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Thread: To Daglar ... What`s in Nightmare Tide for PvP ?

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    I'm sure there will be some pvp content in 3.0 but at the moment I'd be surprised if even the devs know what it will be.

    Expect it to be half baked, rushed out and implemented at the very last minute, like a loot box or +10 to prestige cap.

    I also expect that whatever it is will be met with great disapproval and much QQ on the pvp forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digital shaman View Post
    While I understand and agree with feeling PvP updates are neglected, its not hard to see that we ARE the clear minority. There's hundreds of PvE raiding guilds. I can only think of 4 PvP guilds of any size.
    Compare the number of people who are rank 90 to the people who are even done one boss in t3 raids. Tons of people pvp they just don't only pvp. It's pathetic that trion puts such an effort into pve (which is good since most pvpers pve too) only to put a 10th of that effort into pvp

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    It's also a flawed comparison that trion uses to view pvp only players as a small minority when there is barely any pvp content. Even pvp dailies are just more pve.

    If que times lately are any indication pvp is declining anyway. Waited 27 minutes for a karthan ridge for last week's weeky in a duo que before logging out and this was at "prime time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    If que times lately are any indication pvp is declining anyway. Waited 27 minutes for a karthan ridge for last week's weeky in a duo que before logging out and this was at "prime time".
    There wasn't anyone on your skill level available to match with! The imbalance would've been too great and a blowout would've occurred. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by digital shaman View Post
    While I understand and agree with feeling PvP updates are neglected, its not hard to see that we ARE the clear minority. There's hundreds of PvE raiding guilds. I can only think of 4 PvP guilds of any size.
    There are only a few PvP guilds left because this game doesn't lend itself to guild vs guild PvP. The PvP rifts are a joke, you can't queue more than one group for a WF, and CQ is rigged 90% of the time. A matchmaking ladder for GvG warfronts or conquest matches would be awesome, but it's probably too late now.

    Even still, I find it hard to believe that the players who rarely/never PvP outnumber those who rarely/never raid. It's much easier to casually PvP than it is to casually raid, and players of all levels can participate in WFs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimmyzz View Post
    There wasn't anyone on your skill level available to match with! The imbalance would've been too great and a blowout would've occurred. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otts View Post
    I can assure you that new Warfront map is real nightmare for any specs with channelled abilities.
    Blighted Antechamber sucks donkey balls. My disdain for it transcends my dislike for CQ.

    I'm not sure why the devs decided to go with a hedge labyrinth layout, but, at least for me, I end up running around lost as hell until another player finds me and sends me to respawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyhawke View Post
    Blighted Antechamber sucks donkey balls. My disdain for it transcends my dislike for CQ.

    I'm not sure why the devs decided to go with a hedge labyrinth layout, but, at least for me, I end up running around lost as hell until another player finds me and sends me to respawn.
    Im actually looking forward to people learning to LoS abilitys rather then face tank them and complain.

    Hopefully that tactice carrys over to the old warfronts.


    Personally ill save my judgment for when I get to play it live. Once people learn the map I dont think it will be nearly as bad as you describe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamisaibou View Post
    Well, a warfront doesn't require specific roles, while a dungeon requires a tank and a healer. When I queue as a tank it pops almost instantly, as a healer within a minute or two (about the same as a warfront), but as only dps...a long time.

    I think this says more about a majority preference of dpsing over healing or tanking than a majority preference of PvPing over PvEing.

    That isn't to say there aren't more people queuing for warfronts than dungeons - there could be, but we have no way of knowing how many dps are sitting in the queue waiting for a healer and a tank to come along. In contrast, for PvP once you have the required number of people, regardless of role, it can pop.
    Guess you missed all the others threads about the over abundance of healers in WFs and I almost always see tanks on both sides (and we all know how most PvPers feel about tanks in WFs lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    It's also a flawed comparison that trion uses to view pvp only players as a small minority when there is barely any pvp content. Even pvp dailies are just more pve.

    If que times lately are any indication pvp is declining anyway. Waited 27 minutes for a karthan ridge for last week's weeky in a duo que before logging out and this was at "prime time".
    Thats kinda like going to the Ford dealer, who mainly only wants to stock Escorts and may have a mustang or two and then say only "minority" of ppl that come on the lot are looking to buy mustangs. So they only stock escorts, because more ppl buy them. They can order you one, but they don't service them either. So, no matter how well the dealership thinks they are doing, they left money on the table, because the owner is stubborn and only wants to sell escorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords0fpain View Post
    Guess you missed all the others threads about the over abundance of healers in WFs and I almost always see tanks on both sides (and we all know how most PvPers feel about tanks in WFs lol).
    ...well since Subdue doesn't exist anymore, tanks are a bit *meh*.

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    I don't care if they add more warfronts more rated pvp and more pvp abilities as long as we get MOAR BATTLE DYES

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morwath View Post
    ...well since Subdue doesn't exist anymore, tanks are a bit *meh*.
    That was more of a reponse to raids need tanks and heals as to why it takes so long for ques to pop, we see both in WFs. I would surmise, that they prefer PvP... the devs may "say the opposite", though.
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    "New story quests, five addition levels (taking the cap to 65), more artifacts to collect, new inventory slots and more will be waiting in these abyssal depths."



    would be better off spending your time on WStar or WoW, if it's PvP you want

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    They are taking dps away so you can have healing wars.

    Kinda like warfronts now.....

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