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    Quote Originally Posted by dday View Post
    That sounds fun in a wf solo que for sure. you make him mostly useless while you in turn are useless outside of making him useless. pretty sweet play style

    bm is good in small scale pvp and it ends there
    Explain how are you useless? You give your whole raid:

    1. +70 to all offensive stats (dex,str,wis,int)
    2. +2k armor and 65 resistance iirc
    3. +5% dmg
    4. +5% crit chance
    5. reduce cast time and auto-attack delay by 7% (some ****y healing over time which is hardly worth to mention)
    6. 3 powerful commands which last 30s each with 5min debuff or until you die.
    7. sleep which you can easily use in between keeping the sin perma purged.
    8. enrage every 60s which stack with flaring, orchestra and WG or PC.
    9. Spotter's Call which is Bard equivalent of Coda of Jeopardy, except it always last 30s and doesnt require any combo points.
    10. You can use Guard on Target's Target's (which is the one Sin is hiting)
    11. +15% movement speed for whole raid
    12. pulling people of the cliff and slowing them within 1 gcd of tab targeting
    13. +5% dmg reduction

    Basically, you are boosting whole raid dps, mobility and survivality while purged Sin does what 1k dps without poisons, stuns someone or confuse every once in a while? The difference between those 2 is huge.

    Here's an example of how much BM can do in random Wafront without even using all cds. BM, Bard, Liberator, some cleric and mage heal in one team vs bard, 2 physicians , liberator and mage healer. All those pyros and rogues couldnt kill a damn, the only thing that died was the pet and only because it had "Tank" in it's name ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Vz1E1fLU8
    Last edited by Otts; 08-11-2014 at 04:48 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by elfaraon View Post
    you really need to play more pyro . I bet you are a warrior or rogue so your opinion is not accurate at all. By the way pyro is not even close to have the highest burst in the game tell that to a sin or warlord

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otts View Post
    Explain how are you useless? You give your whole raid:

    1. +70 to all offensive stats (dex,str,wis,int)
    2. +2k armor and 65 resistance iirc
    3. +5% dmg
    4. +5% crit chance
    5. reduce cast time and auto-attack delay by 7% (some ****y healing over time which is hardly worth to mention)
    6. 3 powerful commands which last 30s each with 5min debuff or until you die.
    7. sleep which you can easily use in between keeping the sin perma purged.
    8. enrage every 60s which stack with flaring, orchestra and WG or PC.
    9. Spotter's Call which is Bard equivalent of Coda of Jeopardy, except it always last 30s and doesnt require any combo points.
    10. You can use Guard on Target's Target's (which is the one Sin is hiting)
    11. +15% movement speed for whole raid
    12. pulling people of the cliff and slowing them within 1 gcd of tab targeting
    13. +5% dmg reduction

    Basically, you are boosting whole raid dps, mobility and survivality while purged Sin does what 1k dps without poisons, stuns someone or confuse every once in a while? The difference between those 2 is huge.

    Here's an example of how much BM can do in random Wafront without even using all cds. BM, Bard, Liberator, some cleric and mage heal in one team vs bard, 2 physicians , liberator and mage healer. All those pyros and rogues couldnt kill a damn, the only thing that died was the pet and only because it had "Tank" in it's name ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Vz1E1fLU8
    haha you thought you had 0 deaths because of BM. jesus man idk even know how to respond to this. all i saw was you standing still most of the time pulling players that moved to safety almost instantly and spam purging bads who probably dont even know their buffs are gone. your cds last 30secs and are all but useless in pvp considering damage is not timed or predictable like in pve where bm might serve a purpose plus lol 5 min debuff.

    yea you have a few buffs that help the raid but you're more valuable as a healer or dps assisting better geared players. there are support specs in pvp that help your team like pyrochon (prob doesnt exist anymore) and dom but BM is not one of them. your 200dps is not helping kill healers even with spam purges. pretty simple to understand. 1 dps and a bm on a healer dont kill them, 2 dps do.

    bm is OP as hell in 3v3 and 5v5 because you can sleep 1 target and spam purge the other, sleep is useless in a wf with all the dots and aoe that gets thrown around and spam purge does very little because of how many players their are and lack of ff. if you had an organized 10 v 10 then yes bm might be a spec worth taking to protect healers and purge dps rogues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahliablood View Post
    I thought you were trying to be gangster in your thread title..
    That would be G poison.
    Last edited by Violacea; 08-11-2014 at 11:34 PM.
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    What is more... if you go BM as Myrm in PUG, where youre probably the only Myrm in team, you're doing it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morwath View Post
    Remove the passive drain finaly.
    Translation: "I can't be bothered to figure out and then implement the counter to this ability so I expect Trion to remove it because this is disrupting MY good times."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylwrk View Post
    Translation: "I can't be bothered to figure out and then implement the counter to this ability so I expect Trion to remove it because this is disrupting MY good times."
    There is no counter as a warrior dps you simply get passively drained which is'a joke. I'm fine with a drain but tie it to a cd like nb. Anything passive is dumb. Same thing with spammable purges which kills specs in small scale pvp

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday View Post
    There is no counter as a warrior dps you simply get passively drained which is'a joke. I'm fine with a drain but tie it to a cd like nb. Anything passive is dumb. Same thing with spammable purges which kills specs in small scale pvp
    Its not about draining Warriors. Its about obliterating blue bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morwath View Post
    Its not about draining Warriors. Its about obliterating blue bars.
    It's everybody imo. Again I'm fine with the net result but not passively

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    Also going back to purges: buffs and debuffs need to be rebalanced in PvP. I mean, those 'permanent' (1h/toggle) shouldn't be purgable, however we should get more purges to deal with CDs and other triggers, and they all should be purgable including Battlefield Expierance, Alacrity so combat awarness would be more important than spamming 3-4 buttons on most specs and blowing CDs whenever possible. Same as all CCs and bleeds should be curable/dispelable.

    TL;dL - no happy spammin'
    Last edited by Morwath; 08-12-2014 at 07:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday View Post
    There is no counter as a warrior dps you simply get passively drained which is'a joke. I'm fine with a drain but tie it to a cd like nb. Anything passive is dumb. Same thing with spammable purges which kills specs in small scale pvp

    So, did you just say you're fine with removing all warrior passives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday View Post
    ... your 200dps is not helping kill healers even with spam purges...
    That right there is the moment you lost your rebuttal.

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    Wait... I finally get it.

    This is a troll thread and most of the reply-ers are trolling as well.

    Get rid of passives.
    Eliminate purge.
    Support is worthless.


    Good stuff maynard... good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylwrk View Post
    Wait... I finally get it.

    This is a troll thread and most of the reply-ers are trolling as well.

    Get rid of passives.
    Eliminate purge.
    Support is worthless.


    Good stuff maynard... good stuff.
    Nope, support isn't worthless.
    However whenever I think about real support in PvP, its Dom. Cleary one is inferior compared to another.

    P.S.
    You'e probably a Rogue and thats explains why you're so clueless.
    Last edited by Morwath; 08-12-2014 at 08:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylwrk View Post
    So, did you just say you're fine with removing all warrior passives?
    Name me one warrior passive outside of the purge which I want removed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday View Post
    Name me one warrior passive outside of the purge which I want removed?
    The correct response to the question is yes. Remove all passives from all classes.

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