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    So I get tired of the nonsense of this forum....no one with 40k does that damage, this is AoE damage, no burst damage blah blah blah....

    So here is a story in pictures...

    Of a warrior with 39.4k HP.

    http://i.imgur.com/C6dl2v5.jpg

    Which is roughly 14,000 more than an MM would have. So you would think, well given that huge HP advantage, the MM would hit for more, he would do more damage.

    But when we look at the DPS meter we realise that the Warrior has the highest DPS around!

    http://i.imgur.com/clBf2MP.jpg

    Doing more than those around him, and yet with between 9-15k more HP.

    That's ok you say, because he is all about AoE, he has no ST target damage!!

    Well lets look at the abilities on offer?

    http://i.imgur.com/N3e0j4u.jpg

    Look closer at the DPS meter and you think, wow that Decisive Strike hits really hard....6k max hits and an average of 3k..

    http://i.imgur.com/VsEQG9e.jpg

    And this a single target ability, making up 16% of the warrior damage
    http://www.rifthead.com/ability/-650...ecisive-strike

    So that is only one ST ability, it doesn't mean anything.

    http://i.imgur.com/LZX4hll.jpg

    King of the Hill.
    http://www.rifthead.com/ability/-727...ng-of-the-hill

    http://i.imgur.com/LZX4hll.jpg

    Max hit 4k, average hit 2,8k; 7.1% of the damage of the warrior.

    We now have, combined, 23.7% of the warriors damage being ST.

    Lets add Breaking Blow

    http://www.rifthead.com/ability/-945587/breaking-blow

    4.7k Max hit, 3.1k average hit, makes up another 6.1% of the Warriors damage.

    So now, 29.8 of the damage is single target, but these warriors, they are AoE damage.

    Piercing Thrust.
    http://www.rifthead.com/ability/-551...iercing-thrust

    http://i.imgur.com/is6Vkhs.jpg

    Max hit 2.7k average hit 1.7k, making up another 7.6% of the Warriors damage.

    We are now on 37.4%

    Now we can look at Shock Pulse.
    http://www.rifthead.com/ability/-43678548/shock-pulse

    http://i.imgur.com/7LE57TV.jpg

    Max hit 2.3k, average hit 1.1k Another 7.6% of the warriors damage.

    We are now at 45% of the warriors damage being ST and many of those hits striking for far more than any other DPS class.

    Arterial Strike, crit reliant.
    http://www.rifthead.com/ability/-945...rterial-strike

    Another 5.7% of the Warriors damage.

    This places the warrior over 50.7% single target damage.

    20.2% for Killing Field + 3.8% for Wave of Steel in terms of AoE, so less than 1/4 of the Warriors damage is AoE damage.

    Of the 30% of the Warriors damage that is not covered by the above abilities and Killing Field + Wave of Steel....we have:

    5.6% Reactive damage (attacker takes damage).
    4.8% Charge ability
    4.7% Charge ability
    3.7% Reactive ability (after a block etc)
    3.4% Empowering Strike

    So lets compare.

    24% of the Damage of the Warrior is AoE damage.
    67% of the Damage is Single Target.

    9% is assorted auto attack and damaging abilities lower than that.

    The Warrior does 3 times more damage in single Target attacks than Area of Effect attacks.

    The Warrior hits for 6k as a max on 1 ability and 4k as a max on another 2 abilities.

    The Warrior has 39,400 hp.

    Yet this is all good?
    Last edited by Drakanish; 05-03-2014 at 06:51 AM.

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    Again with the Tom Foolery, didn't even listen to what I said in your previous post. Spamming the forums with your propaganda is just Tom Foolery.

    AHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA 1200 DPS is what your arguing about? OMG L2P.
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    I agree Drak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tohrid View Post
    Again with the Tom Foolery, didn't even listen to what I said in your previous post. Spamming the forums with your propaganda is just Tom Foolery.

    AHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA 1200 DPS is what your arguing about? OMG L2P.

    Learn to understand how a DPS meter works.

    When you are not fighting in a warfront, it continues to count. Time goes by, but no damage is done....so your DPS goes down.

    1200 dps compared to two VERY good PvP rogues, that anyone who plays Warfronts a lot on the EU server will recognise.

    Medena and Cloey.

    Two devastating rogues. Cloey was second in damage on a team that did miserably. 69 kills to 15.

    Yet her DPS shows up as 784. 2nd in damage....2nd to the warrior of course.

    edited to add..

    My apologies, I missed Oycbi, another devastating Rogue on the EU PvP servers...again 784 dps....he was 3rd top damage overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakanish View Post
    Learn to understand how a DPS meter works.

    When you are not fighting in a warfront, it continues to count. Time goes by, but no damage is done....so your DPS goes down.

    1200 dps compared to two VERY good PvP rogues, that anyone who plays Warfronts a lot on the EU server will recognise.

    Medena and Cloey.

    Two devestating rogues. Cloey was second in damage on a team that did miserably. 69 kills to 15.

