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Thread: Do you really want to Fix Warfronts? Allow only premades of 3 players

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    Default Do you really want to Fix Warfronts? Allow only premades of 3 players

    I suggest premades of 3 players means 3/15 of the WF gonna be premade so that means only 20% + maybe some luck you get more good players. My points is premades should be reduced from 5 to 3 players. Im pretty sure WF gonna be more balanced and better. For CQ I would do the same premades reduced from 20 to 10 people. At least you will see more premades and more balance in both teams. Also I suggest WF pop up only when at least 2 premades of 3 people are ready to enter. What you think? Premades of 5 is too much that means 5/15 --> 33% + some other good players = unbalanced WF
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    you mean a premade max of 3?
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    I was invited to a "premade", turned down the invite, and carried my opposing teamed pugs to victory the next 2 games.

    Guys, man up and let people group with whoever they want to group with. Do it yourself or mash them back.
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    Since you play a mage your odds of getting into a premade -increase- when the premade can have -more players-.

    As a result -you want more slots for premades in warfronts-.

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    I hope they don't limit it. It'd be rather silly if you couldn't play with all your friends in an MMO. The issues you see are with the matchmaking process and not grouping with your friends. I'm still in Warfronts with people in freelancer gear and i'm half wearing Myrm. That is the real issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    Since you play a mage your odds of getting into a premade -increase- when the premade can have -more players-.

    As a result -you want more slots for premades in warfronts-.
    Or maybe they can just do pm v pm.....oh, wait...not enough ppl would que for that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords0fpain View Post
    Or maybe they can just do pm v pm.....oh, wait...not enough ppl would que for that...

    but but but how else would I pugstomp and post misleading screenshots!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConclusionTheFirst View Post
    but but but how else would I pugstomp and post misleading screenshots!?
    I don't post screen shots. But you are correct, some ppl need to be able to pug stomp or it would take them weeks to get thier weekly done on a level playing field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    Since you play a mage your odds of getting into a premade -increase- when the premade can have -more players-.

    As a result -you want more slots for premades in warfronts-.
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11...ps182ef7f5.jpg

    You wouldn't create new PM slots for mages, you would create more PM slots for rogues, warriors or clerics to further imbalance the warfronts.
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    PM has nothing to see with "friends" who wanna play together. They just way outnumber pugs for easy win, as if better gear (they often ask for R90 only) and predefine lead was not enough.
    It's absolutly not pvp, no skill involved. And it comes from people who pretend to love pvp, when they just kill it.
    As said before, we can bet that if there was a special CQ for PM, it would be empty, they don't want any kind of balance.

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    Not sure why people are hating on all the pre-mades. I can guarantee you that a Pre-made that could consistently get decent wf pops vs. other similarly geared pre-mades would love it.

    I can point to other MMO's that have successfully had systems in place where pre-mades vs. pre-mades was done quite often and in these other MMO's whenever a pre-made vs. pre-made happened it was more exciting then when a pre-made just dominated a pug.

    Your heart beats a bit faster, you have to make correct calls in vent (raidcall, TS whatever) and everyone has to be on top of their game. Playing vs. pugs it's actually pretty boring for a pre-made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violacea View Post
    I was invited to a "premade", turned down the invite, and carried my opposing teamed pugs to victory the next 2 games.

    Guys, man up and let people group with whoever they want to group with. Do it yourself or mash them back.
    I wasn't kidding when I said join us to come lose ^.^

    Quote Originally Posted by Koruen View Post
    PM has nothing to see with "friends" who wanna play together. They just way outnumber pugs for easy win, as if better gear (they often ask for R90 only) and predefine lead was not enough.
    It's absolutly not pvp, no skill involved. And it comes from people who pretend to love pvp, when they just kill it.
    As said before, we can bet that if there was a special CQ for PM, it would be empty, they don't want any kind of balance.
    Grouping with friends != LFM P90 premade. Do not confuse the two.

    I am known to duo or queue with 3-5 people. Why? Because I have a small group of friends I love playing with in this game. We don't care what our prestige is our what our comp is. I even sometimes get on my alts that have all Freelancer's gear or are mostly bolstered (because it's a fresh 60.) Queue to have fun but we'll still play competitively.
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    Premade vs PUG basically feels like running hacks/cheats. It's ridiculous. There should be an option in ques for premades vs premades, or que solo PUGs vs solo PUGs, and an option for traditional PUGstomp ques. There is no reason that this isn't and wasn't implemented a long time ago. There shouldn't be any opposition to this whatsoever. The only ones that would be against it are people that love to roll in Premades to squash unorganized pugs. Which is pretty pathetic honestly. They would even still have the option of queing for it with the traditional style que option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riane View Post
    I wasn't kidding when I said join us to come lose ^.^



    Grouping with friends != LFM P90 premade. Do not confuse the two.

    I am known to duo or queue with 3-5 people. Why? Because I have a small group of friends I love playing with in this game. We don't care what our prestige is our what our comp is. I even sometimes get on my alts that have all Freelancer's gear or are mostly bolstered (because it's a fresh 60.) Queue to have fun but we'll still play competitively.
    Don't think anyone does not want ppl to play together, they just want them playing against other groups of friends. I really do not see how that is unreasonable. There needs to some balance of friends playing together and the majority that prefers to PuG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords0fpain View Post
    Don't think anyone does not want ppl to play together, they just want them playing against other groups of friends. I really do not see how that is unreasonable. There needs to some balance of friends playing together and the majority that prefers to PuG.
    Having a "premade" on the opposing team doesn't guarantee them a win. I've lost a bunch with my "premade" and I've won a bunch. It has everything to do with whether or not you have a team of people that are willing to work together for objectives as well as shutting down healers and cab/doms/etc.

    Why wouldn't you want to play against a "premade" to try to shut them down to win the match? Or would you rather just have pugs v pugs and no challenge?

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