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    Default Sabs make better mages

    Sabs have all the CC and burst I expect a mage to have minus the setup.

    Who cares about setup though when you can do it 10 more meters than anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboots View Post
    Sabs have all the CC and burst I expect a mage to have minus the setup.

    Who cares about setup though when you can do it 10 more meters than anyone else.
    its pretty slick eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboots View Post
    Sabs have all the CC and burst I expect a mage to have minus the setup.

    Who cares about setup though when you can do it 10 more meters than anyone else.
    I hate to say it but I agree.

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    You too? With the "quick, talk about something else so we all forget how imbalanced Warriors are"?
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    Uh CC hell no. But burst definitely. Stormcallers need a buff considering they are the "aoe soul" As do cabalists really. Both have kinda fallen behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    You too? With the "quick, talk about something else so we all forget how imbalanced Warriors are"?
    I died four times tonight.

    Three times were to Sab(s) blowing cooldowns. Once was to a Warrior who two-GCD'd me*. Nerf Sabs (and me wearing 2pc PvE gear).

    The cooldowns are pretty silly tbh. I wouldn't personally clamour for a nerf but I did have to laugh at it.

    * He dropped me with pre-loaded Rift Surge + Frenzied Strike + Rift Strike, and I also may have helped it along by using Rapid Fire Shot because OH GOD THE BURNING BLOOD/RIFT SURGE, though the actual deathblow came in the form of Storm Burst 2s after he was dead (because I similarly dropped him -- from the 40% he was down to -- with pre-loaded RFS + insta Shadow Fire), which was puzzling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboots View Post
    Sabs have all the CC and burst I expect a mage to have minus the setup.

    Who cares about setup though when you can do it 10 more meters than anyone else.
    10m more than warriors you mean? Sab and Mage have equal range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    You too? With the "quick, talk about something else so we all forget how imbalanced Warriors are"?
    He's right though, Library weekend made it really apparent. I think we proved our point re: Rift Storm and Lingering Wounds being overpowered and I'm not surprised the conversation has moved on.

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    Saboteur may have the crowd control, the burst damage, (potentially) longer range, acceptable ST damage and the maneuverability... but Stormcaller has a combat rez!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MannSeastone View Post
    He's right though, Library weekend made it really apparent. I think we proved our point re: Rift Storm and Lingering Wounds being overpowered and I'm not surprised the conversation has moved on.
    Meh, if you think it's adequate than maybe it is. My opinion on Warriors was bolstered today, I decided to run on my alt and good lord lol... Just, good lord.

    Edit: But yeah, the Sab 4pc is as ridiculous as Warriors are. Only thing it doesn't have is a healing debuff, but the things it does without a healing debuff are without a doubt overpowered. Synergy crystals need to stop working in PVP, at the bare minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    Meh, if you think it's adequate than maybe it is. My opinion on Warriors was bolstered today, I decided to run on my alt and good lord lol... Just, good lord.

    Edit: But yeah, the Sab 4pc is as ridiculous as Warriors are. Only thing it doesn't have is a healing debuff, but the things it does without a healing debuff are without a doubt overpowered. Synergy crystals need to stop working in PVP, at the bare minimum.
    It does have a lot more flexibility/mobility though. Just watching sabs casually strafing in the back line throwing bombs and charges out. Stormcaller and Cab have to stand and cast. Warrior has to move into front line. I think that's the difference you notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    Meh, if you think it's adequate than maybe it is. My opinion on Warriors was bolstered today, I decided to run on my alt and good lord lol... Just, good lord.

    Edit: But yeah, the Sab 4pc is as ridiculous as Warriors are. Only thing it doesn't have is a healing debuff, but the things it does without a healing debuff are without a doubt overpowered. Synergy crystals need to stop working in PVP, at the bare minimum.
    Its only rogues that benefit from these bonuses, i never see mages/clerics/warriors using their 4 piece even if they have them. The damage output they can do with this gear is insane, having higher mobility and higher damage is a huge advantage vs everyone else, why they have kept these in for so long i have no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronor View Post
    Its only rogues that benefit from these bonuses, i never see mages/clerics/warriors using their 4 piece even if they have them. The damage output they can do with this gear is insane, having higher mobility and higher damage is a huge advantage vs everyone else, why they have kept these in for so long i have no idea
    Because PVE crystal bonuses are a joke for pvp mage wise, they are good for pve dps only, unlike other classes.
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    Curious, how long does it take to setup sab aoe? What's the basic pvp rotation (for different situations if relevant)?
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    To go 4pc sab you would have to wear far less valor than my toon does, and my sab half the time only gets a round of charges off because of rapid setup. There is no such thing as a 4pc sab threat. It's like killing a leveling 45 mob. Even so yet to see anything amazing from one and I play sab all the time without any 4 set. So either 4 set isn't amazing, or other sabs suck and I am. Honestly banking more towards the first. Skill curve isn't high enough for me to be amazing.
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