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    Default Pyromancer in PvP?

    I was curious on a few things about pyromancer,

    What build should i be using so far i have been told two different builds

    61pyro/8Archon/7harbinger

    and

    61pyro/10elementalist/5Harbinger.

    i always liked atleast 0pt Dominator for Squirrel + Neutral pot for a instant cast primary bolt to use while i couldnt instantly cast Fireball, but i was told this was incorrect?

    Also could someone give me a rough outline of how it works in PvP?

    Is it across same guidelines as PvE? Fireball every 3 secs with fillers?

    I see alot of people macroing Internalize Charge with Extinguish and Fireball? Is this correct? they seem to run around using Instas to gain charge as fast as possible then jump in with Internailize charge+Extinguish+Fireball instead of keeping route with 3sec Intervals?
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    Play Archon/Pyro imo.

    It's more rewarding personally, benefits your team, and every few minutes you can still blow a fool up. (Or I should say melt his face. The trick is timing your cinder with the first/last tick depending on when you proc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wing man View Post
    Play Archon/Pyro imo.

    It's more rewarding personally, benefits your team, and every few minutes you can still blow a fool up. (Or I should say melt his face. The trick is timing your cinder with the first/last tick depending on when you proc.
    u mean pyrochon? the 40archon/36pyro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffz View Post
    u mean pyrochon? the 40archon/36pyro?
    I get a little more creative with the build, but you're on the right track. If it's not to your taste I respect that but don't knock it. Your debuffs are the reason these jokers on the forum don't break 10kbs when you put your mind to it. The rage whispers are also quite delicious.

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    What does archon do? Is that a mage ability?

    I wonder that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newguy View Post
    What does archon do? Is that a mage ability?

    I wonder that.
    Archon is a Support soul lol XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffz View Post
    Archon is a Support soul lol XD
    Support like my bard? Do they have motifs too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newguy View Post
    What does archon do? Is that a mage ability?

    I wonder that.
    Archon is an earth bard, singing the song of mother earth while melting your face with the warmth of love and magma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wing man View Post
    Archon is an earth bard, singing the song of mother earth while melting your face with the warmth of love and magma.
    Thank you Wing Man you are about the most helpful person I've seen on these forums. I'm trying to start taking my PVP seriously so I can do arenas and stuff.

    I will have to look for an earth bard next PVP match I'm in. Again, thank you!
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    I sense a brotastic bromance flaring up in this *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffz View Post
    I was curious on a few things about pyromancer,

    What build should i be using so far i have been told two different builds

    61pyro/8Archon/7harbinger

    and

    61pyro/10elementalist/5Harbinger.

    i always liked atleast 0pt Dominator for Squirrel + Neutral pot for a instant cast primary bolt to use while i couldnt instantly cast Fireball, but i was told this was incorrect?

    Also could someone give me a rough outline of how it works in PvP?

    Is it across same guidelines as PvE? Fireball every 3 secs with fillers?

    I see alot of people macroing Internalize Charge with Extinguish and Fireball? Is this correct? they seem to run around using Instas to gain charge as fast as possible then jump in with Internailize charge+Extinguish+Fireball instead of keeping route with 3sec Intervals?
    Please don't macro Internalize Charge to anything.

    How it works in PvP:

    Every 3 seconds your 61 pt ability will shoot off an additional fireball. Try and keep track of when you have double fireball.

    Fireball procs Wildfire (3 flame bolts) and an instant cinderburst. Stagger wildfire casts to try and make sure that every instant fireball is a double fireball, as well as any other spells that you can use as 'fillers'.

    Internalize charge should be used when attempting to do burst damage.


    Hard-casted fireballs (doubles) allow for many powerful burst combinations as a few spells can all land within one second. Time these with countdown for even more burst.
    eg. fireball>fulminate>inferno>countdown detonation - all hitting at once.
    fireball>cinderburst>flame bolt

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    I go with 13 Dom and 2 archon.

    Gives me reflect, aoe silence(AP is still probably one of the most broken pvp skills ingame) a mana burn, a punt/interrupt, a damage shield(to troll rogues) 700 armor(lol) and 7 stacks of purge buffering bonus endurance.

    I do miss that harb runspeed sometimes though.
    Last edited by Caldern; 11-13-2013 at 07:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffz View Post
    I was curious on a few things about pyromancer,

    What build should i be using so far i have been told two different builds

    61pyro/8Archon/7harbinger

    and

    61pyro/10elementalist/5Harbinger.

    i always liked atleast 0pt Dominator for Squirrel + Neutral pot for a instant cast primary bolt to use while i couldnt instantly cast Fireball, but i was told this was incorrect?

    Also could someone give me a rough outline of how it works in PvP?

    Is it across same guidelines as PvE? Fireball every 3 secs with fillers?

    I see alot of people macroing Internalize Charge with Extinguish and Fireball? Is this correct? they seem to run around using Instas to gain charge as fast as possible then jump in with Internailize charge+Extinguish+Fireball instead of keeping route with 3sec Intervals?
    61 pyro, 10 dom, 5 harb. that is all.

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    I need to know if jumping does improve my gameplay. I read that it is a hack though and don't want to get my bard account banned for jumping. Can someone confirm or deny this?

    In other news I think I will grill up some sausage tonight on my grill.
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    You used to to cool.
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    A few people have mentioned PyroDom but I wouldn't recommend it because you sacrifice a lot of DPS for a small amount of Dom's utility, yet you're nowhere near as effective as a proper Dom build.

    Pyro is designed for DPS so put your points into whichever subsouls maximize your DPS. If your team needs a Dom then switch to a proper Dom build. Don't fall into the trap of trying to perform to many rolls at once. Do one job and do it well.
    Last edited by StateOfUnrest; 11-13-2013 at 02:56 PM.

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