Concerning Bolstered Gear vs. Ephemeral or Higher Gear

[Vladd]

I've been looking into this for the past week and think I found what was causing the problem today. However, this will need to be vetted on PTS first before I'll push it live.

EDIT:

PTS just got updated with a revised version of bolstering. Instead of trying to match bolstered gear and Maruader+ gear with every other piece of gear in the game, I've just made bolstered gear match the stat allocations that Marauder+ has.

Additionally with this change, each slot in bolstered now has a set tertiary stat that it boosts instead of splitting between all 3 that a calling would want. The breakdown is as follows:

AP/SP: Legs, Neck, Rings, 1h Weapon, 2h Weapon, Off-Hand, Shield
SC/PC: Cape, Chest, Boots, Gloves, Helmet
CP: Earrings, Essences

The difference going from bolstered to full set of Marauder's (in the main stat heavy version) is:

Main: +655
Secondary: +117
Endurance: -163
AP/SP: +75
SC/PC: +176
CP: +108

Provided that you keep the same tertiary stat distribution as the bolster gear.

Jump on PTS and try it out!

I look forward to your feedback on this and please remember to keep the conversation on topic. =)

[ecru]

can you look at powerstones not working on bolstered weapons too?

[littlepoit]

and in general could you just retest everything pvp related and make sure it works as intended ?

[Otts]

Thanks, better late than never.

[Bloodbourne]

can you look at powerstones not working on bolstered weapons too?

That's intended.

[ecru]

That's intended.

[citation needed]

[Bloodbourne]

[citation needed]

Powerstone affects the weapon you have equipped. Not the weapon you don't have equipped. Same reason runes don't apply on Bolstered gear. Same reason Insoles, and other consumables don't work on bolstered gear... It's on an item you aren't using.

Welcome to rift? I could've sworn you'd been around longer than a day.

[Kimatsu]

I've been looking into this for the past week and think I found what was causing the problem today. However, this will need to be vetted on PTS first before I'll push it live.

I'll update this post when PTS has been updated with the fix so you guys can go bash on it.

Much appreciated. I can finally go back to enjoying my playtime in PVP, rather than spend that time here on the forums trying to convince those who were in denial.

[Bloodbourne]

Much appreciated. I can finally go back to enjoying my playtime in PVP, rather than spend that time here on the forums trying to convince those who were in denial.

No one was in denial but you, what he found won't change much of anything. And it had nothing to do with your tinfoil hat threads, besides people debunking your "theories".

[Kimatsu]

No one was in denial but you, what he found won't change much of anything. And it had nothing to do with your tinfoil hat threads, besides people debunking your "theories".

Raider mad cuz PVP just got better.

[Bloodbourne]

Raider mad cuz PVP just got better.

PvPer telling you you're wrong. Nothing changes except a slight reduction to bolstered gear. If anything it makes PvP worse, because people who rely on bolstering will take a slight hit to DPS. They're not buffing Dreambreaker, but reducing the mainstat of bolstered, by what we found last night.

Also, by all testing, in no case was bolstered gear better than MAINSTAT heavy AP/CP Ephemeral/Dreambreaker gear. Some stats go down, but not by enough to negate the gains. Just because your CP drops by 80, doesn't mean the 130AP boost you get is a downgrade -.-

So put your tinfoil hat back on, because you're going to be back cluttering up the forums when/if this fix goes live.

[ecru]

Powerstone affects the weapon you have equipped. Not the weapon you don't have equipped. Same reason runes don't apply on Bolstered gear. Same reason Insoles, and other consumables don't work on bolstered gear... It's on an item you aren't using.

Welcome to rift? I could've sworn you'd been around longer than a day.

you seem pretty sure of yourself.

http://imgur.com/a/UM0Lr
http://imgur.com/a/xO5od

i could've sworn you'd been around longer than a day, but we were told our enchants and consumables would work on our gear in pvp in 3.0 even when bolstered, and consumables still aren't working.

[Bloodbourne]

you seem pretty sure of yourself.

http://imgur.com/a/UM0Lr
http://imgur.com/a/xO5od

i could've sworn you'd been around longer than a day, but we were told our enchants and consumables would work on our gear in pvp in 3.0 even when bolstered, and consumables still aren't working.

Neither of those show.... anything even remotely relevant.

Since bolstering has been put in game, no consumables have worked on bolstered gear. This includes down bolstered gear. Put a Mrym weapon on and toss up vampiric and tell me how much it heals for. Been that way for as long as Bolstering has been about. Same with Runes/orbs/etc. I spent a great deal of time doing 50-59 PvP in SL, where everything is bolstered (except trinket/Crystal/Focus). I can tell you that on my little noob warrior on EU, insoles did nothing on my bolstered gear.

As you can clearly see based on these relevant screenshots, you're wrong.
http://imgur.com/a/2DcmO

[ecru]

Neither of those show.... anything even remotely relevant.

i'm pretty sure they show runes and orbs working on bolstered gear, which according to you..

Same reason runes don't apply on Bolstered gear.

lol

Since bolstering has been put in game, no consumables have worked on bolstered gear. This includes down bolstered gear. Put a Mrym weapon on and toss up vampiric and tell me how much it heals for. Been that way for as long as Bolstering has been about. Same with Runes/orbs/etc. I spent a great deal of time doing 50-59 PvP in SL, where everything is bolstered (except trinket/Crystal/Focus). I can tell you that on my little noob warrior on EU, insoles did nothing on my bolstered gear.

yes, and we were promised that it would change. only half of those changes seem to have made it through.

[Bloodbourne]

i'm pretty sure they show runes and orbs working on bolstered gear, which according to you..



lol



yes, and we were promised that it would change. only half of those changes seem to have made it through.

You're in Steppes.... My relic procs in steppes. There's more wrong there than you're seeing...