra legendary point is worth it.

    And those other threads are wrong and spew misinformation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xclvsive View Post
    Yes you do, the cp % at 68 is 23.50% , at 69 its 22.60%. Losing 0.90% worth of cp for an extra legendary point is worth it.

    And those other threads are wrong and spew misinformation.
    And i guess u're the only right, and all the other are wrong.
    And all the videos are edited.
    And we had read wrong numbers while testing.

    Thx for enlight us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heri View Post
    And i guess u're the only right, and all the other are wrong.
    And all the videos are edited.
    And we had read wrong numbers while testing.

    Thx for enlight us all.
    Link the videos.
    Link the test results.

    Then i will enlighten you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xclvsive View Post
    Link the videos.
    Link the test results.

    Then i will enlighten you.
    Last time ill reply to u.

    Feel free to provide the numbers with screenshots if u think u're right.

    Since also many many other player report same thing that's totally opposite to yours, or u are just voluntary misleading community, or simply trolling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xclvsive View Post

    And those other threads are wrong and spew misinformation.
    That's sum all.
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    Okay here we go

    lvl 70 cleric

    lvl 68 bolstered cleric

    half of my fragments are bolstered, and essences aren't pvp, so not even bis gear and the stats are better (look at hp and resists specifically)

    -same spec
    -same buffs
    -same consumes

    Dont tell me that lower stats is going to do more damage
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    Exactly.

    Look differences in critical power, for example.
    We are talking only about dmg output, not of resist nor hp poll, if it is not clear for u.
    Plus, ur screenshots provided, show that u r also not even nearly bis equipped for pvp. (then we cannot even understand how u can test that and say all u have wrote since now).

    The whole point of situation, to specifically let u understand, is: why we should use all our effort in pvp having max gear and stuff, when a bolstered inferior level player do the same damage (even better)?

    And, if u really test em both on same target, any ability u use deal more dmg ( even if in ur case spell power is less then the lv 70 ) and if crit even more with bolstered one.

    Find a friend of opposite team and go test it.
    Last edited by Heri; 03-05-2017 at 07:48 AM.

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    A lower level player will get more %crit dmg and %crit chance for the same amount of CP and Crit points compared to 70 lvl player.
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    Default I'll define "what is bis gears for pvp" for you all

    PVP BIs means......

    Head : Slayers gear + bis dream orb
    cape : COA cape + rune + dream orb
    shoulder : COA armor + rune + dream orb
    Chest : 988 main stat (upgrade from 914 gear in wf box)
    hand : slayers
    wrist : slayers + dream orb
    leg : 988 main stat (upgrade from 914 in wf box) + rune
    foot : slayers
    earrings :
    rogue,war,prim - SPE earrins
    mage, cleric - 621 stats from wf box
    neck : Nighttidemare neck + rune + dream orb. (Don't need to be COA thing. don't ask why to me. it is)
    trinkets : I guess a thing from wf box. but I'm using warmonger's
    rings : 621 stats from wf box
    seal : 1000p thing in store
    weapons : slayers + rune
    focus : expensive thing + all pvp 495 main stat essences with CP (I don't know which is better AP or CP atm) or 505/360 green gears from Major rifts. almost same as I know.



    If you got all of these, you made 30~40% of bis for pvp. ROFL

    The way to real bis is getting nice "war" fragments from boxes and upgrading it to max level.

    As I know, there isn't single one who is even close to bis pvp gears because of dam fragments.


    This is not well known thing, but if you tested it, you could feel it easily.

    Geared 70 >>> bolstered low level for overall thing and even for damage only.


    But there is the only exception - Rogue MM. I don't understand but I've seen only a rogue doing "55k Empowered shot". It was only him when he was 69.



    For the conclusion, X is right. You all are not bis for pvp.
    Last edited by MusclPig; 03-05-2017 at 09:37 AM.
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    But yes. you may feel like it because 80% ppl in wf even don't have equipment things (don't need to mention fragments at all).

    So low level seems way stronger than level 70 guys.


    Anyway, if you get those gears + some fragments, low level cannot do dmg exceeding geared level 70.
    Last edited by MusclPig; 03-05-2017 at 09:38 AM.
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