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    Quote Originally Posted by deathstormer View Post
    mage is fine. I play warrior more because i prefer melee but mage isn't that bad. Just play a dom and don't look at the scoreboard. Look at all the pretty purple. yellow, red, blue rainbows of numbers from drains =) then look at the pretty little warrior squirrels.
    So dom, is the decent specc a mage will have for PvP? Awesome....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morwath View Post
    If Flicker & tons of CCs doesn't help you with 'running away', then indeed you have to roll op rogue.
    Yeah, my flicker ( or double flicker with heatwave ) totally counters warrs or rogues threefold capclosers. Get real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ianto Jones View Post
    Warlock is the Mage equivalent of Skilling Field spam.
    Isn't wl highest pve dps? Usually that means there is some pvp potential. I get there it's a lot of fluff aoe though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morwath View Post
    If Flicker & tons of CCs doesn't help you with 'running away', then indeed you have to roll op rogue.
    Then what? Between gap closers, pulls, interrupt (combined with long cast times), what will pyro be able to do....hide? guess, if you are matched against a bad PuG you might get to be effective...then again trion lets PM farm PuGs, so doubtful. Think this another attempt by trion, to make ppl do PMs, that is the only way it might be effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakedog View Post
    Yeah, my flicker ( or double flicker with heatwave ) totally counters warrs or rogues threefold capclosers. Get real.
    How gapclosers help warrior if you relocate yourself behind your own team?
    Yeah, he can try to chase you down, but then you will CC him exposed to your entire team...

    Really, if you got issues with positioning yourself, then no doubt, mages suck for you.
    Last edited by Morwath; 07-08-2014 at 03:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords0fpain View Post
    So dom, is the decent specc a mage will have for PvP? Awesome....
    Dom isn't decent..... it's OP. Chloro, pyro and pyrochon are decent. Even lock can do ok against dumb teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathstormer View Post
    Dom isn't decent..... it's OP. Chloro, pyro and pyrochon are decent. Even lock can do ok against dumb teams.
    Just send in a sin, problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakedog View Post
    Lets break up your screenie:
    25 KBs
    1 death
    1,953,645 damage done
    673,721 damage taken
    534,302 healing taken

    I have a screenie ( P75ish rogue ) here with same killing blows:
    25 KBs
    0 deaths
    1,223,755 damage done
    211,982 damage taken
    130,734 healing taken

    Now lets talk about ratios.

    I did 37,36% less damage
    I received 68,54% less damage
    I received 75,53% less heals

    Mage efficiency destroyed. Without those heals you wouldnt have this screenshot. Yes, mage is that bad.
    yes mages arent efficient and require most heals. 5 OP warriors with infinite gap closers and pulls yet he only died twice and only required 130k healing

    http://i.imgur.com/GfOffie.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords0fpain View Post
    Just send in a sin, problem solved.
    in a team game like this a solo sin won't kill a Dom. Doms are the best team player you have so smart healers will keep them up. But yeah 1 on 1 Doms are turrible. Yes Cleveland reference =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by SprawlnBrawl View Post
    yes mages arent efficient and require most heals. 5 OP warriors with infinite gap closers and pulls yet he only died twice and only required 130k healing

    http://i.imgur.com/GfOffie.jpg
    Mired time to mix in paragon brah

    pyro is beast too anyone that says anything different is bad. where pyro sucks is you cant play it with your face and be good. you have to be always keeping your position and using cc, and there are very few macros. not that its hard but compared to some specs it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday View Post
    Isn't wl highest pve dps? Usually that means there is some pvp potential. I get there it's a lot of fluff aoe though
    It's a dot spec, and all but one healing soul has an aoe cleanse.

    Plus, that's alot of ramp up time applying dots, for their pitiful damage per tick. Combined, they do add up though.

    Compare them to scourge, which is the equivalent of about 3 warlock dots, in one application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldern View Post
    It's a dot spec, and all but one healing soul has an aoe cleanse.

    Plus, that's alot of ramp up time applying dots, for their pitiful damage per tick. Combined, they do add up though.

    Compare them to scourge, which is the equivalent of about 3 warlock dots, in one application.
    Yea that's what I was noticing, I just figured I was playing it wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprawlnBrawl View Post
    yes mages arent efficient and require most heals. 5 OP warriors with infinite gap closers and pulls yet he only died twice and only required 130k healing

    http://i.imgur.com/GfOffie.jpg
    You were pocket healing, the mage died twice and did less damage than the war.

    Your point was......?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentleHell View Post
    You were pocket healing, the mage died twice and did less damage than the war.

    Your point was......?
    War has taken x2 more healing while taking same amount of damage. Warrior hasn't died a single time due to that, thats the main reason of damage done difference.

    And on top of that, Pyro is more about burst than dps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday View Post
    Isn't wl highest pve dps? Usually that means there is some pvp potential. I get there it's a lot of fluff aoe though
    Warlock is the highest pve DPS because you can sit on your target all day and spam void bolts and refresh Death's door all day.

    In PvP, cleanses are used, you cannot burst on command without sacrificing a significant chunk of sustained.
    Warlock is bad.
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    please just stop posting your misinformation here
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    how often you "snipe heals" is also important

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