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    What's harder to kill? I wanna see a top notch assassin/nb take on both and see what's harder to kill.

    Puri sent or sent puri vs physician, against a p90 rogue and warrior.

    Obviously it takes good timing as a warrior or a drawn out fight for a rogue against a cleric. .. let's video compare to both a rogue and warrior so we can see if rogues are really op healers.

    P90 only, post duels here. Can anyone, after 20 minutes 1v1 kill a physician? Or is it hype.?
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    No sentinel or physician should ever die to a dps 1v1, so this is kinda pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    No sentinel or physician should ever die to a dps 1v1, so this is kinda pointless.
    except the cleric will eventually run out of mana and die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zasen View Post
    except the cleric will eventually run out of mana and die.
    Obviously physician will run out of resources first. 100 energy > 17k mana. It's simple math brah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    Obviously physician will run out of resources first. 100 energy > 17k mana. It's simple math brah.
    obviously a troll. lol. Nice try thou.

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    i made a post about this here

    phys is being adjusted tomorrow with the nerf to supportive care but i outline why phys is so tanky in this post with some numbers and whatever else

    http://forums.riftgame.com/game-disc...ml#post4811467
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    You can drain Sent / Puri after some time, but they have much better defensive CD's.

    Sentinel gets:

    1. Urgency: +50% movement speed for 10sec - 45sec cd.
    2. Healers Covenant: Reduces dmg taken by 40% for 10sec - 1min cd.
    3. Flash Of Radiance: Pacifies nearby enemies for 8sec or until dmged - 30sec cd
    4. Liberty of thought: Removes all control effects - 1min cd.
    5. Renewed Altruism: Reset the cooldown on all Sentinel abilities (except battle rez) - 2min cd.

    Now what Phys gets?

    1. More ST healing CD's
    2. some ****y selfbuff which trigger ~600 absorp shield (50% of dmg) once every 20sec
    3. another buff which causes 30% overhealing in to an absorp shield which scale with max hp (noticeable mostly on tank)
    4. Supportive Care which he wont be able to cast on self anymore.

    It's irrelevant if you dont manage to drain phys because It's a lot easier to CC Phys compared to Sent which get plenty of real escape abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysHealNeverDie View Post
    You can drain Sent / Puri after some time, but they have much better defensive CD's.

    Sentinel gets:

    1. Urgency: +50% movement speed for 10sec - 45sec cd.
    2. Healers Covenant: Reduces dmg taken by 40% for 10sec - 1min cd.
    3. Flash Of Radiance: Pacifies nearby enemies for 8sec or until dmged - 30sec cd
    4. Liberty of thought: Removes all control effects - 1min cd.
    5. Renewed Altruism: Reset the cooldown on all Sentinel abilities (except battle rez) - 2min cd.

    Now what Phys gets?

    1. More ST healing CD's
    2. some ****y selfbuff which trigger ~600 absorp shield (50% of dmg) once every 20sec
    3. another buff which causes 30% overhealing in to an absorp shield which scale with max hp (noticeable mostly on tank)
    4. Supportive Care which he wont be able to cast on self anymore.

    It's irrelevant if you dont manage to drain phys because It's a lot easier to CC Phys compared to Sent which get plenty of real escape abilities.
    Add this list:
    1. physician hps is better than sentinel. And we cant monitor absorbs exact amount.
    2. infinite resource.
    3. adrenaline shot. equal to 8500 mana regen in every 20 sec. No chanel, no penalty, no hp loosing, no interrupt.
    4. cleanse soul
    5. emergency response can crit and has absorb as well.
    6. 0 pts teleport in rs.
    7. biofeedback has damage reduction can be channelled while moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kartia View Post
    Add this list:
    1. physician hps is better than sentinel. And we cant monitor absorbs exact amount.
    2. infinite resource.
    3. adrenaline shot. equal to 8500 mana regen in every 20 sec. No chanel, no penalty, no hp loosing, no interrupt.
    4. cleanse soul
    5. emergency response can crit and has absorb as well.
    6. 0 pts teleport in rs.
    7. biofeedback has damage reduction can be channelled while moving.
    1. does he? or you count sub souls for it?
    2. wrong, you can drain him just fine when... (see nr 3)
    3. you cant use it when you get CC'd and that's his weakest point as he dont get bonus break free. Having high regen means nothing when you cant use your abilities.
    4. doesnt remove stuns and it's not Phys ability but Rogue ability. Clerics get their own special PA abilities.
    5. It's nerfed in PvP with the next patch, so gl reling on rng while Sent get more reliable defensive cds.
    6. 0 TP in RS is close to useless, it doesnt remove CC and it have 45sec cd.
    7. Biofeedback is useless against competent players. It may not only get interupted but you can also get debilitated due to secondary effect on certain interupt abilities.
    Last edited by AlwaysHealNeverDie; 06-04-2014 at 03:01 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    Obviously physician will run out of resources first. 100 energy > 17k mana. It's simple math brah.
    Pool size does not matter, what matters is costs for abilities and more importantly...rate it is returned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysHealNeverDie View Post
    1. does he? or you count sub souls for it?
    2. wrong, you can drain him just fine when... (see nr 3)
    3. you cant use it when you get CC'd and that's his weakest point as he dont get bonus break free. Having high regen means nothing when you cant use your abilities.
    4. doesnt remove stuns and it's not Phys ability but Rogue ability. Clerics get their own special PA abilities.
    5. It's nerfed in PvP with the next patch, so gl reling on rng while Sent get more reliable defensive cds.
    6. 0 TP in RS is close to useless, it doesnt remove CC and it have 45sec cd.
    7. Biofeedback is useless against competent players. It may not only get interupted but you can also get debilitated due to secondary effect on certain interupt abilities.
    So urgency is a good ability while shadow shift is crap. Muhahaha. I see
    Biased more?

    Only ppl who can tell the true difference are who play both.
    Now when phys get a few fix maybe ill give it a go again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveleys View Post
    No sentinel or physician should ever die to a dps 1v1, so this is kinda pointless.
    That before the sin buff a few months back, now a sent will run out of mana (not like the sent can do enough damage to be a threat anyway).
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    out of edit timer:

    Sentinel healing rely mostly cast time spells ie invocations. gg interrupt and silence. With physician you can spam instant builder and finisher without ever cast something, still doing fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddiescell View Post
    What's harder to kill? I wanna see a top notch assassin/nb take on both and see what's harder to kill.

    Puri sent or sent puri vs physician, against a p90 rogue and warrior.

    Obviously it takes good timing as a warrior or a drawn out fight for a rogue against a cleric. .. let's video compare to both a rogue and warrior so we can see if rogues are really op healers.

    P90 only, post duels here. Can anyone, after 20 minutes 1v1 kill a physician? Or is it hype.?
    No healer should be killable 1vs1, what do you think a healer is supposed to be in pvp?
    Quote Originally Posted by Muspel View Post
    I believe Assassin DoTs are uncleansable.

    It's still a terrible PvP spec compared to Marksman, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunzip View Post
    No healer should be killable 1vs1, what do you think a healer is supposed to be in pvp?
    Yes, lets ignore the existence of Chloros while talking about healers in PVP.

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