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Thread: Suggestion to make Conquest more active

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    Default Suggestion to make Conquest more active

    Instead of giving 1 Warlord mark every ~10 minutes and 80/100/120 at the end, make it 10 marks every ~10 minutes with a bit of a bonus at the end, depending on whether you win/draw/lose. This way, you have to be active throughout whole Conquest to get marks, and ~5 min raid stomps don't get rewarded very well.

    Of course, numbers don't have to be these, but probably something along those lines.

    Pros/cons, discuss.

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    Or just make it fun so people want to do it.

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    It would be fun if there weren't premade raids stomping every game.

    But Trion obviously doesn't want to change that, so I'm giving another suggestion.
    Last edited by Simplici7y; 06-17-2014 at 12:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplici7y View Post
    Instead of giving 1 Warlord mark every ~10 minutes and 80/100/120 at the end, make it 10 marks every ~10 minutes with a bit of a bonus at the end, depending on whether you win/draw/lose. This way, you have to be active throughout whole Conquest to get marks, and ~5 min raid stomps don't get rewarded very well.

    Of course, numbers don't have to be these, but probably something along those lines.

    Pros/cons, discuss.
    If you do that then you're just punishing everybody else who doesn't like to do CQ that hops in at the end for the reward only. This would only further reward all of the CQ goons.

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    Or just make it fun so people want to do it.
    ^He's actually right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zindrix View Post
    If you do that then you're just punishing everybody else who doesn't like to do CQ that hops in at the end for the reward only. This would only further reward all of the CQ goons.
    The whole point of being rewarded in general is to get it for something you deserved, be it winning or trying. Rewarding people who did nothing whole match and then hoped in for last 1 min to get the rewards is just unfair, illogical and counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplici7y View Post
    It would be fun if there weren't premade raids stomping every game.

    But Trion obviously doesn't want to change that, so I'm giving another suggestion.
    its more fun to be on a stomped pug team vs a premade than it is to be in a match with pure pugs on all teams.

    having said that, the "make CQ fun so people want to do it" call is still valid.

    so is the OPs point about rewarding those who actually played the match significantly more than those who joined at the end for free rewards with zero effort.

    alternatively, open T3 pve raids when the raid reaches the last boss, so that everyone in the cluster is free to join and roll on loots.

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    Or to put it more simply, it doesn't matter if you're topping the charts if you're killing the wrong people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplici7y View Post
    The whole point of being rewarded in general is to get it for something you deserved, be it winning or trying. Rewarding people who did nothing whole match and then hoped in for last 1 min to get the rewards is just unfair, illogical and counterproductive.
    That's just the problem though. Trion has failed CQ twice now by making it both horribly boring and also by stuffing rewards in it which are either impossible to get by other means or impractical to get by other means. Not to mention the fact that it's favoring only a minority of the PvP population.

    RIght now people are just making the best of a bad situation by logging in right before it's over or by switching characters in attempt to get on the winning team. If they alter how marks are received then people may not even participate in CQ at all. If you haven't noticed, the majority of the population doesn't enjoy CQ.

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    Or get rid of it all together. Stupid game mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurPlaysRift View Post
    Or get rid of it all together. Stupid game mode.
    I think pretty much everyone besides the CQ troll guilds begged Trion to do that but they won't cave. They did just waste all of that development on the new awful CQ map too.
    Last edited by Zindrix; 06-19-2014 at 09:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplici7y View Post
    It would be fun if there weren't premade raids stomping every game.

    But Trion obviously doesn't want to change that, so I'm giving another suggestion.
    That is really true. I don't like joining and getting smashed in something that should for the most part be even. I didn't like premades in WoW and I don't like it in Rift.

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