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Thread: Daglar: nerf cross healing cleric baddies!

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    Default Daglar: nerf cross healing cleric baddies!

    If no other class can do it.... What makes clerics so important? Add a DR or something to cleric heals to even the playing field please!
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    Wow you're on fire with moronic posts today. Good stuff
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    Delete CQ and ban all CQ regulars.

    Game fixed.

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    Oh come on guys don't bash him he just needs some lotion for his arse.
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    Its not healing that is the problem it is the absorbs and link.. but then again... when a class can lock you at 100% HP its hard for anyone to b!$%^ about burst with a straight face..
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    We are going to be stuck in this ***t meta until Trion can re-establish a front line in this game. It will forever be a meta of burst damage v burst healing and everyone will cry OP to whoever killed them and when they can't insta gib someone they will cry foul on the healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashmemory View Post
    Its not healing that is the problem it is the absorbs and link.. but then again... when a class can lock you at 100% HP its hard for anyone to b!$%^ about burst with a straight face..
    There are many problems. Should address cross heals before we go nerfing links and shields imo. Aor heals should not cross. We need more emphasis on st heals and some kind of DR for multiple identical aoe heals. I think this would make it easier to solve alot of the other stuff.
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    Yall just mad bc you know I am onto something. Clerics should in the very least not receive aoe heals from the same talent trees as other clerics using them. This will put them in a similar position as chloros and bards and honestly makes alot of sense. Shields and links would certainly not be as potent if thier was less aoe cross healing going on. This would also cause for the frontlines to be more friendly to melee dps. We need to bring back more emphasis to st spot heals and move away from lazy *** spam aoe healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landstalker View Post
    There are many problems. Should address cross heals before we go nerfing links and shields imo. Aor heals should not cross. We need more emphasis on st heals and some kind of DR for multiple identical aoe heals. I think this would make it easier to solve alot of the other stuff.
    Out of curiosity what exactly do you want nerfed. Multiple wardens healing? rarely see that unless its PoS or CQ, in which case is this what your after? Do you want all AoE healing nerfed ie, bard, warden and chloro are all healing and thus each player recieving said heals takes DR on incoming heals. Do you want targets that have links to take a DR from say sent heals. About the only thing I can get behind you on is warden AoE heals in PoS and CQ, but you and I both know people will find a work around for their PMs for this.

    Also keep in mind with regards to PM's in CQ, average group has 1 chloro, 1 bard and 5 clerics (1-2 defilers, 1 puri, maybe 1 sent and the rest wardens) so you don't really have a lot of "stacked" heals (stacked in the sense of 5 wardens cross healing the raid). The only cross healing in this instance would be 1-3 wardens depending on the group make up, if you included all healing then ya you would have a case for some DR's as you would have bard, chloro, wardens, and puri all with the potential of raid heals.

    I am starting to ramble so I am going to stop here and dwell on the subject some more.
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    Wouldn't you have to also nerf cross DPS'ing...err, focus firing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violacea View Post
    Wouldn't you have to also nerf cross DPS'ing...err, focus firing?
    Common sense, like Trion Dev's, has no place on these forums, please take that to the class specific forums or the PvE related forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelebra View Post
    Out of curiosity what exactly do you want nerfed. Multiple wardens healing? rarely see that unless its PoS or CQ, in which case is this what your after? Do you want all AoE healing nerfed ie, bard, warden and chloro are all healing and thus each player recieving said heals takes DR on incoming heals. Do you want targets that have links to take a DR from say sent heals. About the only thing I can get behind you on is warden AoE heals in PoS and CQ, but you and I both know people will find a work around for their PMs for this.

    Also keep in mind with regards to PM's in CQ, average group has 1 chloro, 1 bard and 5 clerics (1-2 defilers, 1 puri, maybe 1 sent and the rest wardens) so you don't really have a lot of "stacked" heals (stacked in the sense of 5 wardens cross healing the raid). The only cross healing in this instance would be 1-3 wardens depending on the group make up, if you included all healing then ya you would have a case for some DR's as you would have bard, chloro, wardens, and puri all with the potential of raid heals.

    I am starting to ramble so I am going to stop here and dwell on the subject some more.
    Any spammable or very short cd ape healing ability should not cross heal or have some
    Sort of dr if the exact same ability is used from another person.
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    Put a CD on THIS (and all other similar abilities) and cleric healing will be more balanced.

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    AE healing abilities aren't the problem and anyone spamming these in Warfronts is generally bad and contributing little to the team. These are already heavily nerfed.

    4 clerics spamming heals on one individual and switching to whoever is being is focused is more likely the thing you are complaining about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fripples View Post
    Put a CD on THIS (and all other similar abilities) and cleric healing will be more balanced.
    No cause then they would run out of mana in PVE, and we can't have players thinking in PVE.

    Easy solution to too much mana: OP passive manage drains, but only to two souls because specialization isn't a problem in this game at all.
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