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    Default I can't find diminishing return answers

    Are there any diminishing returns on CC, most specifically silence. Perhaps I hadn't noticed it before but as of the last couple weeks every skirmish in warfronts and most especially battles in conquest, I am silenced back to back to back so much that it's impossible to play my character. I use the break free just to try and get a cast off and I can get one instant then silenced again and again. Out of 10 seconds of play I'm silenced 7-8 seconds.I don't mind dying in pvp, hell I play a mage I'm going to die more than most. But I find it tiring that I die without any way of participating.

    Any help greatly appreciated.

    I'm only prestige level 68 I think in full Freelancer's gear I think it's called, and I do have max conquest points if that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalto View Post
    Are there any diminishing returns on CC, most specifically silence. Perhaps I hadn't noticed it before but as of the last couple weeks every skirmish in warfronts and most especially battles in conquest, I am silenced back to back to back so much that it's impossible to play my character. I use the break free just to try and get a cast off and I can get one instant then silenced again and again. Out of 10 seconds of play I'm silenced 7-8 seconds.I don't mind dying in pvp, hell I play a mage I'm going to die more than most. But I find it tiring that I die without any way of participating.

    Any help greatly appreciated.

    I'm only prestige level 68 I think in full Freelancer's gear I think it's called, and I do have max conquest points if that matters.
    It's not exactly diminishing returns anymore, it's immunity. If you have nameplates on, when you get CC'd there will be an icon next to your nameplate showing you are immune to CC. Once the icon is gone you can get CC'd again.
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    I wish I could run fraps to show what I mean, but the performance even with a pretty high end machine is very shoddy. Is it immunity to all CC or just that specific type? I look like a silenced ping pong ball out there. Silenced, pulled, feared, kicked away, silenced, interrupted and silenced, stunned, snared, silenced, etc. I've stopped pvping it's gotten so bad for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalto View Post
    I wish I could run fraps to show what I mean, but the performance even with a pretty high end machine is very shoddy. Is it immunity to all CC or just that specific type? I look like a silenced ping pong ball out there. Silenced, pulled, feared, kicked away, silenced, interrupted and silenced, stunned, snared, silenced, etc. I've stopped pvping it's gotten so bad for me.
    There are 2 sets. Roots have the aqua green eagle face looking thingy and stuns/silences have the maroon faceless head getting bonked looking thingy.

    No immunity from pulls/knock backs/interrupts/snares.

    I have gotten lost a few times during ping pongs. After a few bouncing around the map I throw my hands up and scream, "Where am I?!".
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    One thing I get annoyed at now with the system is when ever im CCd it 99% slways affects me but when im CCing a cleric all i see mostly is inmune whilst they continue playing god.

    Just saying.

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    DR/immunity is equal to the max duration of whichever CC you were hit with, starting from when the effect ends. Example would be getting hit by AP and breaking free instantly, you are then immune for 8s(max duration) before you are vulnerable to that class of CC(everything but roots basically) again. Choking gas bomb has no duration, so no DR/immunity period.

    The old DR system was superior, but what can you do.
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    I guess maybe trying another class or spec with my mage. I primarily run Chloro, and on occasion I'll swap to Harb or Dom, but I find Dom with the same issue and Harb seems to garner more attention and I get focused down fast.

    Thank you guys for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalto View Post
    I look like a silenced ping pong ball out there. Silenced, pulled, feared, kicked away, silenced, interrupted and silenced, stunned, snared, silenced, etc. I've stopped pvping it's gotten so bad for me.
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    Everything is just to long to begin with. No CC should go past a duration of like 3 or 4 secs. A 10 sec w/e is the most ******ed thing Ive ever seen. more ******ed then ppl who take this pvp seriously. Play LoL you don't need more then 2 or 3 secs to do what you have to do.
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    [QUOTE=robbinthehoodz;4658281] maroon faceless head getting bonked [QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbinthehoodz View Post

    No immunity from pulls/knock backs/interrupts/snares.

    There is defintely immunity from pulls, but I don't think there is an icon. The skill will just be grayed out on the casters bar. If it is an AOE pull anybody around the target not immune will still be pulled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thondrin View Post
    There is defintely immunity from pulls, but I don't think there is an icon. The skill will just be grayed out on the casters bar. If it is an AOE pull anybody around the target not immune will still be pulled.
    There's no icon, but if you look at the target, most of the time they gain a debuff called "Grounded" that provides immunity to/from pulls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalto View Post
    I wish I could run fraps to show what I mean, but the performance even with a pretty high end machine is very shoddy. Is it immunity to all CC or just that specific type? I look like a silenced ping pong ball out there. Silenced, pulled, feared, kicked away, silenced, interrupted and silenced, stunned, snared, silenced, etc. I've stopped pvping it's gotten so bad for me.
    Once you become decent at healing as chloro you will get focused by good members on the opossing team.

    Use your subspec to go into pyro for flicker. It removes all CC and will save your butt a lot if you learn how to escape with it. Flicker also removes silence.

    Learn to skirt max range as well as utilizing line of sight when focused. Also using things like withering vinesx3 (a dot) and corrosive spores (dot) will keep you "healing" even when cc'd.


    There are more tricks but that should be a good start. Also, if you dont know how to move and cast when you can you wont learn what to hit when pressured and you need to move to survive.

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    Default CC immunity is a joke

    I had a duel challenge in TB where a VK warrior had me silenced for 4 seconds every 8 seconds of the fight. So 50% of the time I was looking at greyed out abilities.
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