    Yet her DPS shows up as 784. 2nd in damage....2nd to the warrior of course.
    I do know how Rift meter works, I also run with simple meter. 1200 DPS on the Rift meter is garbage. 9 threads in the past month started by you and Virulent, and lord knows how many posts in other threads, is also garbage. With you posting numbers like this and then complain about it, I can't take you serious in any form. Come to me when you have a warrior parsing twice that if not more on the Rift meter you think you're so knowledgeable about.

    What you seem to not comprehend is that with you spewing visceral like this, there is no way you have credibility. Nothing you say has any weight anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tohrid View Post
    I do know how Rift meter works, I also run with simple meter. 1200 DPS on the Rift meter is garbage. 9 threads in the past month started by you and Virulent, and lord knows how many posts in other threads, is also garbage. With you posting numbers like this and then complain about it, I can't take you serious in any form. Come to me when you have a warrior parsing twice that if not more on the Rift meter you think you're so knowledgeable about.
    It measures everyone equally.

    It doesn't single out warriors and decide to fluff their numbers for fun.

    I think this is enough, the Developers are clearly not wanting to address this issue.

    I created this thread to prove a point to those posting misleading information.

    Warriors don't do that damage with 40k hp.

    Yes they do.

    Warriors are just AoE damage no SingleTarget

    No they are not AoE; 3/4 of their damage is single target.



    These misleading statements made by warriors proven wrong by the images above.
    Last edited by Drakanish; 05-03-2014 at 07:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakanish View Post
    It measures everyone equally.

    It doesn't single out warriors and decide to fluff their numbers for fun.

    I think this is enough, the Developers are clearly not wanting to address this issue.

    I created this thread to prove a point to those posting misleading information.

    Warriors don't do that damage with 40k hp.

    Yes they do.

    Warriors are just AoE damage no SingleTarget

    No they are not 3/4 of their damage is single target.



    These misleading statements made by warriors proven wrong by the images above.
    Your images are subpar in facts, thus proving nothing but your lack of knowledge.

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    Because the warriors are on an opposing team u find it a major issue losing. But if they was in your team every match u wouldn't be complaining as much

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    Meter doesn't mean anything in PvP. Hope that wasn't a spoiler.
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    Jesus what would he say if he saw my shaman pvp parses :/.

    Having said that WL is OP as ****, needs a nerf. But this game is **** and no one cares, especially not the devs.
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    if you are sin or mm you should not be dying to warriors in wfs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakanish View Post
    So I get tired of the nonsense of this forum....no one with 40k does that damage, this is AoE damage, no burst damage blah blah blah....
    Do you have any links to video of you playing? Rift has a built in video recorder if you don't have any, you can use it to send video directly to youtube. Use ctrl Y to turn it on and off.
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    [http://i.imgur.com/VsEQG9e.jpg]< lol I never knew some warlords use wave of steel over piercing thrust. Well I guess I have seen some warlords that just try to tank the opposing side with pockets and not bother to kite at all or using their pulls. Many just try to get big numbers with aoe as a large portion of their damage regardless of how much damage they take because they can from their heals..

    Maybe warlord is to viable in melee compared to every other single soul, especially if the opposing side is mediocre but I guess the ss of the warlord posted by the op does have the gear to go with it and can do well even if it is not played particularly well.

    In regard to the ss posted by useugi, that match seemed like domination by the blue side. Rogues indeed do seem to have it tough, they can't exactly face tank and need to play exceptionally well to not die, and burst at the right times and targets. If you're facing decent players, they would most likely first target the squishier rouges that have less hp, that's the way it goes. My stance about the whole issue is still neutral because of the bad matchmaking and gear standardization. Yep warlords are overtuned, but what can you do about it lol. As long as warlord isn't as broken as tempest 1 shotting people from 35m range, and able to be countered there is probably no need for drastic measures. Although one thing I know for sure is warlord op based from my time playing it. If you really know how to play it and have decent gear, you can top charts easily and gain victory for your team. Warlords if played well are likely to be the best melee asset in the warfront. However, it could argued I need heals, I want to play in melee range, I'm a warrior I don't want to be playing ****** tempest! (my opinion is tempest is pretty shameful for a warrior soul) Also I'm sure the reaction by many warriors at the time was being indifferent about it when tempest got nerfed and the fact that many knew there was still warlord. Yep still a really good viable strong pvp spec. Although some warriors did still argue tempest was fine, hehe soon everyone realized how awesome warlord was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bliter View Post
    Do you have any links to video of you playing? Rift has a built in video recorder if you don't have any, you can use it to send video directly to youtube. Use ctrl Y to turn it on and off.
    I can make some and post them.

    That particular game I was playing Stealth, as we were out dps'd and out healed so I was flag capping.

    Many of the screen shots I have posted have been of warriors dominating....on my team.

    My issue isn't losing, happens a lot sadly, my issue is when there is no balance to the classes and one class dominates above others.

    I have dominated as a DPS Rogue, due to poor play by other teams.

    Here is an example:

    http://i.imgur.com/wp7AFyw.jpg

    That is one in every ten matches though, and if people paid attention, I wouldn't be able to do that.

    Notice no warriors in that game really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakanish View Post
    Can beat rogues, plz narf
    Derplords are ridiculous, but lol at rogues complaining about anything in PvP.

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