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    Default Thats it , Give me my Credit And Take Your Phydican back !!!

    PHYSICIAN
    * Alternative Treatment: Reduces healing and absorbs while active by 70% in PVP. PVE is unchanged.
    * Active Treatment: Healing effectiveness is reduced by 10% in PVP.




    Are guys seroius ?
    Is the this for Real ?

    This is sad in all honest !!

    i knew it from the first nerf
    http://forums.riftgame.com/game-disc...ml#post4810450

    This only proves one thing : that Devs never listen to reasonable proves that Physican is killable with littile effort and brain , because the majority are baddies who dont wanna learn specs .

    This is exactly what people warned us about free to play games .......
    I keel Em Too Fast !

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    Since im on EU i cant test it yet, but its not really hitting 61 builds, and hands down the 44 Hybrid is/was a bid to strong in pvp.

    Its not all about 1vs1 or if a healer dies if he gets fokused, the output of of the hybrid was too much with nearby nothing you have to do, just spam 1 button with one buff on and you good.

    BUT

    a 20% and 10% nerf on two skills is way too much for a nerf with some common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsuu View Post
    * Active Treatment: Healing effectiveness is reduced by 10% in PVP.


    Let's take an ability that can't keep people alive for the life of it and nerf it!
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    7-7.5k+ sustained HPS with phys tact had no place in pvp, even as aoe.
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    If you play physician and can't see that it is op, then you need to l2p.
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    Heal-fest games are fun. Buff all healers except for chloro because it is much stronk. Stronk liek dorf.

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    Welcome back defilers and sents, phys were just keeping your seats warm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honeymoon View Post
    If you play physician and can't see that it is op, then you need to l2p.
    Give me one other DPS that knows what it is doing and I'll show you a dead Physician np. See, I can play Physician and DPS. You can definitely murder them. But welcome to the game where people queue for WF's in garbage defensive specs. It's no wonder nothing dies. Healing specs are usually more pure in nature.

    Either way, it is hardly much of a nerf. Won't really change much how they play. Just a dumb ability to cherry pick to nerf. They are like nerfing the ability that didn't even do that much for them anyway in the first place. Which is why it shouldn't be nerfed.
    Last edited by Violacea; 07-23-2014 at 01:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsuu View Post
    This only proves one thing : that Devs never listen to reasonable proves that Physican is killable with littile effort and brain , because the majority are baddies who dont wanna learn specs .
    They haven't been issue in 3v3, they were issue in 10v10 and 15v15.
    Since crosshealing is so strong in such scenarios, and AT was making it even bigger issue.

    Also Phys was meant to be ST healer. You can abuse his superiority as AoE healer in PvE, but he never should outshine real AoE healing souls in AoE healing PvP, because that makes them completly not viable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violacea View Post
    Give me one other DPS that knows what it is doing and I'll show you a dead Physician np.
    Can I crossheal him with my Defiler while you try to burn him down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morwath View Post
    They haven't been issue in 3v3, they were issue in 10v10 and 15v15.
    Since crosshealing is so strong in such scenarios, and AT was making it even bigger issue.

    Also Phys was meant to be ST healer. You can abuse his superiority as AoE healer in PvE, but he never shouldn't ever outshine real AoE healing souls in AoE healing PvP, because that makes they completly not viable.



    Can I crossheal him with my Defiler while you try to burn him down?
    Sure, but in that case I would have my sidekick help me murder the defiler first, with the physician cross healing him.
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    alternative treatment needed a nerf for sure. I would argue it needed more energy cost though. not specifically a blanket nerf.

    active treatment? I'm still trying to figure that one out.


    Ill save my true opinion for when it goes live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocketzoar View Post
    alternative treatment needed a nerf for sure. I would argue it needed more energy cost though. not specifically a blanket nerf.

    active treatment? I'm still trying to figure that one out.


    Ill save my true opinion for when it goes live.
    Maybe rogues will make more attempts to use the cast time ability and the shield more often. It's funny, the nerf by proxy might encourage people to play Physician better. My point is that is it is fine as is. It's already a healer with pretty much no saves. I am pretty sure the 15s o-gcd instant CD defiler get is better than our 1m emergency response.

    lol, 9k heal. EMERGENCY. Oh wait, I'll use my other. Lol debilitated for 5s when I needed massive healing.
    Last edited by Violacea; 07-23-2014 at 01:55 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violacea View Post
    Maybe rogues will make more attempts to use the cast time ability and the shield more often. It's funny, the nerf by proxy might encourage people to play Physician better. My point is that is it is fine as is. It's already a healer with pretty much no saves. I am pretty sure the 15s o-gcd instant CD defiler get is better than our 1m emergency response.

    lol, 9k heal. EMERGENCY. Oh wait, I'll use my other. Lol debilitated for 5s when I needed massive healing.
    Ghastly Response is good only when you want trigger Foul Growth on the same GCD, because on it's own its healing for less than 0 pt Healing Breath.

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    now you guys can be as terrible at AE healing as liberators are at ST
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morwath View Post
    Ghastly Response is good only when you want trigger Foul Growth on the same GCD, because on it's own its healing for less than 0 pt Healing Breath.
    Triggering foul growth was implied. My point was you can basically execute it in a o-gcd'ish way.
    Last edited by Violacea; 07-23-2014 at 02:36 AM.
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