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    Quote Originally Posted by Seatin View Post
    Bro I am R79 and am playing 100x better.

    I am PVP god.
    For sure you're one of those Mages who do the difference in WF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seatin View Post
    Bro I am R79 and am playing 100x better.

    I am PVP god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morwath View Post
    For sure you're one of those Mages who do the difference in WF.
    I made this image to illustrate what it's like when I play Warfronts:

    http://imgur.com/plSufT5

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    If the game feels pay-to-win.

    and if it looks pay-to-win.

    It's probably pay-to-win.

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    Hell, like I said, I haven't paid a dime in nearly a year...my K/D ratio still tends towards the + side of kills, no idea, I guess since money+/- = time spent, it could be considered as such....most times where it concerns money, it is more out of convenience then the gear tier one recieves, and you can't buy Myrmidons upgrades that I know of outside whatever crates gets ya.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seatin View Post
    I made this image to illustrate what it's like when I play Warfronts:

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    Either my P2W definition is wrong or other people have it wrong. I get it, we all have opinions, but considering I am always right, you can treat my opinion as fact.

    Rift is not P2W.
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    Defining P2W is simple. The game is pay-to-win when spending money increases character performance.

    On the other hand, "free-to-wait" is very ambiguous because you can wait a week, a month, or maybe a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothi View Post
    Defining P2W is simple. The game is pay-to-win when spending money increases character performance.

    On the other hand, "free-to-wait" is very ambiguous because you can wait a week, a month, or maybe a year.
    nope. pay 2 win is when the ONLY way to increase performance past a certain point is with cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprawlnBrawl View Post
    nope. pay 2 win is when the ONLY way to increase performance past a certain point is with cash
    Btw, i actually seen f2p game where free players needed about 10 years of farm to catch up with payers. By your classification it's not p2w at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redna View Post
    Btw, i actually seen f2p game where free players needed about 10 years of farm to catch up with payers. By your classification it's not p2w at all.
    I think that was his point.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    If the game feels pay-to-win.

    and if it looks pay-to-win.

    It's probably pay-to-win.
    How else would guys like me compete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrkC View Post
    How else would guys like me compete?
    haha.

    I don't personally care about pay to win stuff in a game, but a lot of people reasonably do and the half empty wf's and longer que times now are probably related to a move to p2w rng gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baramos View Post
    Those broad shoulders could carry even the worst baddies!
    i'd rather get carried than be a jackas s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redna View Post
    Btw, i actually seen f2p game where free players needed about 10 years of farm to catch up with payers. By your classification it's not p2w at all.
    you can't pay to rank yourself up to wear the gear, you still have to rank up. you are saving yourself maybe 1-2 months max, and even then require luck to actually obtain BIS gear from money.

    p2w would be if i drop $200.00 im r90 with BIS gear and then they keep adding new tiers every 6months that require an additional $200.00 and no alternative to obtain the gear in that time frame other than money.
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