+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 19
Like Tree3Likes

Thread: A Third Crowd Control Modality - Debilitate.

  1. #1
    Ascendant
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    1,989

    Default A Third Crowd Control Modality - Debilitate.

    Debilitate should be given its own DR timer. This would go well with the latest changes to CC and offer more options that don't result in a lock-out for all the major CC abilities.

    Fear, Transmog, Sap, etc should remain on the one DR timer so as not to rock the boat too much and Roots should also be seperate.

    The debilitate change simplified things a little too much IMO and the change would make CC a bigger part of PvP. Break Frees are far too numerous and are on very short cooldowns for multiple souls; together with the Break Free buff, cleanses and only two DR timers it is very easy for CC to be negated.


    CC is too forgiving in Rift.

  2. #2
    Ascendant V1rul3n7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    2,343

    Default

    Roots are seperate.

    Transmogrify should be on its own unique timer.
    -=[ Virulent - 65 - P100 | Harlakk - 65 - P100 | Ascaroth - 62 - P95 | Brahman - 65 - P92 ]=-
    -=[ VirulentX - 70 - P100 | Harlakk - 70 - P92 | Ascaroth - 60 - P10 | BrahmanX - 1 - P0 ]=-
    | VIRALIST: 65 |

  3. #3
    Ascendant
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    1,989

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by V1rul3n7 View Post
    Roots are seperate.

    Transmogrify should be on its own unique timer.
    I know that roots are seperate, though I could have expressed it better.


    1. Debilitate.
    2. Roots.
    3. Fear, sap, mez, transmog and pretty much everything else.

    That is what I propose.

  4. #4
    Ascendant V1rul3n7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    2,343

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tookmyjob View Post
    I know that roots are seperate, though I could have expressed it better.


    1. Debilitate.
    2. Roots.
    3. Fear, sap, mez, transmog and pretty much everything else.

    That is what I propose.
    Yeah, I tend to agree to an extent, except that transmogrify is absolutely crucial for a dominator, which is why it needs its own unique timer.

    Then again, I'll be playing my rogue from now on because rogues literally rule the game.

    No need to worry about DR timers when you're a rogue :P
    -=[ Virulent - 65 - P100 | Harlakk - 65 - P100 | Ascaroth - 62 - P95 | Brahman - 65 - P92 ]=-
    -=[ VirulentX - 70 - P100 | Harlakk - 70 - P92 | Ascaroth - 60 - P10 | BrahmanX - 1 - P0 ]=-
    | VIRALIST: 65 |

  5. #5
    Ascendant
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    1,989

    Default

    All the CC that breaks on damage: transmog, sap, fear and mez should be in their own category. That is my justification for the DR modalities I suggested.

  6. #6
    Ascendant V1rul3n7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    2,343

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tookmyjob View Post
    All the CC that breaks on damage: transmog, sap, fear and mez should be in their own category. That is my justification for the DR modalities I suggested.
    They shouldn't break on damage in my opinion, this is what im suggesting.
    -=[ Virulent - 65 - P100 | Harlakk - 65 - P100 | Ascaroth - 62 - P95 | Brahman - 65 - P92 ]=-
    -=[ VirulentX - 70 - P100 | Harlakk - 70 - P92 | Ascaroth - 60 - P10 | BrahmanX - 1 - P0 ]=-
    | VIRALIST: 65 |

  7. #7
    Rift Disciple RealButterfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    147

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by V1rul3n7 View Post
    No need to worry about DR timers when you're a rogue
    I don't know why you write this, because when I play my rogue, I get "immune message" so often when I try to stun someone.

    Or did something change with 2.7?
    I'm still at work, so didn't have a chance to log in yet.

  8. #8
    Rift Chaser
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    355

    Default

    I feel the Debilitate is much much worst than old way. I got debilitated non-stop since the new patch is up. Getting much harder to cast spells, those healers not affected by "having to cast" is pretty much unaffected.

    This new CC is crap! Dev need to look at the algorithm.

    And yes, if u r a rogue... u don't need to worry much.

  9. #9
    Ascendant Lords0fpain's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    1,827

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by polarshift View Post
    I feel the Debilitate is much much worst than old way. I got debilitated non-stop since the new patch is up. Getting much harder to cast spells, those healers not affected by "having to cast" is pretty much unaffected.

    This new CC is crap! Dev need to look at the algorithm.

    And yes, if u r a rogue... u don't need to worry much.
    Not enough soul bundles have been sold to look into anything, atm....and rogues, that has been going on for months on end and the only (if any) changes that happen, is they get made even easier...
    "There are other aspects of the game that we want you to engage in."

    ~Daglar

  10. #10
    Plane Touched Moirg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    254

    Default

    Its Damn shame they havnt given nb that buff yet... Im losing faith in trion now.

  11. #11
    Ascendant
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    1,989

    Default

    Also, the Break Free buff should be removed. With all the CC breaks, why is it necessary for everyone to have four seconds of CC immunity available so often?

    If Trion won't remove the buff, then Break Free's cooldown should at least be increased to two minutes for everyone.

  12. #12
    Prophet of Telara Raistlinxx's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    1,140

    Default

    What is debil paired with for its DR?
    I've been trying to test it out.
    In my current para build I have a 4 second stun and a 3 second debil,

    About half the time I can land both giving me 7 seconds uptime on a caster (healer)

    The other half they'll eat the stun then be immune to debil once the 4 seconds have past.

    When it work it's awesome but it's not very reliable.

    ~ Harming

  13. #13
    Ascendant
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    1,989

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlinxx View Post
    What is debil paired with for its DR?
    I've been trying to test it out.
    In my current para build I have a 4 second stun and a 3 second debil,

    About half the time I can land both giving me 7 seconds uptime on a caster (healer)

    The other half they'll eat the stun then be immune to debil once the 4 seconds have past.

    When it work it's awesome but it's not very reliable.

    ~ Harming
    absolutely everything except root. It probably just bugs sometimes.
    Last edited by Tookmyjob; 05-10-2014 at 02:58 PM.

  14. #14
    Champion TheSundanceKid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    492

    Default

    Debil is 100% broken at the moment.

    I played my Cleric yesterday and I get Debil message so often it is ridiculous. Being stunned for 3-7 seconds (yes THAT long) without any option to breakfree as everything is greyed out is OP to say the least. Combine it with it happening yesterday in the Codex for approximately 15 times (lost count after 9 or 10) and you know that there wont be any heals anymore pretty soon.

    Debil needs to be fixed asap.
    Last edited by TheSundanceKid; 05-10-2014 at 11:41 PM.

  15. #15
    Ascendant micshaz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    1,468

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RealButterfly View Post
    I don't know why you write this, because when I play my rogue, I get "immune message" so often when I try to stun someone.

    Or did something change with 2.7?
    I'm still at work, so didn't have a chance to log in yet.
    virulent is pretty famous on these forums for being bad - so that might explain it

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts